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  • toktaylor
    toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Of course.......Americans never do anything for humanitarian reasons & when they do it's only for OIL....why did this President run his campaign on false pretences then? IE he's gonna be transparent and transform this nation. How come these troubled countries in the ME/N Africa won't just cut us off & start taking care of thier own people and give them the freedom they deserve and want....why? Why do these countries think we sacrifice our own soldiers & we shouldn't expect something in return 4 our efforts? All these tribes fighting one another for power & Americans get caught in the middle every time.

    History has shown that 9 times out of 10 the instigators of these troubles are usually factions of the CIA and other American intelligent Agencies...this has happened even in poor caribbean countries like Haiti and Jamaica.
  • And Step
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    heyslick wrote: »
    If America is the evil satan as so many claim?.....why do so many countries want our help? We helped Japan after WW11 AND THEY prospered and became the power they are now. We've helped so many nations (S Korea) and they prosper.....Yet every single time we go into the ME/N Africa......those people turn on us.

    The astounding ignorance of above viewpoint leaves me with absolute certainty that Americans are the absolute most gullible people on the face of the earth.

    This guy believes everything he is told in textbooks. He believes in Santa Claus, He believes in the Easter Bunny, he believes in Reaganomics, he believes in the purity of the white women in the face of aggressive ? ? , he believes in the originality of Pat Boone, he believes Clint Eastwood is tough, and that Sly Stone is Rambo and can knock ? out.

    Sad......Damning..............Sobering..................................But true..............
  • And Step
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    If your mad at Obama, but your not mad at Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan you are either Grade A ignorant or a hypocrite.
  • And Step
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Obama Bows To Arab King But Not The UK Queen.......AND Bush was another kiss ass hand holding President. They have no respect for our so-called leaders....they know they got us over the barrel......? THEM OPECKERS!

    They are human beings like your supposed to be John Wayne.

    I know you think that just because people don't have pale skin, thin lips, and flat ? and they live on another designated territory not dubbed America, that they are not worthy of respect, but try coming into civilized society and realize that the world and it's people are going to be around long after the frozen tundra covers you and your peoples rotting carcasses in the the soon to be sterile, non producing graveyard called Europe.

    You and yours are collectively very psychopathic.
  • toktaylor
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    heyslick wrote: »
    If America is the evil satan as so many claim?.....why do so many countries want our help? We helped Japan after WW11 AND THEY prospered and became the power they are now. We've helped so many nations (S Korea) and they prosper.....Yet every single time we go into the ME/N Africa......those people turn on us.

    Because America is the evil and rich satan...BTW this has nothing to do with the citizens or even the government of America I am talking about the 'real' people in control..."the sshadow government" (double 's' is intentional)
  • toktaylor
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    And Step wrote: »
    The astounding ignorance of above viewpoint leaves me with absolute certainty that Americans are the absolute most gullible people on the face of the earth.

    This guy believes everything he is told in textbooks. He believes in Santa Claus, He believes in the Easter Bunny, he believes in Reaganomics, he believes in the purity of the white women in the face of aggressive ? ? , he believes in the originality of Pat Boone, he believes Clint Eastwood is tough, and that Sly Stone is Rambo and can knock ? out.

    Sad......Damning..............Sobering..................................But true..............

    lol...true dat
  • Knives Amilli
    Knives Amilli Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    regardless of the U.S.'s true intentions.....

    If your against the Libyan intervention, you haven't done your homework on how important the current uprisings in the Middle East are.
  • And Step
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Wow! talk about hypocrisy....you actually think them Arabs and their culture has respect for people....LMAO just look at the culture of the ME in general....yeah they really got respect for thier women....yeah tell me about it.....them Arabs really respect women? as long as they know there place. I don't live in Europe....thank ? .

    The Arabs have more respect for their woman than you have for yours. There are more women ? , battered and bruised in the US than in any other civilized nation. You have a whole industry built off of abused women. Talk about hypocritical.

    I have been to Africa, Far East, and all over the Middle East. The respect for their woman is light years ahead of yours. You praise your women like queens but treat them like ? . Abortions, prostitutes, baby mamas, porn stars. Yeah you respect your women, lol. You have no respect for your woman past how physically attractive she is. Typical white boy, who knows nothing and worse doesn't want to learn anything about anybody else. Thinks the universe revolves around his little wee wee. The same ? that will decry polygamy, but have 5 secret girlfriends on the side.

