It's interesting that in the Bible we find commands to HEAR truth; not to SEE it.
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Really wrap your head around that for a second before drawing any further conclusion, if you will.
Again, It's interesting that in the Bible we find commands to HEAR truth; not to SEE it.
We're not told to FEEL the truth either.
For instance: "And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him." (Luke 9:35) <---- that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now yes, there are verses that touch on or that mention 'seeing' as how it is closely related to truth. Because ? has never asked us for a blind faith. Ex: here, Jesus tells the Jews: "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father (John 10:37-38) <
here we find a command to believe the works. Understand, "The works" refers to the work of ? . He doesn't ask them to SEE it, even though obviously he had done works by which they were witness of. Thus we learn that 'seeing' is involved in some way. But when it comes to what men have to do in their part, i haven't found one verse as commandment - instruction necessary to follow for man to receive salvation - for us to SEE the truth. Matter fact we even find this verse - "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24)<
that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now consider this: Because we know that certain ppl are born deaf, that the Hearing the Bible speaks of cannot be completely literal in meaning.
Just a tid bit, yall.
What other truths in the Bible can we bring forth to help build a meaningful understanding of what lies behind the fact that ? would decide that the Truth should be HEARD by mankind?
discussion open to all, believers, non believers, and athiests alike
My appologies in advance if i err in word with any of my posts. if yall have any questions about my stance plz just ask me, don't assume.
Again, It's interesting that in the Bible we find commands to HEAR truth; not to SEE it.
We're not told to FEEL the truth either.
For instance: "And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him." (Luke 9:35) <---- that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now yes, there are verses that touch on or that mention 'seeing' as how it is closely related to truth. Because ? has never asked us for a blind faith. Ex: here, Jesus tells the Jews: "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father (John 10:37-38) <
here we find a command to believe the works. Understand, "The works" refers to the work of ? . He doesn't ask them to SEE it, even though obviously he had done works by which they were witness of. Thus we learn that 'seeing' is involved in some way. But when it comes to what men have to do in their part, i haven't found one verse as commandment - instruction necessary to follow for man to receive salvation - for us to SEE the truth. Matter fact we even find this verse - "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24)<
that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now consider this: Because we know that certain ppl are born deaf, that the Hearing the Bible speaks of cannot be completely literal in meaning.
Just a tid bit, yall.
What other truths in the Bible can we bring forth to help build a meaningful understanding of what lies behind the fact that ? would decide that the Truth should be HEARD by mankind?
discussion open to all, believers, non believers, and athiests alike
My appologies in advance if i err in word with any of my posts. if yall have any questions about my stance plz just ask me, don't assume.
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I usually tell my hoes to taste the truth. They don't have to see it to feel it.
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I don't know if I'm on the right page with this but it's something I believe the Bible stresses...the importance of a person's word in relations. When ? says something is the truth, it's not presented as something to test or observe. It is based on ? 's Trustworthiness to keep His Word; that when He says something...we don't have to question His Integrity; that what is said is as good as it being done.
Though the issue goes far deeper than this, a good reason for why people don't believe in ? is not because they did tests and found Him false, but they don't trust that ? will keep His Word. -
Transliteration
shama`
Pronunciation
shä·mah' (Key)
Parts of Speech
masculine noun, verb
Root Word (Etymology)
A primitive root
TWOT Reference
2412, 2412a
Outline of Biblical Usage
v
1) to hear, listen to, obey
a) (Qal)
1) to hear (perceive by ear)
2) to hear of or concerning
3) to hear (have power to hear)
4) to hear with attention or interest, listen to
5) to understand (language)
6) to hear (of judicial cases)
7) to listen, give heed
a) to consent, agree
b) to grant request
8) to listen to, yield to
9) to obey, be obedient
b) (Niphal)
1) to be heard (of voice or sound)
2) to be heard of
3) to be regarded, be obeyed
c) (Piel) to cause to hear, call to hear, summon
d) (Hiphil)
1) to cause to hear, tell, proclaim, utter a sound
2) to sound aloud (musical term)
3) to make proclamation, summon
4) to cause to be heard
n m
2) sound
Deu 1:43 So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.
Deu 6:3-4 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do [it]; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD ? of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our ? [is] one LORD:
Job 37:2 Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound [that] goeth out of his mouth.
Psa 85:8 I will hear what ? the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.
Psa 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into SILENCE.
Pro 1:5 A wise [man] will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction [that causeth] to err from the words of knowledge.
Ecc 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of ? , and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.
