Health Care bill passes, civil rights figure called the N word

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Rep. Andre Carson and Rep. John Lewis Called the N-Word 15 Times; Rep. Emanuel Cleaver Was Spat on by Anti-Health Care Reform Protestor – What Does These Times Remind You Of?

WASHINGTON — House Democrats heard it all Saturday — words of inspiration from President Barack Obama and raucous chants of protests from demonstrators. And at times it was flat-out ugly, including some racial epithets aimed at black members of Congress.

Most of the day’s important work leading up to Sunday’s historic vote on health care was being done behind closed doors. Democratic leaders cajoled, bargained and did what they could to nail down the votes they will need to finally push Obama’s health care overhaul bill through the House.

But much else about the day was noisy, emotional and right out in the open. After more than a year debating the capstone of Obama’s domestic agenda and just hours to go before the showdown vote, there was little holding back.

The tone was set outside the Capitol. Clogging the sidewalks and streets of Capitol Hill were at least hundreds — no official estimate was yet available — of loud, furious protesters, many of them tea party opponents of the health care overhaul.

Rallies outside the Capitol are typically orderly, with speeches and well-behaved crowds. Saturday’s was different, with anger-fueled demonstrators surrounding members of Congress who walked by, yelling at them.

“? the bill,” the largely middle-aged crowd shouted, surging toward lawmakers who crossed the street between their office buildings and the Capitol.

The motorcade that carried Obama to Capitol Hill to whip up support for the bill drove past crowds waving signs that read “Stop the spending” and “Get your hands out of my pocketbook and health care.” Many booed and thrust their thumbs down as Obama rode by.

As police held demonstrators back to clear areas for lawmakers outside the Capitol Obama’s speech, some protesters jeered and chanted at the officers, “You work for us.”


Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., told a reporter that as he left the Cannon House Office Building with Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a leader of the civil rights era, some among the crowd chanted “the N-word, the N-word, 15 times.” Both Carson and Lewis are black, and Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones also said that it occurred.

“It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis,” said Carson, a large former police officer who said he wasn’t frightened but worried about the 70-year-old Lewis, who is twice his age. “He said it reminded him of another time.”

Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for Democratic Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., said a protester spit on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is black and said police escorted the lawmakers into the Capitol. Cleaver’s office said he would decline to press charges, but Sgt. Kimberly Schneider of the U.S. Capitol Police said in an e-mail later: “We did not make any arrests today.”

Clyburn, who led fellow black students in integrating South Carolina’s public facilities a half century ago, called the behavior “absolutely shocking.”

“I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus,” Clyburn told reporters.

Inside House office buildings, protesters made their views known by visiting lawmakers’ offices and chanting at legislators walking by.

Among the demonstrators was Delane Stewart, 65, of Cookeville, Tenn., who had come with her husband, Jesse.

“You know what’s coming next if this happens?” she said, referring to the health bill’s passage. “They’re going to come after gun control.”

Retired businessman Randy Simpson, 67, of Seneca, S.C., also said the health bill was just a first step.

“My concerns are about the health care bill, and the direction it takes us is toward communism, quite frankly,” he said.

At a daylong meeting of the House Rules Committee, members of both parties squeezed into a tiny hearing room traded accusations in a session that was often a shouting match.

“You all in the minority know what the American people think,” Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., said loudly and mockingly at Republicans repeatedly saying the public overwhelmingly opposes Obama’s health care bill.

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, said a tricky voting procedure Democrats had been contemplating “corrupts and prostitutes the system” and would “unleash a cultural war in this country.”

Obama’s Capitol Hill visit was the day’s emotional peak for House Democrats as he sought to energize them to finally approve the legislation.

He conceded that it could be tough for some to vote for the bill, but predicted it would end up being politically smart because once it becomes law people will realize they like its provisions like curbs on insurance companies.

“It is in your hands,” the president said in what Clyburn later called the best speech he’d ever heard Obama make. “It is time to pass health care reform for America, and I am confident that you are going to do it tomorrow.”

Source: Newsone/AP

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  • maxxb
    maxxb Members Posts: 58
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    Society has worked itself into a melting ? of fads and ignorance.
    We really havent gone too far culturally from the 60's, sure weve come an exponential length as far as technology, intrests, etc go. But those are all pretty shallow things, we havent really come a long way as far as deepness and CULTURE goes. And I dont mean culture as in different ethnicities. I mean people havent really become any more cultured than they were when they were shouting racial slurs. Im not even sure weve come any way at all, if not backwards.
  • Funky Dr
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    maxxb wrote: »
    Society has worked itself into a melting ? of fads and ignorance.
    We really havent gone too far culturally from the 60's, sure weve come an exponential length as far as technology, intrests, etc go. But those are all pretty shallow things, we havent really come a long way as far as deepness and CULTURE goes. And I dont mean culture as in different ethnicities. I mean people havent really become any more cultured than they were when they were shouting racial slurs. Im not even sure weve come any way at all, if not backwards.

    history always repeats itself. racist ideologies never die unfortunately they are just passed down
  • And Step
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    Wow.

