US Goverment Insider Exposes 9'11 & Bin Laden Death Story

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LONDON!
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he's name is steve pieczenik, who used to be deputy assistant secretary of state and worked under ford, carter, bush snr, clinton & bush jr and still works for the US goverment. he specialises in psyops and regime change and proud of his ? , he's not your typical so called conspiracy theorist or a leftie, rip to the 9'11 victims and ? the system

from www.prisonplanet.com

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to ? him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to ? Bin Laden live on a television screen.
“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.
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Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.
During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming ? Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.
“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.
Watch the full interview with Dr. Pieczenik below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMlL3ANprI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSpWaN7CEo&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36tfTsS7To&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dxhpsFrQc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KjH49jm0vE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxl9YSm57RY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d679JVfRcOM&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynVu5HXjUKI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQglhA4FK8I&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOk2bXNy1E&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkOPbI6XYYQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egemc9c9w5A&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zTuO1sA3sg&feature=player_embedded

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.
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  • wang_lung_wei
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  • Jabu_Rule
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    lol at steve pieczenik (peacenik). You lost at the name bro. I don't believe you, you need more people.
  •   Colin$mackabi$h
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    but even if that was true why lie about the date of osama's death to the public? what is to gain from that?
  • LONDON!
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    ice_cold wrote: »
    but even if that was true why lie about the date of osama's death to the public? what is to gain from that?

    electioneering and and a excuse for more imperialist foreign policy's and draconian police state laws locally
  • Jonas.dini
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    Has alex jones ever not believed in a conspiracy?

    Like does he ever open the newspaper in the morning and be like "wow, US got bin laden, how about that"

    Also I wonder if he turns local news into conspiracies, like what does alex jones think when he hears about a school board meeting? Devil worship? False flag?
  • Bully_Pulpit
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    Alex Jones & the prison planet affiliates have substantial ties to the CNP & John Birch society. They are under the NWO umbrella. Alex Jones is a ? gatekeeper, he tells half truths and tries to keep you from exploring other aspects of the ? . Their only goal is to start armed conflict if you listen to his shows you'd know that.
  • Bully_Pulpit
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    yeah and they'd love that ? to pop off, it would really speed up the agenda in the usa(uniformed sheep of america)
  • Bully_Pulpit
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    They could implement that police state theyve been clamoring to introduce
  • [Deleted User]
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  • playmaker88
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    Totally Credible..

    I bet he doubts that.. what you see every night is the moon.. insteads its actually the deathstar 2.0
  • samkaveli
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    I love how ppl don't believe this guy but will believe a racist lieing US government without any proof what so ever SMH.
  • Jonas.dini
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    samkaveli wrote: »
    I love how ppl don't believe this guy but will believe a racist lieing US government without any proof what so ever SMH.

    I don't understand why people believe in outer space b, it's like I've never been there so how do I know it even exists? Nameen
  • samkaveli
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    Jonas.dini wrote: »
    I don't understand why people believe in outer space b, it's like I've never been there so how do I know it even exists? Nameen
    Well I did ? a Big Foot yesterday I toke pictures but I want release them but trust me he's dead I have his DNA.
  • Jonas.dini
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    samkaveli wrote: »
    Well I did ? a Big Foot yesterday I toke pictures but I want release them but trust me he's dead I have his DNA.

    Oh of course, I believe in bigfoot b
  • samkaveli
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    Jonas.dini wrote: »
    Oh of course, I believe in bigfoot b
    Yes Yes think you for believing me without question you truly are a great American.
  • shootemwon
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    Samkavelli is bitter.

    You sam, your boy Trump ain't gonna be president but you can still watch him on celebrity apprentice. Get over it.
  • Jonas.dini
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    Samkavelli is bitter.

    You sam, your boy Trump ain't gonna be president but you can still watch him on celebrity apprentice. Get over it.

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  • gns
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    meh....whether it's true or not people would rather be lied to, than know what america really does to keep its status.

    if his credentials are real though i'm disappointed he hasn't been offed as yet but shakir stewart couldn't get a run?
  • judahxulu
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    Alex Jones & the prison planet affiliates have substantial ties to the CNP & John Bertz society. They are under the NWO umbrella. Alex Jones is a ? gatekeeper, he tells half truths and tries to keep you from exploring other aspects of the ? . Their only goal is to start armed conflict if you listen to his shows you'd know that.

    yea..i think its viable that lodi dodi been dead, i agree that alex jones aint ? .
  • samkaveli
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    Samkavelli is bitter.