Deu 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your ? , and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Deu 26:7 And when we cried unto the LORD ? of our fathers, the LORD heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression:
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i recommend studying musica universalis or "the music of the spheres".
also, there is a sound to everything. in utter silence, the next time yall pray- listen first. there is a faint buzz similar to if there is a t.v. on mute in the next room and you can feel the slight vibration of it in your inner ear. this in my opinion is the music of the spheres. it is a common sound heard by those who have reported their "kundalini" rising as well as by those who engage ion intense meditation. -
-_-soul rattler wrote: »I usually tell my hoes to taste the truth. They don't have to see it to feel it.
My man...
Paul said "Now concerning the things whereof you wrote to me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman."(1 Corinthians7:1)
He's not talking about 'touching'in general; he talkin about 'sexual touching'. BUt some of us 'concrete' type guys who like to see and feel everthing to know it's real gon stay fallin into the trap with these females smh. -
solid analysis wrote: »Really wrap your head around that for a second before drawing any further conclusion, if you will.
Again, It's interesting that in the Bible we find commands to HEAR truth; not to SEE it.
We're not told to FEEL the truth either.
For instance: "And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him." (Luke 9:35) <---- that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now yes, there are verses that touch on or that mention 'seeing' as how it is closely related to truth. Because ? has never asked us for a blind faith. Ex: here, Jesus tells the Jews: "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father (John 10:37-38) <
here we find a command to believe the works. Understand, "The works" refers to the work of ? . He doesn't ask them to SEE it, even though obviously he had done works by which they were witness of. Thus we learn that 'seeing' is involved in some way. But when it comes to what men have to do in their part, i haven't found one verse as commandment - instruction necessary to follow for man to receive salvation - for us to SEE the truth. Matter fact we even find this verse - "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24)<
that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now consider this: Because we know that certain ppl are born deaf, that the Hearing the Bible speaks of cannot be completely literal in meaning.
Just a tid bit, yall.
What other truths in the Bible can we bring forth to help build a meaningful understanding of what lies behind the fact that ? would decide that the Truth should be HEARD by mankind?
discussion open to all, believers, non believers, and athiests alike
My appologies in advance if i err in word with any of my posts. if yall have any questions about my stance plz just ask me, don't assume.
To "hear" means to acknowledge...to adhear...to recognize...not necessarily to hear with your ears.
Also...faith is the substance for things not seen..if u could actually see ? ..see how he works and moves, faith would be obsolete -
solid analysis wrote: »Really wrap your head around that for a second before drawing any further conclusion, if you will.
Again, It's interesting that in the Bible we find commands to HEAR truth; not to SEE it.
We're not told to FEEL the truth either.
For instance: "And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him." (Luke 9:35) <---- that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now yes, there are verses that touch on or that mention 'seeing' as how it is closely related to truth. Because ? has never asked us for a blind faith. Ex: here, Jesus tells the Jews: "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do them, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father (John 10:37-38) <
here we find a command to believe the works. Understand, "The works" refers to the work of ? . He doesn't ask them to SEE it, even though obviously he had done works by which they were witness of. Thus we learn that 'seeing' is involved in some way. But when it comes to what men have to do in their part, i haven't found one verse as commandment - instruction necessary to follow for man to receive salvation - for us to SEE the truth. Matter fact we even find this verse - "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24)<
that my ppl is a command; not a suggestion.
Now consider this: Because we know that certain ppl are born deaf, that the Hearing the Bible speaks of cannot be completely literal in meaning.
Just a tid bit, yall.
What other truths in the Bible can we bring forth to help build a meaningful understanding of what lies behind the fact that ? would decide that the Truth should be HEARD by mankind?
discussion open to all, believers, non believers, and athiests alike
My appologies in advance if i err in word with any of my posts. if yall have any questions about my stance plz just ask me, don't assume.
To "hear" means to acknowledge...to adhear...to recognize...not necessarily to hear with your ears.
Also...faith is the substance for things not seen..if u could actually see ? ..see how he works and moves, faith would be obsolete -
Well see and i think some of what you mentioned here is reason why ? never bothered to command us to 'SEE' the truth. ? has pretty much done that part for us. I don't know if i'm off, but i'm starting to think that the 'seeing' part is just another blessing that comes when FIRST we choose to follow ? . THe 'seeing' that happens is done by what ? reveals, not by what we ourselves have done or decided.alissowack wrote: »I don't know if I'm on the right page with this but it's something I believe the Bible stresses...the importance of a person's word in relations. When ? says something is the truth, it's not presented as something to test or observe. It is based on ? 's Trustworthiness to keep His Word; that when He says something...we don't have to question His Integrity; that what is said is as good as it being done.
