Some people are bitter that Obamas in office due to how he got in

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TX_Made713
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Just be honest with yourselves

You can see it in the comments/speeches/opinions they let out.

Deep down they are mad he won the election because everybody voted due to his skin color.

They wanted him to fail from the start. You can tell they are picking at him with very petty petty accusations "hes no good this, his policies are that, hes a socialist this etc etc"

Im sayin would yall have preferred palin and McCain to be in office?

Seriously Obama is not doing bad at all. Hes doing an exceptional job dealing with the cards he was dealt. A lot of yall ? just got hate in yall blood, i mean come on.......dude rose from the bottom and came to the very pentacle of the U.S.A.

Dude probably wont get a second term due to the massive hate hes getting for nothing.
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  • 2stepz_ahead
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    hes being a president while black.....thats the problem
    the only way white people will pass the torch is when the ship is going down... as along as it floats they will do whatever they have to do to keep blacks out or at bey
    if the black guy keeps the ship afloat in a bad state ...trust me there is a white guy somewhere trying to make it seem like he did nothing yet plotting his take over
    but if the ship goes down....people will only see that the black guy did it...not the white guy that set it up to sink
  • TX_Made713
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    good ass ? point.


    white people are strategically planning their return to the white house. they are trying to make it seem hes doing terrible and even make uneducated blacks feel like he aint ? ..its sad people are being brainwashed and dont even realize it.

    I cant say I agree with EVERY single little decision Obama makes but for the most part hes trying to unify america, making it more of a democracy.
  • CapitalB
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    true.. alot of people have hate in they blood..
    but lets not forget those who has his ? in they mouth.. ? goes both ways...

    Obama's not the saint u tryin to make him out to be..
  • DarcSkies777
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    If a CEO is forced to retire by the board because he was doing a ? up job or because of "term limits" and the new CEO promises to fix the previous CEO's ? ups but 2 years later he seems to have the same damn policies as the last guy...and even when he does do something he promised during the interview process it's half assed.....HE DESERVES TO GET ? ON. I dont give a ? where he "came from" or what kind of adversity he faced as a child. Save that for your memoirs or Black History Month book reports.

    I support Obama but I wont kiss his ass and I will always call him out. I got hate in my blood because of that? It's not that I dont understand politics. I know its not easy to do. I know Congress is full of ? . The problem is...HE DOESNT. He continues to ass kiss and get NOTHING out of it. So of course I criticize him.

    You're right about the Socialist ? but to say people are angry with him for ? reasons is untrue. THere's plenty not to like about this presidency so far. Assuming you're not still in a state of euphoric "Thank ? Bush is gone! First Black President A Change is Gon' Come We Need to Do Better" mode.
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    true.. alot of people have hate in they blood..
    but lets not forget those who has his ? in they mouth.. ? goes both ways...

    Obama's not the saint u tryin to make him out to be..



    I aint sayin dude is perfect, but damn...to pick at every LITTLE BITTY detail that he does? its like wtf

    Dude is not doing that bad of a job at all
  • Yung_Souf_Money
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    If obama was white this wouldnt be an issue

    hell black people been voting white presidents for centuries so now people want to make it seem he got there cause he's black? what about the other 43 presidents before Obama?they all white right?

    we vote for one ? ? black president people get all offended

    hell yeah if we see a qualified person of any color,we gonna vote his ass in based on the injustice and racism of this country from a long ass time ago

    white people have always used racism to prevent any black person into office so they shouldnt be getting mad at him being president
  • TX_Made713
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    If a CEO is forced to retire by the board because he was doing a ? up job or because of "term limits" and the new CEO promises to fix the previous CEO's ? ups but 2 years later he seems to have the same damn policies as the last guy...and even when he does do something he promised during the interview process it's half assed.....HE DESERVES TO GET ? ON. I dont give a ? where he "came from" or what kind of adversity he faced as a child. Save that for your memoirs or Black History Month book reports.

    I support Obama but I wont kiss his ass and I will always call him out. I got hate in my blood because of that? It's not that Id ont understand politics. I know its not easy to do. I know Congress is full of ? . The problem is...HE DOESNT. He continues to ass kiss and get NOTHING out of it. So of course I criticize him.

