The Official MMA Thread: Alvarez TKOs Gaethje, Ngannou KOs Overeem, Holloway TKOs Aldo

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  • CockMcStuffins
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    I'm convinced that either dana and Chael are ? nh, or that Chael has some dirt on dana and is blackmailing him

    Average fighter gets a title shot, almost wins but gets stopped....turns out after a post fight drug test that he cheated....wins 2 fights and gets another title ? and gets stopped AGAIN....gets chased up to another weight class and immediately gets another title shot without winning at least ONE fight in that weight class....

    All because if his mouth piece? Nh
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  • CockMcStuffins
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    Something ain't right.....the "good ol boy" network is in full effect
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  • MR.CJ
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    hendo needs to heal faster
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2012
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    I don't think ya'll are giving Sonnen's enough skills enough credit. Although I don't believe he deserves a title shot. Its marketable as ? tho, so thats why he's getting it. Business comes first.

    GSP is up and away the best WW. But he would still lose to Silva.

    Dave Herman: "Jiu-Jitsu doesn't work on me."
    Noguiera: "Armbar."
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  • Will Munny
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    Even tho Fitch was the underdog on cards, I never had a doubt he would win, (except when E. Silva almost choked him out in the second round.) but man he really fought like he had a chip on his shoulder. He needs to do that more often. I think he can break guys like that alot more often if he turns up the pressure.
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  • The Recipe
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    UFC bombshell: Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen to coach 'TUF,' fight in April

    http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/10/16/3512914/ufc-bombshell-jon-jones-and-chael-sonnen-to-coach-tuf-fight-in-april

    I guess I will be watching TUF again, smart move to bring an audience back to that show.
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  • gum989
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    The Recipe wrote: »

    UFC bombshell: Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen to coach 'TUF,' fight in April

    http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/10/16/3512914/ufc-bombshell-jon-jones-and-chael-sonnen-to-coach-tuf-fight-in-april

    I guess I will be watching TUF again, smart move to bring an audience back to that show.

    Hey, thanks for this info man! I had no idea, 'cause I didn't read the other posts on this page.
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  • gum989
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    gum989 wrote: »
    The Recipe wrote: »

    UFC bombshell: Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen to coach 'TUF,' fight in April

    http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/10/16/3512914/ufc-bombshell-jon-jones-and-chael-sonnen-to-coach-tuf-fight-in-april

    I guess I will be watching TUF again, smart move to bring an audience back to that show.

    Hey, thanks for this info man! I had no idea, 'cause I didn't read the other posts on this page.

    "UFC bombshell". LOL.

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  • MR.CJ
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    Dan Henderson ‏@danhendo
    I guess I should just quit training to win fights and to be exciting for the fans and just go to ? talking school. @danawhite

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  • Muhannad
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    Hendo was right. This is bullsh!t. Dana is messing up the credibility of the UFC by giving who don't deserve it titleshots because they are marketable to the (middle American) masses. Brock got a titleshot with a dodgy record and lkimited skillset (back then all he could do was wrestle and his standup and bjj never became anything special)against Couture a few years ago and now this bullsh*t. Sonnen hasn't accomplished ? in LHW and he comes from a loss. if he won against two contenders I'd kinda understand it, but this doesn't make no sense at all. Dana can talk all the sh*t he wants but at the end of the day it's all about marketability and what sells. We saw it with Brock getting titleshots without deserving it, we saw it with Kimbo who had no business being in TUF and now we're seeing it with Chael. Pride > UFC.

    Hendo was right; all you seem to have to do is talk sh*t, start random tweefs and pop sh*t and apologize (ask Wandy). I won't be watching this TUF but I will be watching him getting his a*s kicked by Jon Jones.
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    Hendo doesn't have the right to talk. Truth be told, he's the one to blame for the whole event cancellation fiasco. Had he told the UFC about his injury when it happened instead of waiting til damn near the week of the fight, they probably could have salvaged the event and the grounds for this whole Sonnen/Jones rivalry would never have been blown up.
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  • Muhannad
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    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Hendo doesn't have the right to talk. Truth be told, he's the one to blame for the whole event cancellation fiasco. Had he told the UFC about his injury when it happened instead of waiting til damn near the week of the fight, they probably could have salvaged the event and the grounds for this whole Sonnen/Jones rivalry would never have been blown up.
    I blame Dana/Zuffa though. It´s all about ppv to them which is why guys like Brock and Sonnen got titleshots eventhough they didn't deserve it. They had Kimbo in TUF and later on UFC when he had no business being there based on his skillset and record. It's all about money to them. They messing up the credibility of these belts by giving titleshots to guys because they sell ppv's.
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  • Will Munny
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    The UFC is a business and a political machine. It doesn't truly care about the sport. It only cares about the sport enough to keep that aspect of it alive so it can continue to earn.

    I will say, its ? to Hendo not to get this fight. He's one of the best, if not the best American-born fighter of all time and his window is closing because he's old as hell. I would be just as pumped for that fight as a fight with Sonnen. Now we have to wait for an entire ? season of TUF?