Though the issue goes far deeper than this, a good reason for why people don't believe in ? is not because they did tests and found Him false, but they don't trust that ? will keep His Word.
Somebody i met through a coworker once told me that i seemed like that type of person that needs to SEE first, before i believe, in regards to my own skillset at the job. HE suggested that i reverse the order - believe first, in regards to my skillset, then i will start to see it. I wonder how that approach relates to us in regards to our understanding of ? 's word. And i wonder if there is any scripture to support that approach. -
this very useful information. It's interesting that one of the meaning of the root word is 'obey'. Wowww.Transliteration
shama`
Pronunciation
shä·mah' (Key)
Parts of Speech
masculine noun, verb
Root Word (Etymology)
A primitive root
TWOT Reference
2412, 2412a
Outline of Biblical Usage
v
1) to hear, listen to, obey
a) (Qal)
1) to hear (perceive by ear)
2) to hear of or concerning
3) to hear (have power to hear)
4) to hear with attention or interest, listen to
5) to understand (language)
6) to hear (of judicial cases)
7) to listen, give heed
a) to consent, agree
b) to grant request
8) to listen to, yield to
9) to obey, be obedient
b) (Niphal)
1) to be heard (of voice or sound)
2) to be heard of
3) to be regarded, be obeyed
c) (Piel) to cause to hear, call to hear, summon
d) (Hiphil)
1) to cause to hear, tell, proclaim, utter a sound
2) to sound aloud (musical term)
3) to make proclamation, summon
4) to cause to be heard
n m
2) sound
Deu 1:43 So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.
Deu 6:3-4 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do [it]; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD ? of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our ? [is] one LORD:
Job 37:2 Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound [that] goeth out of his mouth.
Psa 85:8 I will hear what ? the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.
Psa 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into SILENCE.
Pro 1:5 A wise [man] will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction [that causeth] to err from the words of knowledge.
Ecc 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of ? , and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.
Deu 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your ? , and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Deu 26:7 And when we cried unto the LORD ? of our fathers, the LORD heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression:
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i recommend studying musica universalis or "the music of the spheres".
also, there is a sound to everything. in utter silence, the next time yall pray- listen first. there is a faint buzz similar to if there is a t.v. on mute in the next room and you can feel the slight vibration of it in your inner ear. this in my opinion is the music of the spheres. it is a common sound heard by those who have reported their "kundalini" rising as well as by those who engage ion intense meditation.
I have to log off for now but i will see if we can't further expand on this. Good contribution, thnx. -
PUPU_IZ_DRO wrote: »To "hear" means to acknowledge...to adhear...to recognize...not necessarily to hear with your ears.
Also...faith is the substance for things not seen..if u could actually see ? ..see how he works and moves, faith would be obsolete
Good point. I'll add more to this later -
Do any of you believe our ancestors graciosly believed every word of the Bible given to them by Europeans? Or was this book tampered with and forced on them? Keep in mind all of the Bible wars in ancient times dealing with the Europeans conquering ancient cultures and burning all of their religious/spiritual text and replacing it with there own VERSIAN oF the Bible or truth.
Notice you have the word "LIE" in beLIEf.
Notice you have the word "KNOW" in KNOWledge.
keep that in mind. -
do any of you believe our ancestors graciosly believed every word of the bible given to them by europeans? Or was this book tampered with and forced on them? Keep in mind all of the bible wars in ancient times dealing with the europeans conquering ancient cultures and burning all of their religious/spiritual text and replacing it with there own versian of the bible or truth.
Notice you have the word "lie" in belief.
Notice you have the word "know" in knowledge.
Keep that in mind.
ok...but what do you think about the emphasis on hearing, sound and how it reflects in other spiritual traditions and the fact that in the hebraic thought there is a mutual relationship of listening going on? I think youre missing a big point that as you look at the original hebrew you find a drastic shift in the voice of the passages, namely from an abstract greek thought to concrete concepts that involve action. I get what youre saying but i dont see how it applies to this specific thread. -
ok...but what do you think about the emphasis on hearing, sound and how it reflects in other spiritual traditions and the fact that in the hebraic thought there is a mutual relationship of listening going on? I think youre missing a big point that as you look at the original hebrew you find a drastic shift in the voice of the passages, namely from an abstract greek thought to concrete concepts that involve action. I get what youre saying but i dont see how it applies to this specific thread.
it dont apply but was jus throwing it in here for thought. -
Do any of you believe our ancestors graciosly believed every word of the Bible given to them by Europeans? Or was this book tampered with and forced on them? Keep in mind all of the Bible wars in ancient times dealing with the Europeans conquering ancient cultures and burning all of their religious/spiritual text and replacing it with there own VERSIAN oF the Bible or truth.
