Reason Thread: Will Jay-Z ever surpass Biggie on the goat list?

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T. Sanford
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edited October 2011 in The Face Off Forum
Some peeps might say Jay have 3 classics (Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint & American Gangster) against Biggie's 2 classic albums

Jay sold more records than Biggie


& etc

if not, whats keeping Jay back from reaching Biggie

Lets talk about it

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  • Already Home_17
    Already Home_17 Members Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    he already has in my opinion
  • Turfaholic
    Turfaholic Members Posts: 20,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    he already has. I remember when BET did the 100 greatest ever. Pac was #1, Jigga 2. And biggie was #3
  • dc's teflondon
    dc's teflondon Members Posts: 5,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    he already has
  • thecomebacklegend
    thecomebacklegend Members Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    100 greatest ever. Pac was #1

    .....................
  • EmbezzelJayR
    EmbezzelJayR Members Posts: 1,052
    edited October 2011
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    Jay z has too many pop albums and flop albums to even consider that.
  • Kame
    Kame Members Posts: 24,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    already has imo.......
  • Pusskaveli
    Pusskaveli Members Posts: 1,562
    edited October 2011
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    Pac
    Eminem

    >>>>>
  • TheIraq
    TheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why does Jay-Z bite some many of Big's rhymes? I think ? fail to realize how young Biggie was when he died and Jay was like 3 years older than Big so if you wanna talk about Jay sellin more records we can go to the shoulda, coulda, woulda arguement... If Jay would have been killed at 25 or 26 there would be no Jay-Z...
  • Lab Baby
    Lab Baby Members Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
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    *not a troll post*

    Big isn't on the GOAT list IMO. He's more like a phenomenon that came here for a short while to provide us the blueprint of being a great rapper. His two album and everything in between were timeless, in terms of everything else that was going on during their releases. Everything and everyone at that point gravitated to those albums. No rapper today can do that, make EVERYONE pay attention to a work with the perfect combination of talent and commercial appeal on a scale that Big did. However, the short time and the inability to predict what may have been knocks him off the list. Everyone on the list put in years and more than 2 classic albums. You can make the arguement that Jordan>Bill Russell even though Russell has more rings, but Jordan been in the game more than a decade. Big is more like a ? Bias, an extremely talented dude who could've been the best, but got his time cut short.
  • T. Sanford
    T. Sanford Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 25,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    TheIraq wrote: »
    Why does Jay-Z bite some many of Big's rhymes? I think ? fail to realize how young Biggie was when he died and Jay was like 3 years older than Big so if you wanna talk about Jay sellin more records we can go to the shoulda, coulda, woulda arguement... If Jay would have been killed at 25 or 26 there would be no Jay-Z...

    go there, the streets wanna know.
  • a posting ape
    a posting ape Members Posts: 335
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    Jay z has too many pop albums and flop albums to even consider that.

    i don't think 12 consecutive #1 records that went on to be platinum can be considered flops
  • TheIraq
    TheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    T. Sanford wrote: »
    go there, the streets wanna know.

    Of course he outsold Big but Big only put out 2 albums
  • N YO HOOD
    N YO HOOD Members Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i loved big but will never understand how one can be called the goat with only 2 albums
  • TheIraq
    TheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    N YO HOOD wrote: »
    i loved big but will never understand how one can be called the goat with only 2 albums


    Because New York still worships him and the only real connects that New York really have to Big musically are Jay-Z and Diddy