    You're right about the Socialist ? but to say people are angry with him for ? reasons is untrue. THere's plenty not to like about this presidency so far. Assuming you're not still in a state of euphoric "Thank ? Bush is gone! First Black President A Change is Gon' Come We Need to Do Better" mode.



    name some policies that he and bush have in common

    and name what hes doing is "half assed"
  • CapitalB
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    I aint sayin dude is perfect, but damn...to pick at every LITTLE BITTY detail that he does? its like wtf

    Dude is not doing that bad of a job at all

    i hear what u sayin.. but this may seem crazy.. but im glad we have a black pres.. because mu'fuckas is go be critical of his ass!! as they should. this aint the climate to chill in the shade.. for too long too many presidents have gotten away with ? .. i jus hope that the trend doesnt end.. we need more enlightened citizens.. i always chuckle at the argument "that when Bush did it nobody said nothin, so why say somethin now." who gives a ? who's doin it.. its bein done.. and if people are sayin the right thing.. i can careless if its for the wrong reasons.. the ? needs to be said.. like DarcSkies said.. that ? is jus like Bush.. ill argue he's an accelerated version.. people should be outraged..
  • CapitalB
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    If obama was white this wouldnt be an issue

    hell black people been voting white presidents for centuries so now people want to make it seem he got there cause he's black? what about the other 43 presidents before Obama?they all white right?

    we vote for one ? ? black president people get all offended

    hell yeah if we see a qualified person of any color,we gonna vote his ass in based on the injustice and racism of this country from a long ass time ago

    white people have always used racism to prevent any black person into office so they shouldnt be getting mad at him being president

    see! this is exactly my point...
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    i hear what u sayin.. but this may seem crazy.. but im glad we have a black pres.. because mu'fuckas is go be critical of his ass!! as they should. this aint the climate to chill in the shade.. for too long too many presidents have gotten away with ? .. i jus hope that the trend doesnt end.. we need more enlightened citizens.. i always chuckle at the argument "that when Bush did it nobody said nothin, so why say somethin now." who gives a ? who's doin it.. its bein done.. and if people are sayin the right thing.. i can careless if its for the wrong reasons.. the ? needs to be said.. like DarcSkies said.. that ? is jus like Bush.. ill argue he's an accelerated version.. people should be outraged..


    *Insert bun b gif here*

    cmon son, dude aint ? like bush.

    post up why you feel hes like bush

    thing is Obama never stood a chance from the jump. This is like a previous boss walking into a company and trashing the place, then getting fired. Another black boss takes his position to where hes the boss of a bunch of red neck racist...this boss walks around and attempts to pick up all the trash with his bare hands piece by piece. All while hes doing this, his employees and sub managers are all criticize him for not picking up the trash fast enough

    like dude isnt superman, wtf do yall expect him to do? fly around and save every single american in the country?\

    ? is mad cause obama didnt use his magic wand to seal up the oil well in the gulf
  • CapitalB
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    *Insert bun b gif here*

    cmon son, dude aint ? like bush.

    post up why you feel hes like bush

    thing is Obama never stood a chance from the jump. This is like a previous boss walking into a company and trashing the place, then getting fired. Another black boss takes his position to where hes the boss of a bunch of red neck racist...this boss walks around and attempts to pick up all the trash with his bare hands piece by piece. All while hes doing this, his employees and sub managers are all criticize him for not picking up the trash fast enough

    like dude isnt superman, wtf do yall expect him to do? fly around and save every single american in the country?\

    ? is mad cause obama didnt use his magic wand to seal up the oil well in the gulf

    lets see he's spending more then bush.. more troops are in afghan and iraq combined then with bush.. and now im hearing they're backin off of their deadline..
    he's a puppet for the corporations.. bush didnt give a ? about what the world thought... obama doesnt give a ? about what his people think (healthcare)..
    what happened to that government transparency?? he's campaigned agaisnt corporations and pork barrel spending but hire nothing but lobbyist on his staff.. i mean i can go on.. that ? says one thing and does another..
    and people like Souf wants others to shut up cause nobody said nothin when Bush did it...
  • DarcSkies777
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    name some policies that he and bush have in common


    and name what hes doing is "half assed"
    I hope the IC server doesnt crash lol

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

    ^^^ 8 Minutes worth of Jon Stewert using Obama's own words against him...

    Obama vs. Bush Counter Terrorism Policies:

    Washington - The debate over America's counterterrorism policies is sounding a lot like the debate over the Bush administration's aggressive "war on terror."


