Subliminals that went under the radar

its....JOHN B
its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
"Soul on ice, death threats given by clowns
I guess livin' is prison when you live around clowns"

I cant confirm it because I never listened to Soul on ice thoroughly but from what Ive heard Ras Kass took multiple shots at Nas on that album

"Son's backward flows, they say mine is very scary
Smell fear like a canine that finds buried babies
And all of y'all wear that same aroma
How to blow on your eighth LP, I'll show ya
You're wack ? , face it
In the history of the game, you have no placement
Liquor and weed just massacred their mind, or thee celebrity
Or they couldn't change with time, so now they run they mouth
But when the sun go south, them guns come out
My cavalry woulda been threw ten in your skin
Casualty you don't wanna be, don't want it with me
Straight savage"

Shortly before Streets Disciple Snoop dissed Nas in an interview saying Pac punked Nas and Nas just kept his head down, Nas was asked about it and said he didn't know where it was coming from and ? bless, saved it for the album

"I aint even gon' speak, one million the first week
aight, let's ask the streets, how many sold?
WHAT? Three ? , three months to go gold?
c'mon esse, keep it real holmes
you ? with the dog, you already know
this aint nothin new, ? is you mad at
15 million, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah
rest assured, I'm best abroad
you can test Billboard, cuz the, rest are frauds
I got 18 years under my belt, rappin
let me see, you was three, I was, makin it happen
next time we bump heads don't be hard headed
show some ? respect ? , or you'll all get it"

I always thought it was aimed at the Lox because it was around the time X started fading away from the Ruff Ryders, but it was aimed at Cypress hill still not sure why

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  • _Goldie_
    _Goldie_ Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 30,349 Regulator
    Being that the book soul on ice is a memoir by Eldridge Cleaver who was incarcerated I never understood why the ? took offense to the bar.
  • SnuffDaddy
    SnuffDaddy Members Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2015
    Damn, good thread. I never thought about the Nas vs. Ras Kass ? . Love both. That's clearly a response/slug at Ras tho, obviously. The name "Soul On Ice" of course and then the cover of him being in prison too.

    But threads like these are hard cuz we'll never get the truth - at times even from the artists.

    That Lox vs X ? been discussed for YEARS but still uncertain. Some say it was at Cypress (like you said) that he wrote earlier. But maybe it was changed as a reference to Lox but who knows.

    As for the Nas lines allegedly at Snoop - nah, i doubt it. Seems too loose. Not saying Nas havent had lines at Snoop, but if so not the ones up there.
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SnuffDaddy wrote: »
    Damn, good thread. I never thought about the Nas vs. Ras Kass ? . Love both. That's clearly a response/slug at Ras tho, obviously. The name "Soul On Ice" of course and then the cover of him being in prison too.

    But threads like these are hard cuz we'll never get the truth - at times even from the artists.

    That Lox vs X ? been discussed for YEARS but still uncertain. Some say it was at Cypress (like you said) that he wrote earlier. But maybe it was changed as a reference to Lox but who knows.

    As for the Nas lines allegedly at Snoop - nah, i doubt it. Seems too loose. Not saying Nas havent had lines at Snoop, but if so not the ones up there.

    That Snoop ? is pretty blatant, he was on his 8th album at the time and was running his mouth
  • Nah Son
    Nah Son Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2015
    And I aint animated like say Busta Rhymes
  • Billy_Poncho
    Billy_Poncho Members Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Khujo Goodie dissing DMX

    I don't care how rough you roll, we can't be shut down
    Ain't no openin up shop, we already established
    You lap ? , we boss hoggin
    Grown men, don't beg for attention
  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    Its an obvious diss now, but when I first found out "is that yo ? " was about Nas I was like..

