Lets Discuss Buddhism (The Most Peaceful Religion Of All)

Alright, I have been thinking about turning Buddhist for along time. However, I'm still confused on what I want to do. Anyway, lets discuss some good things about Buddhism. I like how Buddhism incorporates peace and Buddha's teachings are you have a ? inside of you. It helps you in the world is basically what he says. Anything you like to add you can add it.

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Plus I know we have several branches of Buddhism like Tibetan Buddhism, Theravada Buddhism, and Mahāyāna Buddhism.
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  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • GorillaWitAttitude
    GorillaWitAttitude Members Posts: 3,566
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.
  • GorillaWitAttitude
    GorillaWitAttitude Members Posts: 3,566
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.

    Point taken, but you will have to agree on this. Buddhism has less violence in it than Christianity or Islam. Islam of today still has violence.
  • Ajackson17
    Ajackson17 Members Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man is a violent beast. I killed wasps invading my home so like a savage I use wasp spray and killed them and flood their home with poison. I'm a monster.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.

    Point taken, but you will have to agree on this. Buddhism has less violence in it than Christianity or Islam. Islam of today still has violence.

    You're being trolled by someone who is insecure about his own religion so he feels the need to discredit everyone else's beliefs.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.

    Point taken, but you will have to agree on this. Buddhism has less violence in it than Christianity or Islam. Islam of today still has violence.

    You're being trolled by someone who is insecure about his own religion so he feels the need to discredit everyone else's beliefs.

    I am very secure in my religion i feel no need to discredit buddhism but the reality is many of it's followers have done great harm just like many christians have done great harm.
  • Melqart
    Melqart Guests, Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's nothing in their doctrine (that I know of) that facilitates any sort of violence. For that I think it merits being seen as one of the most peaceful religions.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.

    Point taken, but you will have to agree on this. Buddhism has less violence in it than Christianity or Islam. Islam of today still has violence.

    You're being trolled by someone who is insecure about his own religion so he feels the need to discredit everyone else's beliefs.

    I am very secure in my religion i feel no need to discredit buddhism but the reality is many of it's followers have done great harm just like many christians have done great harm.

    This thread was supposed to be a discussion of Buddhism as a religion, not how people who so happened to be Buddhists did some ? up ? .

    It's not equatable to Christianity. Christianity, as a religion, encourages horrible things. Buddhism doesn't.
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  • MARIO_DRO
    MARIO_DRO Members Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DONT YALL WORSHIP BUDDA, THE STATUE?

    U ARE WILL TO WORSHIP A MANMADE OBJECT?
  • indyman87
    indyman87 Members Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭✭
    Buddha says that when you are attached to a want it leads to suffering. This is so true.
  • CracceR
    CracceR Members Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    Core beliefs of Buddhism:

    Buddhism, like most of the great religions of the world, is divided into a number of DIFFERENT traditions. However, most traditions share a common set of fundamental beliefs.

    One fundamental belief of Buddhism is often referred to as reincarnation -- the concept that people are reborn after dying. In fact, most individuals go through many cycles of birth, living, death and rebirth. A practicing Buddhist differentiates between the concepts of rebirth and reincarnation. In reincarnation, the individual may recur repeatedly. In rebirth, a person does not necessarily return to Earth as the same entity ever again. He compares it to a leaf growing on a tree. When the withering leaf falls off, A NEW leaf will eventually replace it. It is similar to the old leaf, but it is not identical to the original leaf.

    After many such cycles, if a person releases their ATTACHMENT to desire and the self, they can attain Nirvana. This is a state of liberation and freedom from suffering.



    The Three Trainings or Practices:

    These three consist of:

    Sila: Virtue, good conduct, MORALITY. This is based on two fundamental principles:

    bullet The principle of equality: that all LIVING entities are equal.

    bullet The principle of reciprocity: This is the "Golden Rule" in
    Christianity -- to do onto others as you would wish them to do
    onto you. It is found in all major religions.

    Samadhi: Concentration, MEDITATION, mental development. Developing one's mind is the path to wisdom which in turn leads to personal freedom. Mental development also strengthens and controls our mind; this helps us maintain good conduct.

    Prajna: Discernment, insight, wisdom, enlightenment. This is the real heart of Buddhism. Wisdom will emerge if your mind is pure and calm.
    The first two paths listed in the Eightfold Path, described below, refer to discernment; the last three belong to concentration; the middle three are related to virtue.



    The Four Noble Truths:

    The BUDDHA'S Four Noble Truths explore human suffering. They may be described (somewhat simplistically) as:

    Dukkha: Suffering exists: (Suffering is real and almost universal. Suffering has many causes: loss, sickness, pain, failure, the impermanence of pleasure.)