    Former Afghan detainees pray during a press conference following their release from jail, in Kabul,...
    (Shah Marai /AFP/Getty Images)
    Nine months into the Obama administration, the same human rights and civil liberties officials who were sharply critical of President Bush are leveling similar criticisms about the new administration.

    Although the rhetoric from the White House is toned down, harsh interrogations have stopped, and secret CIA prisons are shuttered, critics complain that emerging Obama antiterror policies seem more Bush-like than Obama-like.

    The administration has embraced Mr. Bush's law of war philosophy justifying the potential indefinite detention of terror suspects deemed by President Obama to be too difficult to put on trial, but also too dangerous to release.

    ^^^ Same Terrorism Policy and the part that isnt the same is ALMOST the same aka HAlf-ASSED...

    SHALL WE CONTINUE? WE SHALL

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/On-National-Security-Is-Obama-Just-Like-Bush-3183
    In 2007 and 2009, Senator Barack Obama campaigned hard on rolling back the national security policies of the Bush administration: He wanted to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, put more emphasis on civil liberties, and in general bring a liberal Democrat tinge to the conservative Republican "Global War on Terror." Now that he's president, we don't use the phrase "Global War on Terror" anymore, but has anything else of substance changed?

    A growing contingent of liberal and conservative writer are arguing that, when it comes to national security, President Obama is a lot like President Bush.

    The 9/14 President The Washington Times' Eli Lake argues in Reason Magazine that Obama is still governing with the powers granted Bush on Sept. 14, 2001.

    Obama, like Bush, is committed to a long war against an amorphous network of terrorists. In at least the constitutional sense, he is no harder or softer than his predecessor. And like his predecessor, he has not come up with a plan for relinquishing these extraordinary powers once the long war ends, if it ever does. If change is going to come to U.S. policy on terrorism, it will have to come from a bipartisan recognition that Americans cannot trust their government to tell them when they are safe again.

    Obama's Hard-Right Shift Salon's Glenn Greenwald gasps, "So back then, Obama said the President lacks the power merely to detain U.S. citizens without charges. Now, as President, he claims the power to assassinate them without charges. Could even his hardest-core loyalists try to reconcile that with a straight face?"

    Bush Speechwriter: 'You're Welcome' David Frum writes, "some conservative criticism of the president has, ironically, given him undeserved political cover, by enabling him to pretend that he has radically changed Bush administration policies. The true point is that in office, Obama has discovered that those policies were necessary and reasonable. You’re welcome. Apology accepted."

    Shows That 'Cheney v. Obama' Is Theater The Washington Post's David Weigel says the media loves to play up Obama-Cheney spats, but in fact there's little difference. "We like to wring our hands and hit our keyboards whenever some veteran of the Bush administration -- some named Cheney, some with other surnames -- issue a 'smackdown' against Obama's national security policy. It's good copy, but it's immaterial to how the administration is actually conducting this."


    Good For Obama Owner of The New Republic Marty Peretz is glad. "I take it is a relief that, aside from its rhetorical pandering to the civil libertarian absolutists who can’t seem to grasp that Muslim terror networks are in a worldwide war with the United States and its remaining allies, the Obama administration is actually extending the life of the Bush presidency in its defense against jihad," he writes. "This is about fine distinctions ... as it ought to be."

    National Review: Obama Too Conservative For Us The conservative magazine's Kevin Williamson worries about Obama's assassination program. "Surely there has to be some operational constraint on the executive when it comes to the killing of U.S. citizens," he writes. "This seems to me to be setting an awful and reckless precedent."
    ^^^ Obama administration thinks it's OK for the POTUS to order the assassination of American citizens....JUST LIKE BUSH.
    How Obama is like George W. Bush

    Here's an unlikely comparison that seems to be becoming a meme: how Barack Obama is like George W. Bush.

    First, Texas Monthly editor Paul Burka drew the analogy in a Saturday NYT op-ed:

    By losing the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, Barack Obama found himself sharing common ground with an adversary whose politics he has often criticized: George W. Bush. Like Mr. Bush in 2000, Mr. Obama finished second in a primary he had expected to win.

    As it happens, this is not the only way that Mr. Obama resembles Mr. Bush. The Illinois Democrat seems to have learned a lot from the first presidential campaign of a Texas Republican.