    White people are losing it.

    I think the CBC should hire out various non descript young black males and plant them in the crowd and tell them to start socking anyone who gets out of line. This could go along way in releasing their pent up anger and it is creating jobs.
  • playmaker88
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    history always repeats itself. racist ideologies never die unfortunately they are just passed down


    Yup the sentiment is larger and more toxic than people are letting on..
  • Funky Dr
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    Yup the sentiment is larger and more toxic than people are letting on..

    I think its funny how they keep calling America "post racial" but hate groups are now bigger than they ever have been in HISTORY
  • earth two superman
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    I think its funny how they keep calling America "post racial" but hate groups are now bigger than they ever have been in HISTORY

    yeah but its not surprising. when obama got elected I knew they would come out in droves.
  • And Step
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    We need a place we can call our own.

    If they would have set us up like they did Israel none of this would be happening.

    Only white people allowed in are John Brown and the Doobie Brothers.
  • One Spliff
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    african americans are cowrads and hypocrites...thats why this ? happens...

    this would never happen in england in a million years, they wud be blood shed if a blacks were ever riduclued or discirmited agasint in public like this....portesters arew really allowed to racially abuse politicains out in the open like that...?

    wow.
  • mephistopheles
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    I think its funny how they keep calling America "post racial" but hate groups are now bigger than they ever have been in HISTORY

    Isn't this claim a bit of a stretch? I can understand an increase in membership but bigger than they ever have been in history?
  • And Step
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    One Spliff wrote: »
    african americans are cowrads and hypocrites...thats why this ? happens...

    this would never happen in england in a million years, they wud be blood shed if a blacks were ever riduclued or discirmited agasint in public like this....portesters arew really allowed to racially abuse politicains out in the open like that...?

    wow.

    Please the Brits beat ? down in Brixton on the regular. Besides the British been treating Blacks in there colonial possessions like beyotches for years. You ? ain't gonna do nothing but drink tea and crumpets and pay homage to the queen.

    Except for Ghanaians and Haitians.
  • edeeesq
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    Only people that should be surprised are white people.

    They were the only ones that were fooled to believe they are further along culturally than they actually are.
  • playmaker88
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    I think its funny how they keep calling America "post racial" but hate groups are now bigger than they ever have been in HISTORY

    You and i both know its a myth and code for.. Dont rock the boat.. or make trouble you have a black president now.

    That word always annoyed the ? out of me.
  • Funky Dr
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    Isn't this claim a bit of a stretch? I can understand an increase in membership but bigger than they ever have been in history?

    Its a fact:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35675956#35675956
  • janklow
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    I think its funny how they keep calling America "post racial" but hate groups are now bigger than they ever have been in HISTORY
    this strikes me as yet another "the time i live in must be the BEST or WORST time EVER type of remark." really, hate groups now are bigger than, say, the time when the KKK had massive political influence and membership?
    One Spliff wrote: »
    this would never happen in england in a million years, they wud be blood shed if a blacks were ever riduclued or discirmited agasint in public like this...
    ...i am just giving a blank stare at this "no one in England is publicly racist" remark
  • Recaptimus_Prime360
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    this is what happens when white people freak out, and is scared of change.
  • Funky Dr
    Funky Dr Banned Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭
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    janklow wrote: »
    this strikes me as yet another "the time i live in must be the BEST or WORST time EVER type of remark." really, hate groups now are bigger than, say, the time when the KKK had massive political influence and membership?

    The news said "record levels" (shrugs)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35675956#35675956

    Maybe it could mean the number of hate groups and not necessarily the membership? Maybe the KKK has less membership now but there's more splinter groups? I dont know, all I know is they said record levels.
  • playmaker88
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    janklow wrote: »
    ...i am just giving a blank stare at this "no one in England is publicly racist" remark

    Lol he must not remember the news 2 to 3 years ago.And the damn legacy for that matter.
  • janklow
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    Funky Dr wrote: »
    Maybe it could mean the number of hate groups and not necessarily the membership? Maybe the KKK has less membership now but there's more splinter groups? I dont know, all I know is they said record levels.
    just so you know, i'm not going to end up watching the video. but the little title implies to me it's the number of groups, not the membership, and i could see that being accurate; instead of one KKK, we have all these little "three-white-guys-in-a-trailer" groups around. it's still not as bad as it was back in the day, though.
  • Funky Dr
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    janklow wrote: »
    just so you know, i'm not going to end up watching the video.

    lmao

    you diabolical bastard!! J/K
  • Funky Dr
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    hate crime have risen though since the inauguration...