    You don't know what civilized behavior is, because you grew up here your whole life, you savage. Trust me, the rural villages in Africa and Asia have a higher moral standard than you.
  • And Step
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Try telling these women, you hypocrite.....or like those in Iran that protest and get shot by their own government in the street like dogs.
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1567155,00.html


    Arab countries collectively have one of the highest rates of female illiteracy in the world. Lack of education and gender discrimination combine to keep the percentage of employed Arab women at only one-third, the lowest in the world. These conditions contribute to unhealthy lifestyles, resulting in higher rates of disease and deaths linked to pregnancy and childbirth.

    No. 1 - 60 percent of Iran's civil workforce is female. No. 2 - They are not Arabs, you dumb ? . No.3 - They are building universities at a faster rate than any country in the world. No.4 - They have a higher birthrate than Euro's.

    Now the Arabs, some do have a problem with educating the female. Not all, some. But we are talking about respect of women, not perceived education level. I have seen them treat their women and daughters with way more respect and care than what is shown in the US. Your idea of education is western values which degenerate most civilizations it comes in contact with.

    And for the record hypocrite, black people got shot down like dogs in the street for protesting. Whole towns like Tulsa were bombed by US planes. So you might want to fall back and quit freebasing the geritol.
  • janklow
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    Hyde Parke wrote: »
    The other ongoing rant is about money. I seen Donald Trump on CNN tonight. He seems to think since we get no oil from Libya,we should not be there, it has no effects on us, and that we are fighting for China, not once did he acknowledge the slaughtering of innocent civilians. I was surprised by the ignorance of his comments-
    stop right there: why are you surprised that Donald Trump is staying stupid ? ?
    reaperbong wrote: »
    those missiles and bombs are already paid for. the salaries for them pilots and the fuel and all that ? is already bought. it's not like if we didn't use the munitions and fuel we'd go redeem them for cash to give out to poor people as a tax break.
    the salary part? true. but it's also not like once you shoot the missiles and burn the fuel the military's NOT going to seek to re-stock them.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Of course.......Americans never do anything for humanitarian reasons & when they do it's only for OIL....why did this President run his campaign on false pretences then? IE he's gonna be transparent and transform this nation. How come these troubled countries in the ME/N Africa won't just cut us off & start taking care of thier own people and give them the freedom they deserve and want....why? Why do these countries think we sacrifice our own soldiers & we shouldn't expect something in return 4 our efforts? All these tribes fighting one another for power & Americans get caught in the middle every time.

    Impressive post slick. Obama has a 42% approval rating now and deserves it because he's letting oil hungry corporations dictate his foreign policy. Obama has turned into a bigger failure for change everyday. It's hilarious how the same people who used to ? and moan about Bush now support Obama CONTINUING Bush's horrible foreign policy. His domestic policy is all about following Bush's lead, like the good little lapdog he is.

    Obama supports Bush's tax cuts for the rich, despite it bankrupting the country further. Benefits and jobs are being cut, and yet we have ANOTHER Middle Eastern nation to babysit. The same Middle Eastern nation that will turn on us, just like most of the Middle East has turned against us because of our blind support for Israel and us supporting dictatorships, ALL OVER the Middle East.

    Obama, what the ? happened to you man? What happened to the change you promised? All Obama has done is repeat almost to the T Bush's policies. Shame on anyone who now supports Bush's policies, all because Obama has no ? or no common sense.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/president-obamas-approval-rating-hits-a-new-low#mwpphu-container

    After a brief resurgence earlier this year, President Obama's poll numbers are back in the dumps. A new Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday finds Obama's approval rating at the lowest point in his presidency, thanks in part to voter angst over the economy and his handling of the situation in Libya.

    Just 42 percent of those polled approve of the job Obama is doing, compared to 48 percent who disapprove, according to Quinnipiac. And in a bad sign for his upcoming 2012 re-election campaign, 50 percent of those polled say he doesn't deserve another term in the White House.

    In January, Obama's approval rating was at 48 percent—the highest number it had been in more than a year, though still dramatically lower than his 59 percent approval rating recorded in June 2009.

    What's to blame for the president's slump? For one thing, 60 percent of voters disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy, while just 34 percent approve--the lowest number of his presidency.

    Meanwhile, Obama appears to have taken a hit over Libya. According to Quinnipiac, just 41 percent approve of Obama's handling of foreign policy—a new low. Asked specifically about Libya, 45 percent disapprove, even as voters are virtually split on whether intervening in the crisis was a good idea.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hyde Parke wrote: »
    okay. here is my honest and humble opinion. I may be one of the rare few that is not mad at Obama.

    People seem to be mad at Obama because he, a- isnt doing what they want him to do, or what he said he would do. b- isnt doing it fast enough. or c- both.

    Im also noticing that people are not thinking or reasoning why things are the way they are. We are now that people of instant results, instant gratification, and watching to much CSI where the case is solved in one hour.