Notice you have the word "LIE" in beLIEf.
Notice you have the word "KNOW" in KNOWledge.
keep that in mind.
HERE ARE SOME STUDY MATERIALS FOR YOU TO PUT SOME THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE....
http://stewartsynopsis.com/africans_wrote_the_bible.htm
The Africans Who Wrote The Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity Have Never Told
Judaism is the African way of life. Judaism was the religion developed in Africa by African people. It was adopted and adapted in a similar fashion to the Yoruba Orisha worship (Vodoun, Santeria, Lacumi, Condomble, etc) and is still being co-opted and altered by non-Africans today. To speak of an African influence on Judaism is like speaking of an African influence on Orisha Worship. It is not an African influence. It is still African and represents an African way of life.
Along with Cheikh Anta Diop, Alex Darkwah also traces Ancient Egypt to geographical Africa. Darkwah has DNA on his side; whereas, Diop used archeological artifacts, culture, and documentary text to prove his research. He was still challenged by "Europe" and his findings were labeled "untrue" by the scientific world. Darkwah proves that Africans wrote the Bible even though your personal "King James" Version of the Bible may have pages laced with White Greek characters and distributed throughout the world. I thought that the following excerpts were extremely interesting. A website visitor suggested that I read the Darkwah's book. Thanks to the website reader who suggested that I limit my research to Sub-Saharan Africa. You’ve started a greater quest to delve deeper into Europe's concealment of our history and to shed more light on how the global world exists in its current state.
The word Israel itself is an Akan word (Ghana). Darkwah points to the story of Jacob in Genesis 32:24-29, where the angel renames Jacob calling him Asrae or the European version, Israel. Asrae, Darkwah declares, is not the name of a nation, but instead means "the first one who visited."
According to Darkwah, if you as a Christian question the Bible, you were led by your pastor to believe that you were blaspheming ? . Here there is a faith versus reasoning quarrel. Now he has been able to reason into faith. Originally, he just had faith. But, as he learned more, he began to reason himself into faith.
The Ancient Egyptians were Black people and their modern descendants are alive and well in Africa. Real evidence of the modern descendants of the Ancient Egyptians in the tribes of Africa and the language and culture these people left behind in Ancient Egypt is the most powerful evidence there is about the Black racial origin of the Ancient Egyptians.
In the 1960's and 1970's there were Jewish scholars who were secretly traveling around Africa researching African Tribes to find out from which tribe they belonged. They studied the Akan Religion of the Asante people to find out the similarities between Judaism and Christianity. The word Israel was derived from an African Tribal meaning. Most "Jewish" people still carry their African Tribal names of origin.
The Sinai peninsula is clearly in Africa and is where the Israelites claim to receive their oral and written law. Geologically speaking all of the adjacent Arabian peninsula clear up to Syria is part of the African continent. The Great Rift Valley extends from Mozambique to Syria. The continental drift of tectonics shows the Arabian plate breaking off from the continent and colliding into the Asian plate to create the mountain ranges of Turkey and Armenia (University of Moscow). -
thanx for the link i am trying to get people to step outside the box and to realize certian things have been hid from us.
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It is almost impossible to understand the significance of many Old Testament events and themes apart from the geographical, cultural, and historical situation that existed during the Old Testament times. First of all, the name “Africa” was given to the Continent by Romans. Africa was also called Kemet, Libya, Ortegia, Corphye, Egypt, Ethiopia and/or Sedan, Olympia, Hesperia, Oceania, and Ta-Merry. The ancient name for Africa was “Akebu-Lan” (mother of mankind) or “Garden of Eden.” This name was used by the Moors, Nubians, Numidians, Khart-Hadddans (Carthaginians), and Ethiopians. Genesis 10:6-20 describes the descendants of Ham as being located in North Africa, Central Africa and in parts of southern Asia. Psalm 105:23 mentions the "Land of Ham" in Egypt, and Psalm 78:51 connect the "tents of Ham" with Egypt. In Genesis 10, Nimrod, son of Cush (whose name means "black"), founded a civilization in Mesopotamia. In Genesis 11, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees, a land whose earliest inhabitants included blacks.
