Murder Inc. would've beat 50/Em/Dre if Royce had joined them

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soul rattler
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edited July 2011 in The Reason
"Matter fact, I might even do a song with Ray
Sign with Murder Inc. and hit you with a song a day"


Royce Da 5'9" single handedly murked all of D12 so imagine how much worse it would've been if he had gone in on G-Unit, Dre, and Busta Rhymes. Royce would be an undisputed legend right now.


And a Royce Da 5'9" and Ja Rule collaboration would have been ill.
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  • Mr. 66Hundred
    Mr. 66Hundred Members Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Battle wise Royce wouldve did his thing

    but success wise the outcome for Shady Aftermath wouldve stayed the same

    and Royce would be in an ever worse situation then he has been in over the years
  • CrownChakra
    CrownChakra Members Posts: 351
    edited January 2011
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    50 was a politician during that beef.

    Ripped on Ja for singing, everyone ate that ? up like McNuggets

    Then starts singing himself.

    ? was pathetic
  • owHOTdman
    owHOTdman Members Posts: 400
    edited January 2011
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    incorrect sir, Ja Rule didn't release garbage durring that battle. He had some decent records but that's not what tha battle was about. It was a popularity contest and ppl, for tha most part, didn't give a dam bout who had tha best diss records. They just cared about hit records and record sales. Royce da 5'9 didn't have any of that and wouldn't of brought any star power to tha table, therefor them ? still would of loss.

    cosign at that point ja rule could have droped ether part 2 and no one woulda gave a damn 50 was the man at that time
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    incorrect sir, Ja Rule didn't release garbage durring that battle. He had some decent records but that's not what tha battle was about. It was a popularity contest and ppl, for tha most part, didn't give a dam bout who had tha best diss records. They just cared about hit records and record sales. Royce da 5'9 didn't have any of that and wouldn't of brought any star power to tha table, therefor them ? still would of loss.

    Let me stop you right there so I can correct you. This thread isn't about the he said/she said, Preme, Source Magazine, restraining orders, etc extra-cirricular ? . This is about the music ONLY.

    Now I agree, Ja did put out some decent songs, but so did the Interscope Voltron crew. But if Royce had joined Murder Inc., we would be looking at history differently.
  • Mr. 66Hundred
    Mr. 66Hundred Members Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    50 was a politician during that beef.

    Ripped on Ja for singing, everyone ate that ? up like McNuggets

    Then starts singing himself.

    ? was pathetic

    strategically it was incredible
    he demonized Ja and made it hard for Ja to be successful in his own lane
    then 50 infiltrated and took over

    even got him an Ashanti to sing duets wit him (Olivia)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Legend in Two Sports Posts: 8,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    T/S quit making dumb threads ....
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BoYBe$T wrote: »
    T/S quit making dumb threads ....

    Didn't I tell you to shut the ? up?
    strategically it was incredible
    he demonized Ja and made it hard for Ja to be successful in his own lane
    then 50 infiltrated and took over

    even got him an Ashanti to sing duets wit him (Olivia)



    This ain't about success, this is about who would beat who on wax.
  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    I'll say again Ja Rule doesn't deserve all the hate directed at him
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    50 had like 2 years (02,03) of realeasing constant ja rule diss records
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Legend in Two Sports Posts: 8,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    T/S quit going to youtube and creating fictional scenarios in ya head .... its getting played .
  • CrownChakra
    CrownChakra Members Posts: 351
    edited January 2011
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    strategically it was incredible
    he demonized Ja and made it hard for Ja to be successful in his own lane
    then 50 infiltrated and took over

    even got him an Ashanti to sing duets wit him (Olivia)

    You know what......in retrospect it was.