    "Bring our troops home now." is one of the many current themes. And that was one of Obama's promises. But as he soon
    found out, and that many others still have not, is it is not that simple. Everyday there are plots made, and plots foiled to
    attack our country by terrorists. So yeah, lets hurry and get the troops home, they will feel so much better being bombed and attacked on their own soil .

    The other ongoing rant is about money. I seen Donald Trump on CNN tonight. He seems to think since we get no oil from Libya,we should not be there, it has no effects on us, and that we are fighting for China, not once did he acknowledge the slaughtering of innocent civilians.
    I was surprised by the ignorance of his comments. Even if we dont get our fuel from Libya, every action has a reaction. We
    are globally connected, what affects China, can and will affect us, just look pick up damn near any item laying around, and turn it over. Its made in China.

    Calling Obama "Bush" really? Bush was a trigger man, he pulled the trigger and talked, not asked questions later. I dont
    see Obama doing this, its quite the opposite. He is methodical and thinks things through without making hasty decisions. This
    is why it seems alot have people have grown impatient with him.

    Impeach him? lol, really? On what grounds?

    Replace him? With who? The next candidate who decorates a nice shiny portrait for you?

    Considering the mess he inherited, alot have seemed to forget, he isnt doing a bad job. I think we are starting to take our Democracy for granted, if gone unchecked, things will get out of control.

    LMAO........are you ? kidding me??

    Obama is CONTINUING Bush's policies, where is the change????

    The Middle East hates us with a passion because we support dictatorships all over the Arab world, and we still give Israel blind support, despite the many settlements they are building on occupied land, along with the fact Israel is stealing land from Arabs everyday. Obama vetoed a UN resolution condemning Israel for its illegal settlement building, how do you think the average person in the Middle East feels about that? You think that's gonna decrease terrorism, or increase it?

    Obama is Bush's third term, and that's the main reason most people dislike Obama these days. Obama has been a dismal failure, we might as well let Donald Trump be president. Both make stupid decisions all the time, might as well.

    Oh and by the way, why are we still in Iraq? Bush never left.
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
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    Obama is CONTINUING Bush's policies, where is the change?
    in fairness to Obama, Bush wasn't man enough to blow up ? in Libya
  • aijalon
    aijalon Members Posts: 919
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    Impressive post slick. Obama has a 42% approval rating now and deserves it because he's letting oil hungry corporations dictate his foreign policy. Obama has turned into a bigger failure for change everyday. It's hilarious how the same people who used to ? and moan about Bush now support Obama CONTINUING Bush's horrible foreign policy. His domestic policy is all about following Bush's lead, like the good little lapdog he is.

    Obama supports Bush's tax cuts for the rich, despite it bankrupting the country further. Benefits and jobs are being cut, and yet we have ANOTHER Middle Eastern nation to babysit. The same Middle Eastern nation that will turn on us, just like most of the Middle East has turned against us because of our blind support for Israel and us supporting dictatorships, ALL OVER the Middle East.

    Obama, what the ? happened to you man? What happened to the change you promised? All Obama has done is repeat almost to the T Bush's policies. Shame on anyone who now supports Bush's policies, all because Obama has no ? or no common sense.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/president-obamas-approval-rating-hits-a-new-low#mwpphu-container

    After a brief resurgence earlier this year, President Obama's poll numbers are back in the dumps. A new Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday finds Obama's approval rating at the lowest point in his presidency, thanks in part to voter angst over the economy and his handling of the situation in Libya.

    Just 42 percent of those polled approve of the job Obama is doing, compared to 48 percent who disapprove, according to Quinnipiac. And in a bad sign for his upcoming 2012 re-election campaign, 50 percent of those polled say he doesn't deserve another term in the White House.

    In January, Obama's approval rating was at 48 percent—the highest number it had been in more than a year, though still dramatically lower than his 59 percent approval rating recorded in June 2009.

    What's to blame for the president's slump? For one thing, 60 percent of voters disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy, while just 34 percent approve--the lowest number of his presidency.

    Meanwhile, Obama appears to have taken a hit over Libya. According to Quinnipiac, just 41 percent approve of Obama's handling of foreign policy—a new low. Asked specifically about Libya, 45 percent disapprove, even as voters are virtually split on whether intervening in the crisis was a good idea.


