Who is the most controversial figure in Hip Hop history?

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MAKAVELI25
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edited July 2011 in The Face Off Forum
I can't decide between Suge Knight or Diddy. But there are plently more to choose from, including (but not limited to) 2Pac, Eazy E, Jay-Z, Dame Dash, etc.
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  • Niggas back
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    How are Jay-Z and diddy controversial? U just ether urself in ur own thread, lil ?
  • BackInWhite
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  • MAKAVELI25
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    ? back wrote: »
    How are Jay-Z and diddy controversial? U just ether urself in ur own thread, lil ?

    Jay-Z and Diddy are both hated by a lot of people because there are allegations that they don't treat the artists under them well. I know a lot of people who HATE Jay-Z and he is even rumored to be part of the Illuminati. Diddy is also just as hated (if not more) because he is perceived to be a money hungry dude who preys on the ignorance of his artists.
  • Kame
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    I would say em if you gonna use the world controversial
  • MAKAVELI25
    MAKAVELI25 Members Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭✭
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    I would say em if you gonna use the world controversial

    More than Suge or Diddy? A lot of hip hop fans don't like Eminem's records and think he's a gimmick. ? HATE Diddy and Suge
  • Co_Town_Michael
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    Jay-Z recruited me to the Illuminati.
  • Los216
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    Dr. Dre.....guilty by association. Dre has been in or around some of the most controversial figures in hip hop history including....

    NWA
    2Pac
    Eminem
    50 Cent
    Suge Knight
    Snoop

    Without Dre we wouldn't even have Eminem, 50, or Snoop for sure and you can make a case that Death Row wouldn't be Death Row without Dr. Dre
  • Kame
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    MAKAVELI25 wrote: »
    More than Suge or Diddy? A lot of hip hop fans don't like Eminem's records and think he's a gimmick. ? HATE Diddy and Suge

    Guy had middle class america on his ass
    the ? community
    the black community
    hell a lot of the white community

    Maybe not the new Alcoholics Anonymous Eminem but in the early mid 00's.. I would say he's more controversial than suge... diddy arguable because people blame the state of mainstream hip hop on him
  • H-Rap 180
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    Ice Cube.

    He went at the Cracka, the white-Jew, the Korean, the pork-chop preacher-man, the KKK, the LAPD, Uncle Sam, the house-? , and the devil.

    Ice Cube had Khalid Muhammad on his songs and in his videos, he aligned himself with the NOI, and formed the Lench Mob.

    He married a Black woman and raised 3 sons and a daughter while making his own record label and movie-production company after shaking a crooked white-Jew.

    Ice Cube never lost sight of who the enemy was even when he fell out with NWA.

    His entire identity is spitting in the face of white supremacy.
  • Niggas back
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    Being hated on is VERY far away from being controversial
  • Niggas back
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    Ice Cube.

    He went at the Cracka, the white-Jew, the Korean, the pork-chop preacher-man, the KKK, the LAPD, Uncle Sam, the house-? , and the devil.

    Ice Cube had Khalid Muhammad on his songs and in his videos, he aligned himself with the NOI, and formed the Lench Mob.

    He married a Black woman and raised 3 sons and a daughter while making his own record label and movie-production company after shaking a crooked white-Jew.

    Ice Cube never lost sight of who the enemy was even when he fell out with NWA.
    Ya, Cube was very controversial. ? , his whole catalog was
  • Kame
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    ? back wrote: »
    Being hated on is VERY far away from being controversial

    is it really though?
  • Kame
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    Ice Cube a definite candidate as well
  • Niggas back
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    is it really though?

    Ya, jay-z, puffy, etc... arent controversial, they're just hearsays....