Ethiopia and Egypt are mentioned more than any other countries in the Bible. Ethiopia is known in the Bible as Cush. Egypt is known as Mizraim. Mizraim and Cush are two sons of Ham. Mizraim is translated--Egypt and Cush Ethiopia. Many readers of this website have contacted me to argue that Egypt is a land of White people. They write...I know your view is common among African American studies-types, but it doesn't seem to be borne out by historical record. The pharaohs and their priests were certainly not Black. Here goes faith vs. reasoning again. The Romans didn't get to Egypt until 300 BC. We are talking 6000 years before that. There weren't any white people present before the Rome invasion. The original Christianity of Egypt was established by the apostle Mark in AD 42 in Ethiopia (Coptic Church--Coptic Orthodox Christianity). We have been told Christianity came from Rome. Does everything come from Europe? That is what we have led to believe.
LAND OF THE BLACKS--LAND OF THE BIBLE: Ancient Egypt was known indigenously as Kemet (Land of the Blacks). Ancient Egyptians have pinpointed their own ancestral origins to Mount Rwenzori Range in the east African cradle, otherwise known as "Mountains of the Moon." Some accounts state Egyptian civilization came out of Ethiopia, which as a term was used to designate the land south of Egypt (the Upper Nile Valley), or alternatively used to refer to the entire African continent. Chronologically, Egypt’s southern neighbor Nubia, which had its own distinct civilization, was the Nile Valley predecessor.
Jews believe they are ? ’s Chosen People because of a theological idea the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (known in Biblical times as Israelites, later known as Jews) are the chosen people. It comes from the book of Genesis in which ? chooses Abraham and his descendants for a unique covenant. The covenant involved certain obligations on the part of the people and promised certain things on the part of ? . European Jews believe this covenant is still in effect today—Jews are still a "chosen people." It may also answer the question why the Jews have been classified White, even with their kinky-bushy hair, swarthy skin, and broadened noses.
The main points of his book are:
Americans and Europeans assume that the Bible is about them, but the Bible is about my ancient ancestors and me…..Alex Darkwah
Modern-day Jews see the Bible as a record of their history because the King James Bible is centered on the history of Israel.
The Jewish people of Europe and America still carry African Tribal names. They carry the names of their ancestors who were Africans.
Statistically, the Lemba people from Southeast Africa are more Jewish than European Jews. In a particular Lemba Clan known as the Buba Clan, 53 percent of the males carry the unique DNA signature of Jewish priests. Males form the Lemba Tribe carry a higher incidence of the Jewish priestly DNA signature than the European and American Jewish population.
When the police have the fingerprints of a wanted man, they know the man whose prints match. The same thing can be said here.
The early Roman Catholic Church portrayed Jesus and his mother in the original Black images of the Jewish people at that time--The Black Madonna. What African tribe were they from?
The time period of the early Catholic Church is closer to the Jews leaving Africa and going to Europe than the Renaissance Painters who painted Jesus White.
What Europe did not count on was that Africans would still know their past.
Darkwah states that ancient Egypt was geographically in Africa and that so called European experts do not know the Ancient Egyptian story because they are not familiar with African tribal names. They do not have the linguistic and cultural backgrounds to identify Egyptian names and have simply transposed the African names of people and places in Ancient Egyptian history into European languages to make it possible for them to claim expertise. Darkwah traces the ancient past of African tribes from the Middle East through Ancient Egypt to inner Africa. He reveals the African tribe that historians gave the fictitious names the Sumerians, Akkadians, and the African Tribes that were the Ancient Egyptians.
Africans are the indigenous Native Hebrews (Jews). The greatest secret of Africa has never been told, and Christian Europe has been seeking to conceal for the past two thousand years is the African origin of the concepts, doctrines, sacramental practices of religion, and the documents that became the foundations of Christianity in Europe. Did you know that the names of Abraham, Isaac, Esau, and Jacob were all derived from African tribal words and names? Did you know that the earliest “Hebrew” name for ? , Adonai, was derived from an African tribal word? Did you know that other name of ? , Yahweh, was derived from an African tribal ? ? ... Did you know that the names of the authors of the Old Testament are not “Hebrew” or “Jewish” names, but transposed African tribal names? Christian Europe has never known these because it has never known the African linguistic and cultural side of the biblical story.
The indigenous African tribal name of the most popular Ancient Egyptian king the west was Tutu Ankoma—not Tutankhamun. Not only do we know the indigenous African tribal name of this Ancient Egyptian king, but we also know where the modern dynasty of his ancient dynasty is today. We know in Africa that the Ancient Egyptian king who built the middle pyramid in Giza was called Akufu and not Khufu as the experts have told us. We also know that his two sons completed the procession of pyramids and placed a lion in the front of the procession. These sons were Dade Afre and not Djedefra as the experts transposed this name; and his brother was Ochere Afre and not Chephren as the experts have told us. The modern dynasty of these ancient kings is the Akuapem Dynasty that can be found today in the Eastern Region of Ghana. Conservatives, liberals, and all in between can go to check these people out and verify the royal names among these people. -
The book is about the Africans who wrote the Bible as well as Ancient Egypt. It is the untold story of the African tribes that were the Ancient Egyptians. It is the untold story of the people from these African tribes that left Ancient Egypt for it to become the biblical Exodus. It is about the untold story of these people that later went to Europe to become the Jews and Hebrews. It is about untold story of the Africans who actually wrote the documents of the Bible before Afrim (Jewish) scholars translated these documents for the Greeks in Ancient Egypt and claimed that their people in Israel wrote those documents.