    Very profound.
    It would appear that the platform which he used to ascend to power has evaporated into thin air.
    Obama apologists had no clue who he was before he became president and cannot comprehensively explain what his policies are now.
    I give George Bush for being somewhat consistent with his ideals whereas Obama seems to sway as the breeze goes. Always seeking to maintain his popularity even as it plummets.
  • think
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    There's a lot of smart posters in here. What do you guys think will happen to the economy? Are we headed towards martial law? Or will the economy recover anytime soon?
  • kingblaze84
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    janklow wrote: »
    in fairness to Obama, Bush wasn't man enough to blow up ? in Libya

    Obama's slick enough to get NATO and the United Nations to cover for him. Bush never had the charm Obama had, Obama is taking advantage of that.

    With that being said, Bush has been VERRRRRY QUIET during Obama's presidency so far. He loves Obama's policies too much to criticize him. Bush has become Obama's spiritual guide, in the words of Louis Farrakhan, he's trying to out bush Bush.
  • kingblaze84
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    think wrote: »
    There's a lot of smart posters in here. What do you guys think will happen to the economy? Are we headed towards martial law? Or will the economy recover anytime soon?

    The economy is not looking too good for the future. Most of the new jobs being created these days are in the low paying service industry, where salaries run on avg of about 15 K per year. That's something you expect in China or Russia, but the USA is moving in that direction already. The rich are paying their workers less and less, and young people are going to become more and more desperate to make extra money. The economy is improving BARELY, but the real unemployment rate is around 15%, likely higher. Only 64% of Americans are participating in the legal workforce, so do the math. The only reason the unemployment rate is "8.9%" is because millions of people gave up looking for work. Who knows what they're doing, either going back to school or selling ? like so many people I know.

    As far as martial law in the USA, nah I don't see that happening. Americans have vicious tempers, and although we put up with a lot, that's one thing that will never be accepted here.

    America's future under Democrats or Republicans ain't gonna be pretty though. It's no wonder 70% of Americans believe things are going in the wrong direction. I worry deeply for America's future.
  • kingblaze84
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    heyslick wrote: »
    Maybe these little fellas are crying for reasons you'll never understand?


    Inflation, here we come!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks for bankrupting our future Democrats and Republicans. It's gonna be real fun paying higher for food and rent. That's just what we needed.
  • janklow
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    Obama's slick enough to get NATO and the United Nations to cover for him. Bush never had the charm Obama had-
    except for the whole NATO/UN signing off on Afghanistan thing, right?
    With that being said, Bush has been VERRRRRY QUIET during Obama's presidency so far. He loves Obama's policies too much to criticize him.
    okay, in fairness to Bush, he DID declare this policy of "not commenting on Obama's presidency" prior to Obama stealing his policies
    The economy is not looking too good for the future. Most of the new jobs being created these days are in the low paying service industry, where salaries run on avg of about 15 K per year. That's something you expect in China or Russia, but the USA is moving in that direction already.
    wouldn't you expect low-paying jobs NOT in the service industry out of China/Russia?
  • tupacfan35
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    LMAO........are you ? kidding me??

    Obama is CONTINUING Bush's policies, where is the change????

    The Middle East hates us with a passion because we support dictatorships all over the Arab world, and we still give Israel blind support, despite the many settlements they are building on occupied land, along with the fact Israel is stealing land from Arabs everyday. Obama vetoed a UN resolution condemning Israel for its illegal settlement building, how do you think the average person in the Middle East feels about that? You think that's gonna decrease terrorism, or increase it?

    Obama is Bush's third term, and that's the main reason most people dislike Obama these days. Obama has been a dismal failure, we might as well let Donald Trump be president. Both make stupid decisions all the time, might as well.

    Oh and by the way, why are we still in Iraq? Bush never left.

    Plus, Mr. Nobama aka obama is an illegal president.
  • kingblaze84
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    Allergens wrote: »
    I wonder if Obama is what he said he was but once he got in Office he found out all that ? he was about b4 is ? ....and he's stuck with what he wanted but he is so optimistic he thinks with more time he can slowly turn the ship....America is like the Titanic not a small boat....dem rich (white) folks will sink america b4 they let some idealistic black man make it more of a equal place....he is playing the hand he was dealt and yall ? quick to jump ship....?

    Obama has many people in Congress that want to end the war in Afghanistan, and many people who want us out of Iraq sooner. Many didn't want his ? to get into Libya, but he did it anyway. Obama is the only one whose ? . He's too ? to stand up against his own generals, what kind of commander in chief is he?

    Obama is a ? . Straight up, and I know he is because I'm comparing him to men like MLK Jr and Malcolm X, men who weren't afraid to speak up for truth. If there are people who are stopping his agenda, he needs to call them out. Otherwise, he needs to stop pretending to be a leader and admit what he is: a puppet for the corporations that he's a slave to.