    You sam, your boy Trump ain't gonna be president but you can still watch him on celebrity apprentice. Get over it.
    Bitter? what the ? are you talking about son? I just don't believe Ben Laden is dead without proof, and who gives a ? about Trump. I'm just using the governments logic in that post and since that's the case you should believe me without question since you have no problem with the Government doing the same.
  • janklow
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    so Bush has Osama's corpse to roll out at a politically expedient time ... but then he doesn't do it and hands the corpse over to Obama? yeah, that makes sense
    if this is the guy that co-created books with Tom Clancy then i think i am dismissing him on those grounds
  • deeroc22
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    So this guy should be killed soon right? I mean bhutto got offed for the same thing right? Sooo i guess we wait and see? oh.............and where is his proof?????
  • BelovedAfeni
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    i mean even if we knew it was an inside job.
    what would we do, what could we do.
  • LONDON!
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    more evidence exposing that sham official fugazi 9'11 & bin laden assassination fairy tale story from www.globalresearch.ca


    Is the US Driving the World Towards World War III: Osama's Alleged Compound. How Many SEALs Died?

    by Paul Craig Roberts






    Global Research, May 21, 2011

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    In a sensational and explosive TV report, the Pakistani News Agency has provided a live interview with an eye witness to the US attack on the alleged compound of Osama bin Laden. The eye witness, Mohammad Bashir, describes the event as it unfolded. Of the three helicopters, “there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them up, but as he [the helicopter] was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.” The witness says that there were no survivors, just dead bodies and pieces of bodies everywhere. “We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing.”

    I always wondered how a helicopter could crash, as the White House reported, without at least producing injuries. Yet, in the original White House story, the SEALs not only survived a 40-minute firefight with al Qaeda, “the most highly trained, most dangerous, most vicious killers on the planet,” without a scratch, but also survived a helicopter crash without a scratch.

    The Pakistani news report is available on you tube. The Internet site, Veterans Today, posted a translation along with a video of the interview. Information Clearing House made it available on May 17. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28110.htm

    If the interview is not a hoax and the translation is correct, we now know the answer to the unasked question: Why was there no White House ceremony with President Obama pinning medals all over the heroic SEALs who tracked down and executed Public Enemy Number One?

    The notion that Obama had to keep the SEALs’ identity secret in order to protect the SEALs from al Qaeda detracts from the heroic tough guy image of the SEALs, and it strains credulity that Obama’s political handlers would not have milked the occasion for all it is worth.

    Other than on the Veterans Today and ICH Internet sites, I have not seen any mention of the Pakistani news story. If the White House press corps is aware of the report, no one has asked President Obama or his press spokesperson about it. Helen Thomas was the last American reporter sufficiently brave to ask such a question, and she was exterminated by the Israel Lobby.

    In America we have reached the point where anyone who tells the truth is dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist” and marginalized. Recently, a professor of nano-chemistry from the University of Copenhagen made a lecture tour of major Canadian universities explaining the research, conducted by himself and a team of physicists and engineers, that resulted in finding small particles of unreacted nano-thermite in dust samples from the wreckage of the World Trade Center towers in addition to other evidence that the professor and the research team regard as conclusive scientific proof that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition.

    No American university dared to invite him, and as far as I know no mention of the explosive research report has ever appeared in the American press.

    I find it astonishing that 1,500 architects and engineers, who actually know something about buildings, their construction, their strength and weaknesses, and who have repeatedly requested a real investigation of the destruction of the three WTC buildings, are regarded as conspiracy kooks by people who know nothing whatsoever about architecture or engineering or buildings. The same goes for the large number of pilots who question the flight maneuvers carried out during the attacks, and the surviving firemen and “first responders” who report both hearing and personally experiencing explosions in the towers, some of which occurred in sub-basements.

    A large number of high-ranking political figures abroad don’t believe a word of the official 9/11 story. For example, the former president of Italy and dean of the Italian Senate, told Italy’s oldest newspaper, Corriere delia Sera, that the intelligence services of Europe “know well that the disastrous [9/11] attack has been planed and realized by the American CIA and the [Israeli] Mossad . . . in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part in [the invasions].

    Even people who report that there are dissenting views, as I have done, are branded conspiracy theorists and banned from the media. This extends into the Internet in addition to newspapers and TV. Not long ago a reporter for the Internet site, The Huffington Post, discovered that Pat Buchanan and I are critics of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. He was fascinated that there were some Reagan administration officials who dissented from the Republican Party’s war position and asked to interview me.