    Mr. Bush positioned himself in 2000 as “a uniter, not a divider,” and Mr. Obama, while carefully avoiding using the word “uniter,” now offers a similar message. Just as Mr. Bush’s message of compassionate conservatism appealed to many Democrats and independent-minded liberals, Mr. Obama’s politics of hope seems to disarm Republicans and rightward-leaning independents.

    Unfortunately for those conservatives drawn to Mr. Obama’s message of unity, he almost certainly can’t deliver on it. Just as President Bush failed to unite Washington and instead ended up contributing to its divisiveness, so Mr. Obama will eventually have to accept that conflict, rather than unity, is the natural condition of politics.

    Then, in his column today, Paul Krugman offers a less flattering analogy between Obama and Bush:

    The Obama campaign’s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I’m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from “morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.” Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure — doesn’t that sound familiar?

    I think there's actually something to this comparison. Like Bush in 2000, Obama is letting his non-threatening persona do the work and benefiting from a personality-based narrative that lets him get away with more in terms of policy. But Burka is right -- personality is not a solution to polarization. It's hard to imagine Obama succeeding at "bringing people together" unless he wins in a landslide. Think of it this way: do you think Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are going to want to work in good faith with him? Or are they going to try to undermine him at every turn?

    ^^^ For ? TAX CUTS for the rich....JUST LIKE BUSH. Half-assed at closing loop holes for those who ship jobs over seas SMH JUST LIKE BUSH

    Obams policy on off shore oil drilling was JUST LIKE BUSH..until ? hit thee fan lol

    Obama Healthcare policy = HALF-ASSED. He CLAIMS that he just didnt have the votes for a public option but the truth is he never even tried. Everybody who supported a public option in Congress LITERALLY never had a seat at the table. Now we have some half-assed bill that doesnt help the poor at all and will actually riase prices because there will be more demand but the same supply.
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    lets see he's spending more then bush.. more troops are in afghan and iraq combined then with bush.. and now im hearing they're backin off of their deadline..
    he's a puppet for the corporations.. bush didnt give a ? about what the world thought... obama doesnt give a ? about what his people think (healthcare)..
    what happened to that government transparency?? he's campaigned agaisnt corporations and pork barrel spending but hire nothing but lobbyist on his staff.. i mean i can go on.. that ? says one thing and does another..
    and people like Souf wants others to shut up cause nobody said nothin when Bush did it...


    #1: A lot of this so called money hes spending is actually coming from Bush's prior death sentence to america. If anything Blame bush for that.

    While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. A

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/


    #2:
    All U.S. troops have to be out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, under an agreement the Bush administration signed with the Iraqi government last year.

    Last time I checked this was the plan. If he reniged on this, please post the evidence, cause I haven't heard it yet.

    #3: yes any president is a puppet, we know who's really in control in america. And the health care reform is the best thing to happen to america. Have you even read what the health care reform will include? Look up the second bill of rights roosevelt was going to propose then look at the health care reform...tell me whats the difference? he was being called a hero for this yet obama is being called a villian...just hate

    #4: Obama is giving the people what the ? they want...half the administration is what the public wanted in power in the first place..so your saying the public was wrong? Hilary, McCain, etc...come on now


    I could also go on
  • CapitalB
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    1. here u go.. tryin to shift blame and excuse a ? ..
    2. i really dont care to go dig through archives tryin to find somethin i happened to glance over.. i didnt state it as fact.. jus said im hearing.. or have read.. ill try to find it though..
    3. please explain how its the best thing to happen since slice bread hit the shelves?? people that cant afford health care will now have to get it or be taxed/penalized rigth?? i mean correct me if im wrong.. the only people benefiting is the insureres... they get more people now.. but like i said.. i could be wrong cause i didnt read the whole thing.. jus the arguing points.. but thats not my point.. the point is the public was not in favor of it and he went against that.. jus like they werent for the bailout.. when will people realize no matter who's in office they dont give a ? about u?!?!
    4. and im kind of confused on what ur tryin to say.. people he put in play is a contradiction to what he campaigned for and against... u dont hire foxes to guard the hen house..
  • TX_Made713
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    I hope the IC server doesnt crash lol



    you had a long ass quote.