    GIF-whoa-what-Wee-Bey-Brice-The-Wire-GIF.gif

    That ? was GOAT
  • MrCrookedLetter
    MrCrookedLetter Members Posts: 22,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Khujo Goodie dissing DMX

    I don't care how rough you roll, we can't be shut down
    Ain't no openin up shop, we already established
    You lap ? , we boss hoggin
    Grown men, don't beg for attention

    @Billy_Poncho what started this?
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Snoop Drop it like its hot

    Wayne rap on it and said

    "don't touch my ? ? "
  • soulbrother
    soulbrother Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ? ? get some nuts
    ? ? say my name
    We ain't got no time to be guessing
    And playing these ? ass games
    What they do what they do
    ? was corny as ?
    You gets no play in that Texas
    Your ? don't bump in the trunk

    ? C dissing the Roots on the song "Top Notch"..
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    Different ways to come out the hood in cuffs or a casket or crazy or shootin three pointer baskets
    or maybe it's the rap ? all type of tactics
    we use to get dough some choose kickin in doors


    Nas
  • trilladelic
    trilladelic Members Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    them niqqaz aint real, mustve started smokin' rocks
    it all fell down cuz they bitin' too much pac
    but what goes up must come down..

    - ? c "let me see it". a shot a master p?

    he had another where he said "niqqaz goin broke tryna be puff daddy". cant think of the song title tho..
  • loch121
    loch121 Members Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt Ras was dissing Nas.There's no motive.he did take darts at the east coast though on Soul On Ice.

    Nas had so many enemies that ? could be about anybody.jay,50,etc

    IDK about the others.

  • 313 wayz
    313 wayz Members Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a rebel or a renegade on a quest
    I'm a ? wit a S on his chest
    Cube "Amerikas Most Wanted"

    I always thought that was a shot at KRS line of "rebel, renegade, must stay paid" from "I'm Still #1"
  • Intelligent_Hoodlum
    Intelligent_Hoodlum Members Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    313 wayz wrote: »
    I'm not a rebel or a renegade on a quest
    I'm a ? wit a S on his chest
    Cube "Amerikas Most Wanted"

    I always thought that was a shot at KRS line of "rebel, renegade, must stay paid" from "I'm Still #1"

    Cube threw shots at him on another track when he said "some rappers are heaven sent/but self destruction don't pay the ? rent"...
  • 313 wayz
    313 wayz Members Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2015
    Militant, y'all ? ain't killin ?
    Biggie on P Diddys "Victory"

    A subliminal diss to Raekwon and Ghostface Killah, who dissed Biggie on “Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…” on the track “Shark ? (Biters).” The lines being referenced come from Ghost’s verse on “Criminology” (from the same album) which include the lines:
    “Extravagant, RZA bake the track and it’s militant
    Then I react, like a convict, and start killin ? ”
  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Soul on ice, death threats given by clowns
    I guess livin' is prison when you live around clowns"

    I cant confirm it because I never listened to Soul on ice thoroughly but from what Ive heard Ras Kass took multiple shots at Nas on that album

    "Son's backward flows, they say mine is very scary
    Smell fear like a canine that finds buried babies
    And all of y'all wear that same aroma
    How to blow on your eighth LP, I'll show ya
    You're wack ? , face it
    In the history of the game, you have no placement
    Liquor and weed just massacred their mind, or thee celebrity
    Or they couldn't change with time, so now they run they mouth
    But when the sun go south, them guns come out
    My cavalry woulda been threw ten in your skin
    Casualty you don't wanna be, don't want it with me
    Straight savage"

    Shortly before Streets Disciple Snoop dissed Nas in an interview saying Pac punked Nas and Nas just kept his head down, Nas was asked about it and said he didn't know where it was coming from and ? bless, saved it for the album

    "I aint even gon' speak, one million the first week
    aight, let's ask the streets, how many sold?
    WHAT? Three ? , three months to go gold?
    c'mon esse, keep it real holmes
    you ? with the dog, you already know
    this aint nothin new, ? is you mad at
    15 million, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah
    rest assured, I'm best abroad
    you can test Billboard, cuz the, rest are frauds
    I got 18 years under my belt, rappin
    let me see, you was three, I was, makin it happen
    next time we bump heads don't be hard headed
    show some ? respect ? , or you'll all get it"

    I always thought it was aimed at the Lox because it was around the time X started fading away from the Ruff Ryders, but it was aimed at Cypress hill still not sure why

    add on

    Yeah that dmx joint was def under the radar but bar wise them lox boys would've hurt x
  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol well know sub was nas talking about jay on success. He said that in a interview.