    Obama should not have campaigned on hope and CHANGE if he knew he wouldn't have the ? to be a leader. Only someone whose a ? in real life can't understand that.
  • goldenja
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    why are people mad at Obama?

    people dont even know why they mad at him
  • ShencotheMC
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    Allergens wrote: »
    two men who got killed for their ambitions...see theres a reality in your mind and than there is reality...those two worked so hard on our behalf that a black man can be POTUS and when things dont go as planned...he a ? ? ....when black people where getting their ass kicked,sprayed,and beat and MLK said stand down we will not retaliate with violence...would you have been that cat that said He a ? ? ...when Malcolm came back from his trip and said he was wrong the white man is not the devil we need to work together to over come...would you have been that cat that said he a ? ? ...now we got a black POTUS that saw people about to be slaughtered on his watch on a very large scale and he stepped in and said NO!...and you dont like that..so you call him a ? ? ...cause he cant get ? to stop worrying about themselves and vote for a better more equal health plan cause the whites in their district dont like that so he passes a bill but its weak b/c his hand was forced..you call him a ? ? ....when he makes college loans more affordable for young black people who cant get grants or scholarships but he wasnt able to make it free...you call him a ? ? ...when he said insurance companies cant discriminate due to preexisting conditions so that young child who was born with sickle cell can have insurance but he still has to pay...you call him a ? ? ...when he thought he could just pull our troops out of war but saw the projections of how bad it will get..im sure info we will never know and he stuck with the wars not by choice but by necessity...you call him a ? ? ...? just cause ? aint complete flip from one end to another in 1 term dont mean he some sellout..this aint football..he aint Bill Parcells...he aint a ? ? ....when everybody around you is a ? and you a ? ...people who look from a far assume you's a ? ?

    Pretty much. Bunch of arm chair politicians in here who think they can just run up in D.C. slappin folks like Bernie Mac on Head of State and get ? changed
  • Darius
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    people are always mad at the president. no matter what. as much as he led some people to believe, he's no different from the rest
  • tru_m.a.c
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    Allergens wrote: »
    two men who got killed for their ambitions...see theres a reality in your mind and than there is reality...those two worked so hard on our behalf that a black man can be POTUS and when things dont go as planned...he a ? ? ....when black people where getting their ass kicked,sprayed,and beat and MLK said stand down we will not retaliate with violence...would you have been that cat that said He a ? ? ...when Malcolm came back from his trip and said he was wrong the white man is not the devil we need to work together to over come...would you have been that cat that said he a ? ? ...now we got a black POTUS that saw people about to be slaughtered on his watch on a very large scale and he stepped in and said NO!...and you dont like that..so you call him a ? ? ...cause he cant get ? to stop worrying about themselves and vote for a better more equal health plan cause the whites in their district dont like that so he passes a bill but its weak b/c his hand was forced..you call him a ? ? ....when he makes college loans more affordable for young black people who cant get grants or scholarships but he wasnt able to make it free...you call him a ? ? ...when he said insurance companies cant discriminate due to preexisting conditions so that young child who was born with sickle cell can have insurance but he still has to pay...you call him a ? ? ...when he thought he could just pull our troops out of war but saw the projections of how bad it will get..im sure info we will never know and he stuck with the wars not by choice but by necessity...you call him a ? ? ...? just cause ? aint complete flip from one end to another in 1 term dont mean he some sellout..this aint football..he aint Bill Parcells...he aint a ? ? ....when everybody around you is a ? and you a ? ...people who look from a far assume you's a ? ?

    All great points. But when you campaign on "change you can believe in" and don't actually deliver on fundamental changes....well then voters get upset.

    Put it this way, every democratic candidate campaigns as if they are the second coming of FDR. Democrats and independents with a democratic slant WANT an FDR. I want my president coming through and back handing politicians. The republicans got their fearless military cowboy. Why can't Democrats get our fearless leader?

    Why can't I get a leader who forcibly regulates the banks after they put my economy in a submission?

    Why can't I get a leader who says, "Yo real talk you threaten my country by saying you're gonna relocate jobs or leave the country all together, it's fuckn over for you. And I got America with me."

    Why can't I get a leader who puts politicians on record about their international agenda? "Yo Congress, emergency session, we bout to run through every dictator right now and state our official 4 yr American international military stance."

    Why can't I get a leader who explicitly states YOU CANNOT FUCKN REDUCE SPENDING DURING A RECESSION YOU FUCKN MORONS.

    If you're gonna campaign on change, then you should be rhetorically and logically crapping on every dumb idea you hear. Where's that political G that turned the Republican party to pudding. Did we all forget how ppl were forecasting the Republican party as the new Whig party after the election? They were facing extinction and democrats as a whole let them right back in. Damn shame.