We in Africa even know the indigenous African tribal name of the people of the Exodus before they went to Europe to become the Jews and Hebrews. A review of a DNA study of Jewish people African tribes discovered one of the African tribes from which some of the people of the Exodus originated. Check it out in the New York Times of May 9, 1999. What does this prove? It proves the Ancient Egyptian and biblical stories were all Black people’s stories.
POLITICAL PALACE: Original Hebrews Were Black
(Submitted by: R. Mosley)
To Judah, B Real & the rest of my already racially enlightened Brothers & Sisters in this forum.....I just want to warn you that most so-called White Jews with genuine Hebrew bloodlines are not ready to accept neither the fact that their Hebrew origins/bloodlines are Black.... nor the fact that all of Mankind descended from the so-called Negroid Race.
I once had a Jewish online "friend" that was just the sweetest thing this side of Heaven until I hit him with the news that his curly hair & dusky features were genetic indicators of his Negroid decent. He freaked out on me in such an ugly fashion that it reminded me of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.
You see the stigma attached to being Black is so unpalatable for some folks that it causes them to spazz. But, according to Jim Crow, ? Lynch, the government, the Catholic Church, European standards, etc.....despite appearances to the contrary caused by recessive genes...if there is one drop of Black blood in your lineage you are considered Black.
Elaborate caste systems were created by "society" for mulattoes, quadroons, octoroons, (Jews), etc. Which explains why so many people of color are still stuck..."color struck" in their slave mentalities today. Light vs. darker complexions meant certain privileges.
But Negroid Jewish ancestry has been a well-known, documented, & accepted fact among educated Caucasians for centuries. Famed scholars, historians, philosophers, scientists, archaeologists, have been known to refer to Jews as sand ? , mongrels, & other semi Negroid terms.
Such mentality helped to justify their indentured enslavement/employment and use as tax collectors, accountants, bankers, money lenders, overseers, financial watch dogs, slum landlords, foremen, etc to keep track of money for the conquering elite... which included the Romans, then much later & now... the British.
Which is why Austrian born ? had little problem victimizing them as he masterminded the German Revolution known as the Holocaust. The German people were sick of working for slave wages in their own highly industrialized nation under the leadership of Jewish watchdogs while their resources were being commandeered & pocketed by the British. Since they couldn't reach the Brits, (as usual) they attacked the emissaries (overseers).
Over the centuries, due to the race mixing among the Pharisees & Sadducees with the conquering Romans & Asiatic peoples the bloodlines & semi-Negroid (mongrel/chop suey) appearances of the Hebrews & Arabs evolved to become what we see today.
By polite social standards, Yeshua was considered a Black bastard…a militant rebel... of lowly birth that did not meet the social nor political criteria required to be The Messiah.
I guess that when you have been raised to feel smugly & condescendingly superior to someone not even considered HUE-MAN then find yourself in the same boat it is rather mind blowing. When folks prefer to live in a state of denial, their minds are reprobated & they will not be moved. They will twist your words, intentionally take things out of context, and vilify you in an effort to hold onto their delusions of superiority rather than embrace the Black Man as "brother"...or equal. Cain will continue to destroy Abel until ? 's day of reckoning.
When asked by Whites what difference does it make whether Jesus was black or White...I simply smile & reply... If it doesn't make any difference, why did you make Him white? Can YOU handle the Truth?
http://www.colorq.org/Bible/?d=Historical_Background&x=Afroasiatic
The Origin of Hebrew Civilization is Afroasiatic
When I asked a Russian Jewish acquaintance how many European languages she knew, she listed English, Russian and HEBREW! Easily forgotten is the fact that Hebrew is NOT a European language. Hebrew is a Semitic language. It belongs in the same linguistic subfamily with modern Arabic, Amharic, Tigre and Tigrinya and some other East African and West Asian languages such as Ge'ez and Syriac.1 Amharic, Tigre and Tigrinya are used exclusively in black Africa.