    After he posted the interview on The Huffington Post, someone told him that I was not sound on 9/11. In a panic the reporter contacted me, demanding to know if I disbelieved the official 9/11 story. I replied that being neither architect, engineer, physicist, chemist, pilot, nor firefighter, I had little to contribute to understanding the event, but that I had reported that various experts had raised questions.

    The reporter was terrified that he might somehow have given a 9/11 skeptic credibility and be fired for interviewing me about my war views for The Huffington Post. He quickly added at the beginning and, if memory serves, ending of the posted interview words to the effect that my lack of soundness on 9/11 meant that my views on the wars could be disregarded. If only he had known that I was unsure about the official 9/11 story, there would have been no interview.

    One doesn’t have to be a scientist, architect, engineer, pilot or firefighter to notice astonishing anomalies in the 9/11 story. Assume that the official story is correct and that a band of terrorists outwitted not only the CIA and FBI, but also all 16 US intelligence agencies and those of our NATO allies and Israel’s notorious Mossad, along with the National Security Council, NORAD, air traffic control and airport security four times in one hour on the same morning. Accept that this group of terrorists pulled off a feat worthy of a James Bond movie and delivered a humiliating blow to the world’s only superpower.

    If something like this really happened, would not the president, the Congress, and the media be demanding to know how such an improbable thing could have happened? Investigation and accountability would be the order of the day. Yet President Bush and Vice President Cheney resisted the pleas and demands for an investigation from the 9/11 families for one year, or was it two, before finally appointing a non-expert committee of politicians to listen to whatever the government chose to tell them. One of the politicians resigned from the commission on the grounds that “the fix is in.”
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    last part 2

    Even the two chairmen and the chief legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission wrote books in which they stated that they believe that members of the military and other parts of the government lied to the commission and that the commission considered referring the matter for investigation and prosecution.

    Thomas Kean, chairman of the 9/11 Commission, said: “FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue . . . We, to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us . . . It was just so far from the truth.”

    Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton said: “ We had a very short time frame . . . we did not have enough money . . . We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. . . . So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail.”

    As far as I know, not a single member of the government or the media made an issue of why the military would lie to the commission. This is another anomaly for which we have no explanation.

    The greatest puzzle is the conclusion drawn by a national audience from watching on their TV screens the collapse of the WTC towers. Most seem satisfied that the towers fell down as a result of structural damage inflicted by the airliners and from limited, low-temperature fires. Yet what the images show is not buildings falling down, but buildings blowing up. Buildings that are destroyed by fires and structural damage do not disintegrate in 10 seconds or less into fine dust with massive steel beams sliced at each floor level by high temperatures that building fires cannot attain. It has never happened, and it never will.

    Conduct an experiment. Free your mind of the programmed explanation of the towers’ destruction and try to discern what your eyes are telling you as you watch the videos of the towers that are available online. Is that the way buildings fall down from damage, or is that the way buildings are brought down by explosives? Little doubt, many Americans prefer the official story to the implications that follow from concluding that the official story is untrue.

    If reports are correct, the US government has gone into the business of managing the public’s perceptions of news and events. Apparently, the Pentagon has implemented Perception Management Psychological Operations. There are also reports that the State Department and other government agencies use Facebook and Twitter to stir up problems for the Syrian, Iranian, Russian, Chinese, and Venezuela governments in efforts to unseat governments not controlled by Washington. In addition, there are reports that both governments and private organizations employ “trolls” to surf the Internet and to attempt to discredit in blogs and comment sections reports and writers who are out of step with their interests. I believe I have encountered trolls myself.

    In addition to managing our perceptions, much is simply never reported. On May 19, 2011, the fourteen-decade-old British newspaper, The Statesman, reported that the Press Trust of India has reported that the Chinese government has warned Washington “in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China,” and advised the US government “to respect Pakistan’s sovereignty.” http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=370105&catid=35

    As trends forecaster Gerald Celente and I have warned, the warmongers in Washington are driving the world toward World War III. Once a country is captured by its military/security complex, the demand for profit drives the country deeper into war. Perhaps this news report from India is a hoax, or perhaps the never-diligent mainstream media will catch up with the news tomorrow, but so far this extraordinary warning from China has not been reported in the US media. [I had it posted on OEN.]

    The mainstream media and a significant portion of the Internet are content for our perceptions to be managed by psy-ops and by non-reporting. This is why I wrote not long ago that today Americans are living in George Orwell’s 1984.


    Paul Craig Roberts is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by Paul Craig Roberts