    I watched a few minutes of Jon stewert, it did seem contradictive

    Yes it appears he's keeping a lot of the policies bush had when it comes to terrorism..ill admit that, but then again as we both know, the president is just a puppet

    i wouldnt be suprised if it was a higher power forcing this on Obama



    and about about saying its ok for him to order the assassination of American TERRORIST...


    um is this a bad thing? have your forgotten 9/11 and all the innocent people who had to die? sorry for not shedding a tear on the matter

    Obamas tax issue im assuming deals with the effects of the stimulus and health care reform...like i said to the other guy, dude is basically taking a little money from the rich to give to the poor....again boo hoo, some fat ass rich dude is going to have to pay a little more so the little poor child up the street can eat..big deal
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    1. here u go.. tryin to shift blame and excuse a ? ..
    2. i really dont care to go dig through archives tryin to find somethin i happened to glance over.. i didnt state it as fact.. jus said im hearing.. or have read.. ill try to find it though..
    3. please explain how its the best thing to happen since slice bread hit the shelves?? people that cant afford health care will now have to get it or be taxed/penalized rigth?? i mean correct me if im wrong.. the only people benefiting is the insureres... they get more people now.. but like i said.. i could be wrong cause i didnt read the whole thing.. jus the arguing points.. but thats not my point.. the point is the public was not in favor of it and he went against that.. jus like they werent for the bailout.. when will people realize no matter who's in office they dont give a ? about u?!?!
    4. and im kind of confused on what ur tryin to say.. people he put in play is a contradiction to what he campaigned for and against... u dont hire foxes to guard the hen house..

    Please explain to me the malicious intent of the "evil president" by dropping the health care reform bill.

    This is what it states:
    Coverage:

    * Would expand coverage to 32 million Americans who are currently uninsured.

    Health Insurance Exchanges:

    * The uninsured and self-employed would be able to purchase insurance through state-based exchanges with subsidies available to individuals and families with income between the 133 percent and 400 percent of poverty level.
    * Separate exchanges would be created for small businesses to purchase coverage -- effective 2014.
    * Funding available to states to establish exchanges within one year of enactment and until January 1, 2015.

    Subsidies:

    * Individuals and families who make between 100 percent - 400 percent of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) and want to purchase their own health insurance on an exchange are eligible for subsidies. They cannot be eligible for Medicare, Medicaid and cannot be covered by an employer. Eligible buyers receive premium credits and there is a cap for how much they have to contribute to their premiums on a sliding scale.

    Federal Poverty Level for family of four is $22,050



    Paying for the Plan:

    * Medicare Payroll tax on investment income -- Starting in 2012, the Medicare Payroll Tax will be expanded to include unearned income. That will be a 3.8 percent tax on investment income for families making more than $250,000 per year ($200,000 for individuals).
    * Excise Tax -- Beginning in 2018, insurance companies will pay a 40 percent excise tax on so-called "Cadillac" high-end insurance plans worth over $27,500 for families ($10,200 for individuals). Dental and vision plans are exempt and will not be counted in the total cost of a family's plan.
    * Tanning Tax -- 10 percent excise tax on indoor tanning services.

    Medicare:

    * Closes the Medicare prescription drug "donut hole" by 2020. Seniors who hit the donut hole by 2010 will receive a $250 rebate.
    * Beginning in 2011, seniors in the gap will receive a 50 percent discount on brand name drugs. The bill also includes $500 billion in Medicare cuts over the next decade.

    Medicaid:

    * Expands Medicaid to include 133 percent of federal poverty level which is $29,327 for a family of four.
    * Requires states to expand Medicaid to include childless adults starting in 2014.
    * Federal Government pays 100 percent of costs for covering newly eligible individuals through 2016.
    * Illegal immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid.

    Insurance Reforms:

    * Six months after enactment, insurance companies could no longer denying children coverage based on a preexisting condition.

    * Starting in 2014, insurance companies cannot deny coverage to anyone with preexisting conditions.
    * Insurance companies must allow children to stay on their parent's insurance plans until age 26th.


    Abortion:

    * The bill segregates private insurance premium funds from taxpayer funds. Individuals would have to pay for abortion coverage by making two separate payments, private funds would have to be kept in a separate account from federal and taxpayer funds.
    * No health care plan would be required to offer abortion coverage. States could pass legislation choosing to opt out of offering abortion coverage through the exchange.

    **Separately, anti-abortion Democrats worked out language with the White House on an executive order that would state that no federal funds can be used to pay for abortions except in the case of ? , ? or health of the mother. (Read more here)

    Individual Mandate:

    * In 2014, everyone must purchase health insurance or face a $695 annual fine. There are some exceptions for low-income people.