Semitic languages are the languages of populations native to Africa and Asia, NOT Europe. Semitic languages in turn belong to a larger family of languages, the Afroasiatic. Afroasiatic has 5 branches -- Kushitic, Egyptian, Berber, Chadic, and Semitic.2 All these branches, except Semitic, are found only in Africa.3 Some scholars believe the Afroasiatic languages originated in Africa and then spread to the Asian continent.4 The Chadic branch is by far the largest subfamily, containing 150 African tongues and spanning a vast area of West Africa, including Nigeria and the Cameroons.5 Linguist Joseph H. Greenberg deduced that the original homeland of Afroasiatic speakers may be somewhere in Ethiopia. 6
So often do people associate Jewish identity with white European Jews that the rest of the Jewish world, and the very origin of the Jewish people, are forgotten. After all, the ancient Hebrews came out of North AFRICA (Egypt) into West ASIA (Israel). The vast majority of the world's Jewish population lived in North Africa and West Asia during the Middle Ages.7 The major centers of Jewish learning were once in Africa and Asia. 3rd Century BCE Alexandria (in Egypt), with its high Jewish population, was "the greatest city in the Jewish world".8 Between the 3rd and 5th centuries CE, the Jewish academies of Babylon (in present day Iraq) established the system of Biblical commentary that came to used by the entire Jewish world, with the Babylonian Talmud remaining an integral part of Jewish scholarship even in modern times.9 And yet the achievements and expanse of African and Asian Jewry are largely invisible to the rest of the world, even to fellow Asians and Africans.
I interviewed a few Chinese college students from China and Taiwan about their knowledge of world Jewry. Every one of them thought all Jews are from Europe and all Jews are white. None of them even knew that there were Jews in their own country, China! They didn't know that there are brown Jews and black Jews, all the way from Ethiopia to Yemen to Iran to India to China. As far as they were concerned, only white Jews were the "real" Jews. When I told them that Jews in China were West ASIAN immigrants of color, they exclaimed, "That can't be true!"
Many university systems outside Europe and America emulate the course content of European/American universities. The unfortunate consequence is that non-European/American students know more about Europe/America than about their own homeland and their own neighbors. It is particularly upsetting how students of color internalize a world view of white as prevalent, of white as normal, as evinced by the Chinese students' reaction to the idea of Chinese Jews.
I also interviewed a number of Israelis. Even those Israelis whose parents were from Africa or Asia feel closer to the Western world than to the surrounding Arab countries on the Asian continent. Given the current hostilities between Arabs and Jews, this is not surprising, but what is surprising is that Israel sees itself as a 'European' nation.10 Israel's claim to being 'European' is even more tenuous than Turkey's (at least part of Turkey sits on the European continent). Israel sends its basketball team to compete in the European championships.11 Less well known is the fact that Israel also sends contestants to the Miss Asia/Pacific contest.12 -
© CJ, first uploaded in 1999, last updated in 2009
Notes
Wikipedia entry on Semitic languages - Present Situation
Wikipedia entry on Afro-asiatic languages - Distribution and Branches
Wikipedia entry on Afro-asiatic languages - Distribution and Branches
Wikipedia entry on Afro-asiatic languages - original homeland and date
Chadic Languages on Encyclopedia Britannica Online
Joseph H. Greenberg, "Languages of Africa," International Journal of American Linguistics, Part II, vol 29, no. 1, January 1963
Jews, almost extinct in Egyptian city Alexandria (USAToday, 2002)
Jewish Communities of the World, 1998-1999 Edition, p192
Jews in Babylon - the original diaspora community by Professor Isaiah Gafni, 'The Talmud' on Wikipedia
Lieberman pushes Israel to join EU (Jerusalem post, Jan 31, 2007)
Wikipedia entry on Euroleague
Wikipedia entry on Miss Asia Pacific International
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thanx for the link i am trying to get people to step outside the box and to realize certian things have been hid from us.
its all good. Just making sure the baby dont go out with the bathwater.... -
Well what does that have to do with each individual that examines the contents of the Bible for themselves and judges righteously that it is from ? , hearing and accepting the message as being from ? ?Do any of you believe our ancestors graciosly believed every word of the Bible given to them by Europeans? Or was this book tampered with and forced on them? Keep in mind all of the Bible wars in ancient times dealing with the Europeans conquering ancient cultures and burning all of their religious/spiritual text and replacing it with there own VERSIAN oF the Bible or truth. -
solid analysis wrote: »Well what does that have to do with each individual that examines the contents of the Bible for themselves and judges righteously that it is from ? , hearing and accepting the message as being from ? ?
if it makes u feel comfortable then fine. my question was for thought purposes to get people to think a little and step outside the box "they" want u confined in. we live in a culture driven by fear 24/7 by the powers that be they use as a tool to keep u blinded. once they got people in a state of fear its easy to brainwash and control them. case in point 9/11 they bombarded us with fear and used it to control us. same with the use of a tool Satan and all this war propaganda its all for fear and control purposes.
