why is everyone ridin rose so dmn hard???

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mistaincredible
mistaincredible Members Posts: 300 ✭
edited May 2011 in From the Cheap Seats
seriously, why do y'all dickride rose so hard, he shoots, 45 percent from the field, avg 8 assists and 4 boards...whoop di ? do.

d wade put up better numbers with less around him and didnt win an mvp. yall act like luol deng, carlos ? , kyle korver, taj gibson and joachim noah are scrubs, ? outta here, rose is a nice athletic player, he aint the mvp and he aint the second coming hop off
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  • rice n gravy
    rice n gravy Members Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    same equation with kobe stans

    people who like rose + rose haters= people who like rose defend him to an unhealthy level because of said haters
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    he is an mvp candidate..

    fact.
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  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    Well theres a lot of Bulls fans who been waiting for some notoriety since Jordan left....they sorta have their moment so they gonna go for it....its weird tho cause LeBron kinda took himself out of contention for MVP by joining with Wade and the Thunder been underachieving so Durant not getting as much love so that kinda leaves Rose by default considering his team still winning with important pieces nursing injuries....so realisitically his stats arent mind blowing but given the fact that he is the leading MVP candidate by default, that inevitably yields his overrating imo...
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  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    edited February 2011
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    he said it as if 8 assists and 4 boards aint ?
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  • 5th Letter
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    yroholla wrote: »
    Well theres a lot of Bulls fans who been waiting for some notoriety since Jordan left....they sorta have their moment so they gonna go for it....its weird tho cause LeBron kinda took himself out of contention for MVP by joining with Wade and the Thunder been underachieving so Durant not getting as much love so that kinda leaves Rose by default considering his team still winning with important pieces nursing injuries....so realisitically his stats arent mind blowing but given the fact that he is the leading MVP candidate by default inevitably yields his overrating imo...

    how are the thunder underacheiving when they are right where they should be
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  • glowy
    glowy Members Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    jamacia wrote: »
    he said it as if 8 assists and 4 boards aint ?

    Plus his currently averaging 25 pts.
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    25ppg

    8.2 ast

    4.4 reb

    but hes overrated??

    stop.
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  • motrilla
    motrilla Members Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    aren't the Bulls 2 games out of the #1 seed and they've had a major injury to deal with all season ?

    ? didn't see the way he just took over in the 4th against the Heat the other night ?
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  • G Mack
    G Mack Members Posts: 6,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    lol@the t/s not realizing he's a rose hater himself

    but seriously how times is this debate going to come up...? is starting to get really old
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  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    is there any player properly rated on these boards??!!!

    i love how a lot ofthese non athlete ? sit online pontificating on how the best players in their respective sports "suck" or are "overrated".


    lmao... he "ONLY" avg 25, 8 and 4 at the professional level. gtfoh
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
    edited February 2011
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    Rose is putting up great numbers on a good team in a year when the two best players in NBA decided to play with each other. So to fill that void of the anti-Lebron, Rose is taking that space, while it was Durant last year, and CP3 the year before.

    Like yrholla said, its by default.

    I have seen Rose only play one really great game this year, and that was the San Antonio game. Every time I see, which is pretty often but not every game its usually. 10-24 30 pts 8 assists. His moves are sick though, I give him that, and he is not shy of a big moment, though I havent seen him hit any GW's ever.
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
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    Let me say also, I think what irks, people like myself, is that we all have seen other players have years like this, but for some reason Rose's year is like some huge thing to the national media.

    He is a great player and deserves credit, I just dont think personally a 3rd year player with very good stats on the 3rd best team in his conference should be an MVP. Candidate? of course, he and his team are playing well.

    But I think the MVP should go to proven players, which I dont think Rose is, YET. Give me one more great year.
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
    edited February 2011
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    Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
    Only player in the nba averaging 25 and 8

    And wade put up numbers but his teams either sucked or were average at best.Rose squad is 2 games out the 1 seed

    I said A week ago they rose love will get backlash eventually


    Dwade in a championship season avg 27.4ppg and 7.5 apg 3rd year at 23 yrs old. add 5 rpg, 2.1 spg and 1.2 bpg. The boy was a monster.

    2nd year ECF - 27.2 6.7 apg
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
    edited February 2011
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    Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
    I also understand the hatred from heat fans 2 games where u lost and rose bust yo ass and rose is gettin all the shine the overrated heat were supposed to get



    first off, my team has robbed me of the ability to talk ? right now, but 9-24 is not bustin ass.
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    mistaincredible wrote: »
    seriously, why do y'all dickride rose so hard, he shoots, 45 percent from the field, avg 8 assists and 4 boards...whoop di ? do.

    d wade put up better numbers with less around him and didnt win an mvp. yall act like luol deng, carlos ? , kyle korver, taj gibson and joachim noah are scrubs, ? outta here, rose is a nice athletic player, he aint the mvp and he aint the second coming hop off

    LMAO @ this ? . For one thing 8 assists is not bad at all especially when you lead the league in scoring amongst point guards. For two, yea you're right wade has sooooo much less around him playing with a top 5 player in the league who can take the attention off him every single damn game. You also failed to mention that ? /noah haven't even been healthy the majority of the year and they're still one game out of first place. Not to mention the fact that rose is in his THIRD year and hes playing the most important position in the nba. On top of that he has a great attitude, he's selfless, and he's not a "pay attention to me" player in a league of ? who are all about that. But your right though, I don't see why everyones riding him so hard either...
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited February 2011
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    Let me say also, I think what irks, people like myself, is that we all have seen other players have years like this, but for some reason Rose's year is like some huge thing to the national media.