    Samudaya: There is a cause for suffering. (It is the desire to have and CONTROL things. It can take many forms: craving of sensual pleasures; the desire for fame; the desire to avoid unpleasant sensations, like fear, anger or jealousy.)

    Nirodha: There is an end to suffering. (Suffering ceases with the final liberation of Nirvana (a.k.a. Nibbana). The mind experiences complete freedom, liberation and non-attachment. It lets go of any desire or craving.)

    Magga: In order to end suffering, you must FOLLOW the Eightfold Path.




    The Five Precepts:

    These are rules to live by. They are somewhat analogous to the second half of the Ten Commandments in Judaism and Christianity -- that part of the Decalogue which describes behaviors to avoid. However, they are recommendations, not commandments. Believers are expected to use their own intelligence in deciding exactly how to APPLY these rules.

    Do not ? . This is sometimes translated as "not harming" or an absence of violence.

    Do not steal. This is generally interpreted as including the avoidance of fraud and economic exploitation.

    Do not lie. This is sometimes interpreted as including name calling, gossip, etc.

    Do not misuse sex. For monks and nuns, this means any departure from complete celibacy. For the laity, adultery is forbidden, along with any sexual harassment or exploitation, including that within marriage. The BUDDHA did not discuss consensual premarital sex within a committed relationship; Thus, Buddhist traditions differ on this. Most Buddhists, probably influenced by their local cultures, condemn same-sex sexual activity regardless of the nature of the relationship between the people involved.

    Do not consume alcohol or other drugs. The main concern here is that intoxicants CLOUD the mind. Some have included as a drug other methods of divorcing ourselves from reality -- e.g. movies, television, the Internet.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    indyman87 wrote: »
    Buddha says that when you are attached to a want it leads to suffering. This is so true.

    Definitely, Buddhism believes in non attachment to this world and not being caught up on the domineering ways and greed of human nature. I respect that very much about Buddhism, which isn't a religion to me more a philosophy. If most people in the world didn't have so much greed in their hearts and the need to possess and own everything, the world would be so much more of a peaceful place.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ATL_DRO wrote: »
    DONT YALL WORSHIP BUDDA, THE STATUE?

    U ARE WILL TO WORSHIP A MANMADE OBJECT?

    I considered myself a Buddhist for awhile years ago and I still follow some Buddhist beliefs, but I never once worshipped a statue. Don't forget the Buddha was either atheist or agnostic, one reason I prefer calling Buddhism a philosophy. But some people really do worship the Buddha in statue form, I've known people like this. Every Buddhist is different but if someone wants to worship an object, no big deal. No real difference btw that and worshipping a being you can't even ? see.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    Meroe wrote: »
    There's nothing in their doctrine (that I know of) that facilitates any sort of violence. For that I think it merits being seen as one of the most peaceful religions.

    I agree completely, I've looked over Buddhist text carefully and not once does the Buddha promote horrible or violent things. One of the things that drew me over to it, despite my at times violent history lol

    The Baha'i religion is another peaceful one
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I appreciate the self discipline that Buddhism encourages. Objectivity, selflessness, and peace are all virtues this world needs more of.

    that's all you needed to say.

    both of y'all are annoying hypocrites

    Shut the ? up.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.

    Point taken, but you will have to agree on this. Buddhism has less violence in it than Christianity or Islam. Islam of today still has violence.

    You're being trolled by someone who is insecure about his own religion so he feels the need to discredit everyone else's beliefs.

    I am very secure in my religion i feel no need to discredit buddhism but the reality is many of it's followers have done great harm just like many christians have done great harm.

    This thread was supposed to be a discussion of Buddhism as a religion, not how people who so happened to be Buddhists did some ? up ? .

    It's not the equatable to Christianity. Christianity, as a religion, encourages horrible things. Buddhism doesn't.

    The "of all" in the thread title connotes that a comparison is being made
  • Muhannad
    Muhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dunno if this is a serious thread, but if it is I'd study that religion thoroughly before I would even consider converting to it.

    As for me, I'd ask myself if a coolie would ever follow a black man's religion. I think the vast majority of them would not, although I have seen some rasta coolies and doglas though. I'd rather follow an African religion, than something from that subcontinent but that's just me.
    I think Afro-Americans feel the need to latch onto other cultures because theirs have been taken away. You'd be hard pressed to see a black man from the Caribbean even contemplating to convert to something like Buddhism...
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG2kdcmZG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sK0h7Zqs3k

    do some research bhuddist don't have their hands clean either.