"dont think" since there is the fear and reality of eternal hell.
but wen u study the scriptures thats jus not so. but oh yea every word of this king james "version" is from ? ......
But one thing the powers that be always put the truth in plain sight if u have eyes to see and ears to hear.
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if it makes u feel comfortable then fine. my question was for thought purposes to get people to think a little and step outside the box "they" want u confined in. we live in a culture driven by fear 24/7 by the powers that be they use as a tool to keep u blinded. once they got people in a state of fear its easy to brainwash and control them. case in point 9/11 they bombarded us with fear and used it to control us. same with the use of a tool Satan and all this war propaganda its all for fear and control purposes.
"dont think" since there is the fear and reality of eternal hell.
but wen u study the scriptures thats jus not so. but oh yea every word of this king james "version" is from ? ......
But one thing the powers that be always put the truth in plain sight if u have eyes to see and ears to hear.
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they live is a criminally slept on movie...
yea they always put a lot of truth in these movies... like they say most of these people arent ready to be unplugged from the matrix of a world these powers that be created. -
I swear this video from this 1988 movie "They Live" is just like the reality of this current day world. They show the fall of the U.S. eonomy which the powers that be CREATED THEMSELVES, the formation of the one world global government, tent cities, and a war on terrorism right in your face. And since thats the truth they might also be showing us the truth behind area 51 and or all these ufo reports. I personally believe like ancient civilizations have evidence of that the earth is not the only people in this universe. Just like earth is teamed with life I also believe the universe is as well.
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It is almost impossible to understand the significance of many Old Testament events and themes apart from the geographical, cultural, and historical situation that existed during the Old Testament times. First of all, the name “Africa” was given to the Continent by Romans. Africa was also called Kemet, Libya, Ortegia, Corphye, Egypt, Ethiopia and/or Sedan, Olympia, Hesperia, Oceania, and Ta-Merry. The ancient name for Africa was “Akebu-Lan” (mother of mankind) or “Garden of Eden.” This name was used by the Moors, Nubians, Numidians, Khart-Hadddans (Carthaginians), and Ethiopians. Genesis 10:6-20 describes the descendants of Ham as being located in North Africa, Central Africa and in parts of southern Asia. Psalm 105:23 mentions the "Land of Ham" in Egypt, and Psalm 78:51 connect the "tents of Ham" with Egypt. In Genesis 10, Nimrod, son of Cush (whose name means "black"), founded a civilization in Mesopotamia. In Genesis 11, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees, a land whose earliest inhabitants included blacks.
Ethiopia and Egypt are mentioned more than any other countries in the Bible. Ethiopia is known in the Bible as Cush. Egypt is known as Mizraim. Mizraim and Cush are two sons of Ham. Mizraim is translated--Egypt and Cush Ethiopia. Many readers of this website have contacted me to argue that Egypt is a land of White people. They write...I know your view is common among African American studies-types, but it doesn't seem to be borne out by historical record. The pharaohs and their priests were certainly not Black. Here goes faith vs. reasoning again. The Romans didn't get to Egypt until 300 BC. We are talking 6000 years before that. There weren't any white people present before the Rome invasion. The original Christianity of Egypt was established by the apostle Mark in AD 42 in Ethiopia (Coptic Church--Coptic Orthodox Christianity). We have been told Christianity came from Rome. Does everything come from Europe? That is what we have led to believe.
exactly, and i agree wit the last point, ppl give rome far more credit than necessary when it comes to things dealing with Christianity. They are not the Fathers of anything dealing with scripture, and matter fact Roman Catholiscm is a man made Italian religion who doctrine in several areas does not come from ? .
dates for the earliest depiction of a black jesus, u know?The early Roman Catholic Church portrayed Jesus and his mother in the original Black images of the Jewish people at that time--The Black Madonna. What African tribe were they from? -
solid analysis wrote: »exactly, and i agree wit the last point, ppl give rome far more credit than necessary when it comes to things dealing with Christianity. They are not the Fathers of anything dealing with scripture, and matter fact Roman Catholiscm is a man made Italian religion who doctrine in several areas does not come from ? .
dates for the earliest depiction of a black jesus, u know?
The King James "version" of the Bible is a product of the Roman Catholic church since they tampered with it especially with this false doctrine of eternal hell among many other things. But the original scriptures were inspired.
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