    ? was still pathetic.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    I'll say again Ja Rule doesn't deserve all the hate directed at him

    Not at all. Looking back at 2002-04, Ja Rule was putting out timeless music that still sounds good today. I really can't say the same for 50 and Em.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    50 had like 2 years (02,03) of realeasing constant ja rule diss records

    And Ja Rule put out an entire major label distributed album against 50. No one can deny the quality of "Clap Back".
  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    At least Ja beat 50s ass in a club lol
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Oh you just talking about tha music? Music wise, tha ? was bout even IMO. Cadillac Tah was goin in on that battle. Ja had some ? 2 but just was ignored. I always thought that Hail Mary mix 50 them did was a failure w/ tha exception of Busta verse. Tha rest of 50 nem ? was, eh......So So

    Yeah, in retrospect, Hail mary is overrated... and I admit to overrating it myself back then. If they had made that diss song in 2011, people would clown them for being corny and dickriding 2Pac. Blackchild went in on 50 as well.
  • Mr. 66Hundred
    Mr. 66Hundred Members Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Lyrically Royce wouldve destroyed everybody EXCEPT Em

    but whats the point of dissin if nobody pays attention

    People wouldve been too busy dancin to In Da Club to give Royce any burn

    who honestly believes that Royce and Eminem would lyrically spar???

    I seriously believe that Em and Royce DO NOT want it with each other

    Imagine the repercussions of Royce destroyin Em in a battle or vice versa

    the only way I see Em and Royce actually gettin on wax and flamin each other is if they some how got into a physical altercation.... then all hell would break loose on wax
  • Miles HIGH
    Miles HIGH Members Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BoYBe$T wrote: »
    T/S quit making dumb threads ....

    This made me LOL.
  • blackbloc
    blackbloc Members Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Not at all. Looking back at 2002-04, Ja Rule was putting out timeless music that still sounds good today. I really can't say the same for 50 and Em.

    he put out good music not timeless , cause ja be getting zero radio play for hits these days aka not timeless
  • dade county 305
    dade county 305 Members Posts: 355
    edited January 2011
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    At least Ja beat 50s ass in a club lol

    Proof,that Ja beat 50 ass in the club?
  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Proof,that Ja beat 50 ass in the club?

    He smacked 50 with a bat and black child stab his ass lol

    thats widely known
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Lyrically Royce wouldve destroyed everybody EXCEPT Em

    but whats the point of dissin if nobody pays attention

    People wouldve been too busy dancin to In Da Club to give Royce any burn

    who honestly believes that Royce and Eminem would lyrically spar???

    I seriously believe that Em and Royce DO NOT want it with each other

    Imagine the repercussions of Royce destroyin Em in a battle or vice versa

    the only way I see Em and Royce actually gettin on wax and flamin each other is if they some how got into a physical altercation.... then all hell would break loose on wax

    This just isn't true. Royce DID want it with Em, and Em ignored the entire situation. While D12 was trying to defend Eminem, Eminem was off dissing Nsync, Moby, and Britney Spears. What type of ? is that?
  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    This just isn't true. Royce DID want it with Em, and Em ignored the entire situation. While D12 was trying to defend Eminem, Eminem was off dissing Nsync, Moby, and Britney Spears. What type of ? is that?

    ? ass ?

    He always started some ? ?
  • Mr. 66Hundred
    Mr. 66Hundred Members Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    He smacked 50 with a bat and black child stab his ass lol

    thats widely known

    Ive been followin this beef since the beginning and this is the first I heard about a bat

    I've heard about Ja, Irv and his brotha fightin 50... thats were the restraining order comes from

    and Murder Inc and G-Unit fightin in the studio.... thats how 50 got stabbed
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    blackbloc wrote: »
    he put out good music not timeless , cause ja be getting zero radio play for hits these days aka not timeless

    That Jennifer Lopez joint is timeless. That Mary J Blige joint is timeless. His songs with Ashanti are timeless. And this ? ?

    Timeless...
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    ? ass ?

    He always started some ? ?

    Exactly. I wonder why Em got a pass for that... but Kanye gets ? and take a microphone from Taylor Swift and he gets blackballed. And then Eminem chimes in and says "Oh Kanye shouldn't have done that, it was wrong"

    FOH