    Alright, maybe true, but they aren't as ? as Christianity even though I respect it.

    study history more followers of all religions have done some crazy ? people in the west have this image of buddhism that it's all peace and love and that is utter ?

    during ww2 the japanese had institutionalized buddhism and they did great war crimes.
    Don't forget how these Buddhists treat muslims in Myanmar. Met a brother from Myanmar not too long ago. He's a muslim from Myanmar. He said these Buddhists were slaughtering their people.

    Like you said, these Buddhists ain't as peaceful as some uninformed people might think.
  • Muhannad
    Muhannad Members Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ATL_DRO wrote: »
    DONT YALL WORSHIP BUDDA, THE STATUE?

    U ARE WILL TO WORSHIP A MANMADE OBJECT?
    No matter how you slice it, this sh*t is idolworshipping = devilworshipping. lol @ Bowing down to a statue. I heard in Thailand people are bowing down to their king. That's what that idolworshipping leads to.

    Muslims believe these people engaging in that will go straight to hell. I will not judge those people though, but I do feel sorry for them TBH.
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    This thread was supposed to be a discussion of Buddhism as a religion, not how people who so happened to be Buddhists did some ? up ? .

    It's not the equatable to Christianity. Christianity, as a religion, encourages horrible things. Buddhism doesn't.
    ...why are you comparing it to Christianity while complaining that people aren't talking about Buddhism?

  • Melqart
    Melqart Guests, Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    ATL_DRO wrote: »
    DONT YALL WORSHIP BUDDA, THE STATUE?

    U ARE WILL TO WORSHIP A MANMADE OBJECT?
    No matter how you slice it, this sh*t is idolworshipping = devilworshipping. lol @ Bowing down to a statue. I heard in Thailand people are bowing down to their king. That's what that idolworshipping leads to.

    Muslims believe these people engaging in that will go straight to hell. I will not judge those people though, but I do feel sorry for them TBH.

    i find this pretty hilarious. am i the only one that sees the irony in this post? so you're a muslim, who speaks as if he has superiority because buddhists happen to use statues. interesting. I could have sworn most muslims whom have the financial means, go to mecca for the purpose of bowing to a black stone? matter fact, arent you supposed to bow 4 times a day in its direction?

    how is this any different than buddhists having statues? the answer is, there really isnt. well informed people realize that in both cases they're merely physical representations of divine concepts/deities, which acts as a focal point to connect with whatever divinity. not that the object itself is ? , in either case.

    with that being said, we were discussing whether the overall doctrine supports violence, not the people themselves. mildly intelligent people realize the difference. theres probably over 30 quotes in the quran its self that tells its followers to commit violence, especially people of other faiths, which your spiritual brothers are carrying out to a T practically everywhere theyre found in the middle east. but the same cant be said for Buddhists. Like i said, a semi intelligent person can discern the difference, which is huge. since you want to act high and mighty. im not even buddhist or a follower of Abrahamic religion, but im not going to act like im better because of willful ignorance.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    This thread was supposed to be a discussion of Buddhism as a religion, not how people who so happened to be Buddhists did some ? up ? .

    It's not equatable to Christianity. Christianity, as a religion, encourages horrible things. Buddhism doesn't.
    ...why are you comparing it to Christianity while complaining that people aren't talking about Buddhism?

    Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly. My point was that Christianity and Buddhism are not equatable.

    Who complained about people not talking about Buddhism?
  • (Nope)
    (Nope) Members Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The statue most of you think is Buddha (the fat ? ) is not Buddha and Buddhists do not worship. This thread premise is flawed because Buddhism is not a religion. You can be a Buddhist Christian, Muslim, or Jew. Buddhism is about skillful means... empathy, impermanence, and right thinking.

  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    ATL_DRO wrote: »
    DONT YALL WORSHIP BUDDA, THE STATUE?

    U ARE WILL TO WORSHIP A MANMADE OBJECT?
    No matter how you slice it, this sh*t is idolworshipping = devilworshipping. lol @ Bowing down to a statue. I heard in Thailand people are bowing down to their king. That's what that idolworshipping leads to.

    Muslims believe these people engaging in that will go straight to hell. I will not judge those people though, but I do feel sorry for them TBH.

    Why should you feel sorry for Buddhists who may worship an idol? It's not hurting anybody and most Buddhists don't worship the Buddha, they praise him and hold him in high regard, as I do. As far as Muslims, the Muslim world has a lot more serious problems to worry about then Buddhists, who have a much more peaceful history compared to Muslims. All kinds of people think Muslims will go to hell too, and even more have a very low opinion of Islam, so I guess it all evens out.