    Employer Mandate:

    * Technically, there is no employer mandate. Employers with more than 50 employees must provide health insurance or pay a fine of $2000 per worker each year if any worker receives federal subsidies to purchase health insurance. Fines applied to entire number of employees minus some allowances.

    Immigration:

    * Illegal immigrants will not be allowed to buy health insurance in the exchanges -- even if they pay completely with their own money.


    again, I aint sayin dude is president of the century but Im sayin hes better than a lot of them rednecks that passed through the white house prior

    im saying he was playing it smart by electing a little bit of everybody in his cabinet. Dude didnt want to hear all the McCain supporters ? and do basically everything they are doing anyway to ? on his presidency. This is why he put Mccain in office.

    hes trying to make the nation more democratic, leaving no person's opinion unheard
  • CapitalB
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    you had a long ass quote.

    I watched a few minutes of Jon stewert, it did seem contradictive

    Yes it appears he's keeping a lot of the policies bush had when it comes to terrorism..ill admit that, but then again as we both know, the president is just a puppet

    i wouldnt be suprised if it was a higher power forcing this on Obama



    and about about saying its ok for him to order the assassination of American TERRORIST...


    um is this a bad thing? have your forgotten 9/11 and all the innocent people who had to die? sorry for not shedding a tear on the matter

    Obamas tax issue im assuming deals with the effects of the stimulus and health care reform...like i said to the other guy, dude is basically taking a little money from the rich to give to the poor....again boo hoo, some fat ass rich dude is going to have to pay a little more so the little poor child up the street can eat..big deal

    this whole post is what i was talkin about in my first post.. that ? cant do no wrong.. if u aint blamin Bush.. u blamin some "power" forcing Obama to do ? ..
    some have hate in they blood.. some have a ? in they mouth..
    im indifferent.. that ? a politician.. i can give two ? about the dude.. and guess what?? the feelin is mutual..
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    this whole post is what i was talkin about in my first post.. that ? cant do no wrong.. if u aint blamin Bush.. u blamin some "power" forcing Obama to do ? ..
    some have hate in they blood.. some have a ? in they mouth..
    im indifferent.. that ? a politician.. i can give two ? about the dude.. and guess what?? the feelin is mutual..


    if my stance is he can do no wrong, yours is he can do no right..

    you basically just hate all politicians equally no matter what they do

    the president could be your own mother and you'd still say ? her..got cha
  • CapitalB
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    if my stance is he can do no wrong, yours is he can do no right..

    you basically just hate all politicians equally no matter what they do

    the president could be your own mother and you'd still say ? her..got cha

    haha nah.. my stance is they dont have my best interest at heart.. but thats okay because i have it.. they do what they do.. im'a do what i do.. and i dont hate them.. i wanna step my game up and be jus like them one day. haha

    but in all seriousness..
    when u hear politicians speak and campaign they're either talkin about the rich or middle class..
    nobody represents the poor.. and unless ur makin over 200k u aint middle class.. u poor.. and thats lower middle class..
    poor ? votin democrat makes about as much sense as redneck trailer trash votin republican.. all u are is a means to get them in office..
  • TX_Made713
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    haha nah.. my stance is they dont have my best interest at heart.. but thats okay because i have it.. they do what they do.. im'a do what i do.. and i dont hate them.. i wanna step my game up and be jus like them one day. haha

    but in all seriousness..
    when u hear politicians speak and campaign they're either talkin about the rich or middle class..
    nobody represents the poor.. and unless ur makin over 200k u aint middle class.. u poor.. and thats lower middle class..
    poor ? votin democrat makes about as much sense as redneck trailer trash votin republican.. all u are is a means to get them in office.
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    in that sense I agree.

    but 200k is middle class border line rich

    under 40k is poor depending on your circumstances and dependents


    but yeah politicians do use the under privileged to get into office, just like bank CEO's use them to make themselves richer by brainwashing them into accepting loans.


    The government is corrupt and thats the way it is. I aint "Trip ridin Obama" im just sayin compared to the others hes pretty good. I wouldnt mind jumping into politics one day myself. I prefer right over wrong.