    Now Ice Cube is, his first 3 albums had controversies written all over it, from album names, to songs
  • DMTxTHC
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    Cube is the GOAT, he actually got a letter from the FBI for his song ? the Police...My vote goes to Cube, Eminem would be high up there too.
  • rip.dilla
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    KanYe West had TWO Prezzes name dropping
  • H-Rap 180
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    Ice Cube a definite candidate as well


    In 1992, as a result of the album's controversy, the state of Oregon declared any display of Ice Cube's image in retail stores throughout the state illegal. This ban also included advertisements for St. Ides Malt Liquor, which Ice Cube endorsed at the time.[22] In the September 2006 issue of FHM, Ice Cube stated in an interview that he did not regret the controversial statements made on the album. Regarding the offense caused to Koreans, he said, "If there's still a problem, it's their problem."[citation needed] Due to fear that laws against racial incitement in the United Kingdom could see the album banned, the United Kingdom release removed the tracks "Black Korea" and "No Vaseline." Island Records, the distributor of this version of the album, deleted these tracks with the consent of Priority Records, but not Ice Cube himself.[15] However, these tracks do feature on this album in the present day.
  • H-Rap 180
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    Cube is the GOAT, he actually got a letter from the FBI for his song ? the Police...My vote goes to Cube, Eminem would be high up there too.

    Federal agents officially asked rap pioneers N.W.A to stop recording after receiving a slew of complaints about their expletive-laden lyrics. In an essay written for Flaunt magazine, group co-founder Arabian Prince reveals he and bandmates Ice Cube and Eazy-E received letters from F.B.I. officials asking them to stop releasing ? rap music.


    Prince - real name Mik Lezan - recalls, "(They told us) to stop recording such music... Upon our arrival at every airport terminal, we received a visit from the police reminding us not to use profanity onstage in their town, or face going to jail."

    But the Straight Outta Compton rap supergroup refused to acknowledge the threat against them - because they felt they were on a free-speech mission.

    The rapper writes, "N.W.A is best known for the fight for freedom of speech and expression."
  • rip.dilla
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    In 1992, as a result of the album's controversy, the state of Oregon declared any display of Ice Cube's image in retail stores throughout the state illegal. This ban also included advertisements for St. Ides Malt Liquor, which Ice Cube endorsed at the time.[22] In the September 2006 issue of FHM, Ice Cube stated in an interview that he did not regret the controversial statements made on the album. Regarding the offense caused to Koreans, he said, "If there's still a problem, it's their problem."[citation needed] Due to fear that laws against racial incitement in the United Kingdom could see the album banned, the United Kingdom release removed the tracks "Black Korea" and "No Vaseline." Island Records, the distributor of this version of the album, deleted these tracks with the consent of Priority Records, but not Ice Cube himself.[15] However, these tracks do feature on this album in the present day.
    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    Federal agents officially asked rap pioneers N.W.A to stop recording after receiving a slew of complaints about their expletive-laden lyrics. In an essay written for Flaunt magazine, group co-founder Arabian Prince reveals he and bandmates Ice Cube and Eazy-E received letters from F.B.I. officials asking them to stop releasing ? rap music.


    Prince - real name Mik Lezan - recalls, "(They told us) to stop recording such music... Upon our arrival at every airport terminal, we received a visit from the police reminding us not to use profanity onstage in their town, or face going to jail."

    But the Straight Outta Compton rap supergroup refused to acknowledge the threat against them - because they felt they were on a free-speech mission.

    The rapper writes, "N.W.A is best known for the fight for freedom of speech and expression."

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  • MAKAVELI25
    MAKAVELI25 Members Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭✭
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    No Suge Knight mentions?
  • GSonII
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    2PAC
    T.I.
    Puff
    Suge
    Jimmy Henchman
    Ice T
    Ice Cube
    Chuck D
  • DMTxTHC
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    MAKAVELI25 wrote: »
    No Suge Knight mentions?

    Only thing controversial that Suge done was throwing shots at Bad Boy at the 1995 Source awards. Other than that he's not controversial, he used to be feared perhaps, but not controversial. In fact, Suge was a pretty low-key guy up until late 1994.
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  • H-Rap 180
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    MAKAVELI25 wrote: »
    No Suge Knight mentions?

    Suge was controversial but he wasn't a threat to the establishment, he was Jimmy Iovines favorite ni99er.

    Millions of teenagers were not inspired by the words of Suge Knight, therefore he was not deemed controversial by the powers that be.
  • musicology1985
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    Chuck D

    Uncle Luke

    Ice Cube

    Tupac

    Eminem
  • gman82
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    Suge Knight. Started Death Row, the most notorious hip hop label of all time. Supposable hung vinilla ice over a balcony. Brought the streets and gang culture into hip hop. Has assaulted several people in and out the industry. Rumored to have Pac & Big murked (I don't believe so, at least not Pac) amongst other things.