Why is Terry Bradshaw not the Goat ?

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The Entrepreneur
The Entrepreneur Members Posts: 689
edited February 2011 in From the Cheap Seats
Other than Montana he is the only QB with four rings

He has a MVP of the league and two super bowl MVP's

He was the number 1 pick in the draft so he didn't hop on a good team like Brady and Ben from the start

He has the clutch passes and memorable moments in the big games Immaculate reception, passes to Lynn Swann in the bowl

Beat another Hall of fame QB in Roger and also the the cowboys of the 70's were a great team and would have been a dynasty if the Steelers didn't beat them

Why is Terry not the Goat even though Montana has four he also had Jerry Rice helping
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  • rantanamo
    rantanamo Members Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    As good as they were, it wasn't really a prolific offense. Kind of a Big Ben kind of thing.
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  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Cause he had the
    Steel Curtain Defense.
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  • PanchoYoSancho
    PanchoYoSancho Members Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    In all fairness, Montana had one of the GOAT defenses too. By points - yards allowed...


    2nd - 2nd
    23rd - 21st
    4th - 10th
    1st - 10th
    2nd - 14th
    3rd - 6th
    3rd - 6th
    8th - 3rd
    3rd - 4th
    2nd - 3rd


    Bradshaw's

    16th - 14th
    17th - 18th
    2nd - 8th
    8th - 4th
    2nd - 1st
    2nd - 4th
    1st - 1st
    17th - 7th
    1st - 3rd
    5th - 2nd
    15th - 12th
    11th - 22nd
    4th - 17th
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  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    PanchoYoSancho wrote: »
    In all fairness, Montana had one of the GOAT defenses too. By points allowed...


    2nd
    23rd
    4th
    1st
    2nd
    3rd
    3rd
    8th
    3rd
    2nd


    Bradshaw's

    16th
    17th
    8th
    2nd
    2nd
    2nd
    2nd
    1st
    17th
    1st
    5th
    15th
    11th
    4th

    exactly....
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  • dbrazil412
    dbrazil412 Members Posts: 9,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    bradshaw should get more credit than he does
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  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    dbrazil412 wrote: »
    bradshaw should get more credit than he does

    bradshaw and big ben will never get respect because of the "steelers defense"
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  • PanchoYoSancho
    PanchoYoSancho Members Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Ben-? -A-? >>>>Terry Brady
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  • radaman
    radaman Members Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    PanchoYoSancho wrote: »
    Ben-? -A-? >>>>Terry Brady

    whos Terry Brady?
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  • Jay Pee
    Jay Pee Members Posts: 761 ✭
    edited January 2011
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    Bradshaw a overrated quarterback...Steeler defense a 70 quarterback rating, threw for more then 20 interceptions in his career 5 times and had a high interception percentage
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  • PanchoYoSancho
    PanchoYoSancho Members Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    radaman wrote: »
    whos Terry Brady?
    ? if know.
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  • Generic
    Generic Members Posts: 1,043 ✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    MR.CJ wrote: »
    bradshaw and big ben will never get respect because of the "steelers defense"

    sums it up. . . When people think of the steelers, it's their defense that pops in the mind first.
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  • bluprint
    bluprint Members Posts: 465
    edited January 2011
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    He only had like 50% comp too with HOF everywhere
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  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    The Entrepreneur wrote: »
    Other than Montana he is the only QB with four rings

    He has a MVP of the league and two super bowl MVP's

    He was the number 1 pick in the draft so he didn't hop on a good team like Brady and Ben from the start

    He has the clutch passes and memorable moments in the big games Immaculate reception, passes to Lynn Swann in the bowl

    Beat another Hall of fame QB in Roger and also the the cowboys of the 70's were a great team and would have been a dynasty if the Steelers didn't beat them

    Why is Terry not the Goat even though Montana has four he also had Jerry Rice helping



    kuz real talk, he just AINT. no need to look up obscure stats and wishy washy career comparisons. he just aint a better QB than everyone else.

    /thread
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    He's arguably a top 5.
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  • BlackxChild
    BlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Bradshaw threw more int than TDs and even he has stated if it werent for the SBs he wouldnt be in the HOF. The Steelers went 3-1 this year with a tough 4 games without Big Ben Byron Leftwhich actually looks like a real good QB with the Steelers and looks like Garbage everywhere else.
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  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BlackxChild wrote: »
    Bradshaw threw more int than TDs and even he has stated if it werent for the SBs he wouldnt be in the HOF. The Steelers went 3-1 this year with a tough 4 games without Big Ben Byron Leftwhich actually looks like a real good QB with the Steelers and looks like Garbage everywhere else.

    and the pats went 11-5 without brady.
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  • dbrazil412
    dbrazil412 Members Posts: 9,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    why everybody hype that 3-1 start the steelers had without ben?? the steelers are not a playoff team without big ben..
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  • Generic
    Generic Members Posts: 1,043 ✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BlackxChild wrote: »
    Bradshaw threw more int than TDs and even he has stated if it werent for the SBs he wouldnt be in the HOF. The Steelers went 3-1 this year with a tough 4 games without Big Ben Byron Leftwhich actually looks like a real good QB with the Steelers and looks like Garbage everywhere else.

    bradshaw threw 2 more td's than picks, but the nfl was a lot more diff back then than now.
    lmao @ byron looked like a real good qb. ? outta here, he didn't even play.
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  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    dbrazil412 wrote: »
    why everybody hype that 3-1 start the steelers had without ben?? the steelers are not a playoff team without big ben..

    exactly. the dude miss 4 games, not 16 games.
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  • BlackxChild
    BlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Generic wrote: »
    bradshaw threw 2 more td's than picks, but the nfl was a lot more diff back then than now.
    lmao @ byron looked like a real good qb. ? outta here, he didn't even play.

    3 yrs ago he did. Remember after he was with the Falcons throwing ? in the stands, He went to Pitt and Ben got hurt and Byron started lookin legit he even looked good in preseason this year after lookin like ? with Tampa.
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  • BlackxChild
    BlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    MR.CJ wrote: »
    exactly. the dude miss 4 games, not 16 games.

    They where against good teams and Charlie Batch aint ? .
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  • BlackxChild
    BlackxChild Members Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    MR.CJ wrote: »
    and the pats went 11-5 without brady.
    = Good teams win SB not great QBs. By the way I like Big Ben I think hes an HOF but Im going to argue why u can argue he's not bc I can see y some1 would say he aint ? bc theres evidence that points out the refs won him his 1st SB and his D makes him look better and that D had more to do with the wins than him.

    I believe QBs get to much Credit when they win
    and get ? on to much when they lose.

    I remember when Romo through for 400 yds and 3 or 4 TDS (all Dallas TDs) no int, and ? in Dallas where sayin its his fault he didnt lead them to the win.
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  • gman82
    gman82 Members Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Bradshaw isn't top 10. His defense and receivers saved him. He might be the most overrated qb of alltime
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  • silent k
    silent k Members Posts: 83
    edited January 2011
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    Defense wins championships...look at this past decade...the patriots, steelers, ravens, bucs, all had top 5 defenses...the Colts were an exception but their defense played like a top 5 D in the playoffs....QB's sell tickets...Defenses win Rings!
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  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BlackxChild wrote: »
    They where against good teams and Charlie Batch aint ? .

    again its 4 games.
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