Why Do Religious Fanatics Think Evolution Is Contrary To Religion?

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Kushington
Kushington Members Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2011 in R & R (Religion and Race)
To me they go hand in hand, science just attempts to EXPLAIN what religion explains away blindly

This might sound shocking, but humans ARE animals, the "highest" animal, but animals nonetheless.....the only reason humans are humans is because we can adeptly walk on two feet, build ? with our hands, and higher symbolic communication, all of which are evolved from previous living things who couldnt do it or couldnt do it as well , so they arent alive anymore

None of that has anything to do with ? besides the fact that ? allowed us to get to this point, evolution doesnt contradict religion at all.

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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    Nothing is the "highest" evolved creature. We're just the best adapted to our particular environment, which is extremely social and so requires a large brain.

    And since evolution is real, this means ? did not create man or any other living thing on Earth. The ideas do contradict each other and we should admit it.

    Evolution is based on evidence and logic. Belief in ? is based on nothing but fear, wish-thinking, superstition, and tradition.
  • Kushington
    Kushington Members Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nothing is the "highest" evolved creature. We're just the best adapted to our particular environment, which is extremely social and so requires a large brain.

    And since evolution is real, this means ? did not create man or any other living thing on Earth. The ideas do contradict each other and we should admit it.

    Evolution is based on evidence and logic. Belief in ? is based on nothing but fear, wish-thinking, superstition, and tradition.

    nah something created everything

    You dont get something from nothing
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    Kushington wrote: »
    nah something created everything

    You dont get something from nothing

    Now you're changing the scope of the argument. We were talking about life evolving on Earth. Now you're bringing the entire universe into question.

    Which is fine, because it's been confirmed that something actually can come from nothing: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/02/can_you_get_something_for_noth.php
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kushington wrote: »
    nah something created everything

    You dont get something from nothing
    Who says something came from nothing? Perhaps the people that say a supernatural being created everything from nothing?
  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Members Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kushington wrote: »
    nah something created everything

    You dont get something from nothing

    When has there ever been NOTHING? Energy has ALWAYS been.
  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited February 2011
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    Because intelligent design leaders like to say Darwinism is wrong and says that chickens turn into fish. And then others were once told it stated we came from monkeys and being the obedient people they are they say oh okay well that's a stupid idea and keep it moving.
  • Kushington
    Kushington Members Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Now you're changing the scope of the argument. We were talking about life evolving on Earth. Now you're bringing the entire universe into question.

    Which is fine, because it's been confirmed that something actually can come from nothing: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/02/can_you_get_something_for_noth.php

    This is from the link you posted:

    "And if you start with enough energy, you can take all of the real matter and antimatter pairs that exist, and create more matter than antimatter, giving us a Universe where we have something, today, rather than nothing. "


    So where did the energy come from?
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    You didn't read the whole thing.

    Like I said, it's been proven that something can come from nothing. You said that was impossible, but it is not.
  • Huruma
    Huruma Members Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    Because it does. Evolution contradicts not necessarily the idea of a ? but religious claims about the origin of human beings.

    And whether or not there is a ? might not be provable/disprovable but it is a scientific question. Because scientific investigation is dependent on empirical observation, it necessarily starts with the assumption that the universe can be explained materially. Faith and reason are two different approaches to answering questions about the universe, they do conflict.
  • Kushington
    Kushington Members Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You didn't read the whole thing.

    Like I said, it's been proven that something can come from nothing. You said that was impossible, but it is not.

    That ? is crazy

    IDK what to say about that one, besides....what could cause large enough amounts of matter-antimatter pairs to draw together to create a universe.
  • Tha-Realist
    Tha-Realist Members Posts: 491
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    Kushington wrote: »
    nah something created everything

    You dont get something from nothing

    I see where you're coming from in tha origional post... but this ? here always gets me. If you look at it like "You don't get something from nothing" you're forgetting that that same rule applies to ? ... If it's so hard to believe something came from nothing how does ? (also something)coming from nothing make any sense?

    As far as evolution goes it doesn't really disprove ? .. ? could have put a select few life forms on earth which evolved and got us to tha number of species we're at today... It contradicts tha bible and other religious texts, but people are starting to realize those books are filled with lies and ? anyway.

    Nobody can prove or disprove gods existence so any time you try to prove either side it's just running in circles. Thats just my stoned thoughts on it.