    One day we will get that "Dream president" who can do no wrong..but for now we gotta settle with what we have

    if you dont like whats out there so much, then how about you take steps to change it
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    in that sense I agree.

    but 200k is middle class border line rich

    under 40k is poor depending on your circumstances and dependents


    but yeah politicians do use the under privileged to get into office, just like bank CEO's use them to make themselves richer by brainwashing them into accepting loans.


    The government is corrupt and thats the way it is. I aint "Trip ridin Obama" im just sayin compared to the others hes pretty good. I wouldnt mind jumping into politics one day myself. I prefer right over wrong.

    One day we will get that "Dream president" who can do no wrong..but for now we gotta settle with what we have

    if you dont like whats out there so much, then how about you take steps to change it

    thats borderline rich to ? thats poor.. trust me.. its kind of like when u was a kid.. a dollar was everythin.. then u got a lil older and u realized it wasnt ? .. i remember my first check was like 200 bux.. i thought i was ballin. HA! when u got a family of four 200k aint much of nothin.. trust me.. thats lower middle class..

    but yeh.. im tryin to find my purpose in life.. but i gotta get my money up first.. people only listen to winners..
    when i was broke talkin my ? .. ? was like shut up.. now i got a lil paper peopple take notice.. so one step at a time.. gotta crawl before i walk..
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    200k?


    how many kids do you have 12?

    thats enough to support a family and still ball out of control...

    my uncle and his wife makes 100k each and dude lives in a monster house in the suburbs
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    200k?


    how many kids do you have 12?

    thats enough to support a family and still ball out of control...

    my uncle and his wife makes 100k each and dude lives in a monster house in the suburbs

    whats the cost of living.. and i dont have no kids..
    but my moms is a principle.. and my dad is a firefighter.. took some more classes to become a paramedic or some ? .. the ones who ride the lil truck.. he'll probably make chief in a couple years.. i dont know how much they make.. but its well over 150k.. they comfortable dont get me wrong.. but all they kids are grown.. my lil sis is the youngest but she's in college on full ride.. but my moms was the one who broke down the demographic.. and she said had we been kids it wouldnt have been hard.. but it wouldnt have been as easy either..

    cause u gotta think.. the more money u make.. the more ur gonna spend.. its inescapable.. u worked hard to get the ? u want.. and the ? u want happens to be the finer things in life.. when u broke u make due.. and ull think to urself "man if i had this much".. but once u gettit.. u realized it aint much at all.. ur not gonna go from makin 20k or less a year eatin noodles to makin 60k a year and eatin noodles.. lets jus be real..
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    TX_Made713 wrote: »
    you had a long ass quote.

    I watched a few minutes of Jon stewert, it did seem contradictive

    Yes it appears he's keeping a lot of the policies bush had when it comes to terrorism..ill admit that, but then again as we both know, the president is just a puppet

    i wouldnt be suprised if it was a higher power forcing this on Obama

    Big Business owns the country thats why. Campaign finance laws have ? up our country.
    and about about saying its ok for him to order the assassination of American TERRORIST...


    um is this a bad thing? have your forgotten 9/11 and all the innocent people who had to die? sorry for not shedding a tear on the matter
    have you forgotten about the U.S. CONSTITUTION ???

    Lets' review the 6th and 7th Amendments shall we...
    SEVENTH AMENDMENT .. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
    ^^^ Basically unless you are in the military you can not be punished before being charged and tried by a jury.
    Obamas tax issue im assuming deals with the effects of the stimulus and health care reform...like i said to the other guy, dude is basically taking a little money from the rich to give to the poor....again boo hoo, some fat ass rich dude is going to have to pay a little more so the little poor child up the street can eat..big deal
    No, the point is he is NOT really taking that money after all. He is not pushing really hard to pass laws that close the loop holes for rich people who ARE getting away with not paying their taxes.
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    Big Business owns the country thats why. Campaign finance laws have ? up our country.

    have you forgotten about the U.S. CONSTITUTION ???

    Lets' review the 6th and 7th Amendments shall we...


    ^^^ Basically unless you are in the military you can not be punished before being charged and tried by a jury.


    No, the point is he is NOT really taking that money after all. He is not pushing really hard to pass laws that close the loop holes for rich people who ARE getting away with not paying their taxes.



    LOL lets not take it to the constitution bro....

    so are you saying if im a terrorist standing on a hill with an ak threating to shoot everybody in the name of bin ladin that the government shouldnt shoot me?

    your forgetting about the 9th amendment which explains the enumerated powers in the constitution that arent stated but still apply