    He is a great player and deserves credit, I just dont think personally a 3rd year player with very good stats on the 3rd best team in his conference should be an MVP. Candidate? of course, he and his team are playing well.

    But I think the MVP should go to proven players, which I dont think Rose is, YET. Give me one more great year.

    just out of curiosity what else must rose do to be proven in your eyes?
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    Dwade in a championship season avg 27.4ppg and 7.5 apg 3rd year at 23 yrs old. add 5 rpg, 2.1 spg and 1.2 bpg. The boy was a monster.

    2nd year ECF - 27.2 6.7 apg

    lets compare rose to one of the greatest players in the history of our league to discredit him. Wow, convincing ? argument....
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  • Chi-Town Bully
    Chi-Town Bully Members Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    You almost worse than Mumo X with the Rose hate
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  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    Let me say also, I think what irks, people like myself, is that we all have seen other players have years like this, but for some reason Rose's year is like some huge thing to the national media.

    He is a great player and deserves credit, I just dont think personally a 3rd year player with very good stats on the 3rd best team in his conference should be an MVP. Candidate? of course, he and his team are playing well.

    But I think the MVP should go to proven players, which I dont think Rose is, YET. Give me one more great year.

    MVP not a lifetime achievement award. its the most valuable player for THAT YEAR. nobody has been more valuable to their team's success as Derrick Rose
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    b*braze wrote: »
    MVP not a lifetime achievement award. its the most valuable player for THAT YEAR. nobody has been more valuable to their team's success as Derrick Rose

    close thread.....
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
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    jamacia wrote: »
    just out of curiosity what else must rose do to be proven in your eyes?

    ohhh maybe win a playoff series, or two. Another great year. He is an elite talent but I cant put him in elite category yet, especially considering Paul and Durant had the same years in 08 and 09.
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 wrote: »
    lets compare rose to one of the greatest players in the history of our league to discredit him. Wow, convincing ? argument....

    no it was to say Wade had great year for a winning team, I think it was said Wade had great numbers but his teams sucked.
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  • jrod44
    jrod44 Members Posts: 3,446
    edited February 2011
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    2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland
    2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland
    2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
    2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas
    2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota
    2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia
    1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 Karl Malone Utah
    1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1996-97 Karl Malone Utah
    1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio
    1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston
    1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix
    1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1988-89 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1986-87 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1985-86 Larry Bird Boston
    1984-85 Larry Bird Boston
    1983-84 Larry Bird Boston
    1982-83 Moses Malone Philadelphia
    1981-82 Moses Malone Houston
    1980-81 Julius Erving Philadelphia

    Umm you were saying? Look at that list, and tell me how many 3rd year players with pretty good stats, and pretty good teams won an MVP? Cmon man Truth is Rose would be worst winner ever, possibly surpassing Nash.
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland
    2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland
    2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
    2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas
    2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota
    2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia
    1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 Karl Malone Utah
    1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1996-97 Karl Malone Utah
    1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio
    1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston
    1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix
    1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1988-89 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1986-87 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1985-86 Larry Bird Boston
    1984-85 Larry Bird Boston
    1983-84 Larry Bird Boston
    1982-83 Moses Malone Philadelphia
    1981-82 Moses Malone Houston
    1980-81 Julius Erving Philadelphia

    Umm you were saying? Look at that list, and tell me how many 3rd year players with pretty good stats, and pretty good teams won an MVP? Cmon man Truth is Rose would be worst winner ever, possibly surpassing Nash.

    pretty good??? He leads the league in scoring amongst players @ his position and is top 10 in assists. On top of that his team is one game out of 1st place when 2 of the best players on his team have been out the majority of the year. Thats pretty good? Most VALUABLE PLAYER, not best stats ever
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  • 5th Letter
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    ohhh maybe win a playoff series, or two. Another great year. He is an elite talent but I cant put him in elite category yet, especially considering Paul and Durant had the same years in 08 and 09.

    oh okay i disagree with you though
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  • Chi-Town Bully
    Chi-Town Bully Members Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jrod44 wrote: »
    2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland
    2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland
    2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
    2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas
    2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix
    2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota
    2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio
    2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia
    1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 Karl Malone Utah
    1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1996-97 Karl Malone Utah
    1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio
    1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston
    1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix
    1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1988-89 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago
    1986-87 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
    1985-86 Larry Bird Boston
    1984-85 Larry Bird Boston
    1983-84 Larry Bird Boston
    1982-83 Moses Malone Philadelphia
    1981-82 Moses Malone Houston
    1980-81 Julius Erving Philadelphia

    Umm you were saying? Look at that list, and tell me how many 3rd year players with pretty good stats, and pretty good teams won an MVP? Cmon man Truth is Rose would be worst winner ever, possibly surpassing Nash.

    What does it matter how many years a person is in the league for, there is no other player outshining him this year
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