    TUF is such ? dogshit!!!!! I'm so sick of the same ? format! The show is floundering and this is the chance to save it, but this is only a band aid on a gunshot wound. That whole show needs an overhaul.

    ? I'm suddenly ? as hell!
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  • vinny vegas
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    Remember when Dana said that Sonnen would have to beat Griffin to be "in the mix"? Apparently, he forgot he said that ? ...
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    Muhannad X wrote: »
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Hendo doesn't have the right to talk. Truth be told, he's the one to blame for the whole event cancellation fiasco. Had he told the UFC about his injury when it happened instead of waiting til damn near the week of the fight, they probably could have salvaged the event and the grounds for this whole Sonnen/Jones rivalry would never have been blown up.
    I blame Dana/Zuffa though. It´s all about ppv to them which is why guys like Brock and Sonnen got titleshots eventhough they didn't deserve it. They had Kimbo in TUF and later on UFC when he had no business being there based on his skillset and record. It's all about money to them. They messing up the credibility of these belts by giving titleshots to guys because they sell ppv's.

    That's true, but sometimes ? like that happens. With Brock, the HW was weak at the time anyway. They clearly used him to raise interest in the division again. He beat a couple big names at the time and then got a title shot. He didn't deserve it, but under the circumstances it really wasn't as back as people make it seem. In the case of Kimbo, he had already fought in major televised events. Sure he wasn't really experienced, but it wasn't crazy to feature him in TUF. TUF is supposed to be the proving ground for fighters to enter the UFC. Giving him a shot was not a bad move especially given his popularity. Almost all TUF contestants of worth get a couple fights in the UFC. Why should Kimbo be any different, especially given that people actually wanted to see him compete? It's not like they gave him a title shot or anything.
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  • cainvelasquez
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    MR.CJ wrote: »
    Dan Henderson ‏@danhendo
    I guess I should just quit training to win fights and to be exciting for the fans and just go to ? talking school. @danawhite

    Lol, Hendo is Sonnens mentor. No loyalty i guess.

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  • Muhannad
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    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    Muhannad X wrote: »
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Hendo doesn't have the right to talk. Truth be told, he's the one to blame for the whole event cancellation fiasco. Had he told the UFC about his injury when it happened instead of waiting til damn near the week of the fight, they probably could have salvaged the event and the grounds for this whole Sonnen/Jones rivalry would never have been blown up.
    I blame Dana/Zuffa though. It´s all about ppv to them which is why guys like Brock and Sonnen got titleshots eventhough they didn't deserve it. They had Kimbo in TUF and later on UFC when he had no business being there based on his skillset and record. It's all about money to them. They messing up the credibility of these belts by giving titleshots to guys because they sell ppv's.

    That's true, but sometimes ? like that happens. With Brock, the HW was weak at the time anyway. They clearly used him to raise interest in the division again. He beat a couple big names at the time and then got a title shot. He didn't deserve it, but under the circumstances it really wasn't as back as people make it seem. In the case of Kimbo, he had already fought in major televised events. Sure he wasn't really experienced, but it wasn't crazy to feature him in TUF. TUF is supposed to be the proving ground for fighters to enter the UFC. Giving him a shot was not a bad move especially given his popularity. Almost all TUF contestants of worth get a couple fights in the UFC. Why should Kimbo be any different, especially given that people actually wanted to see him compete? It's not like they gave him a title shot or anything.
    I respect your opinion but what big names had Brock beaten at that time? His record was 2-1 I believe. He didn't deserve that titleshot but Dana and them wanted to bring in the wwe/ redneck crowd. It was all about selling ppv's.

    Dana was blasting Kimbo for his limited talent prior to him being on TUF. If he wouldn't be marketable and as popular as he was, he would never be on TUF based on his skillset alone. Most if not all of those youtube fights were staged by that porn company he used to bounce for. EliteFC wasn't a credible organisation BTW.
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  • 2stepz_ahead
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    so from alot of yall are saying.....dana became a billionaire off of selling good matchups when its really about a marketable fighter and not a necessarily good fighter?
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    I forget, did he win the championship from Mir or Couture. If it was from Mir, then he beat Heath Herring and Couture. If it was from Couture, then he had just beaten Herring at the time. Either way, the point still stands that there weren't many people for him to go through to get to the Championship. The division was real weak at the time.

    And if I'm not mistaken, even after letting Kimbo into TUF, Dana made it clear he let Kimbo in so that everyone could see him fail and show that the real deal is much different than what Kimbo had done. For once Dana was actually right.
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  • KNiGHTS
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    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    I forget, did he win the championship from Mir or Couture. If it was from Mir, then he beat Heath Herring and Couture. If it was from Couture, then he had just beaten Herring at the time. Either way, the point still stands that there weren't many people for him to go through to get to the Championship. The division was real weak at the time.

    And if I'm not mistaken, even after letting Kimbo into TUF, Dana made it clear he let Kimbo in so that everyone could see him fail and show that the real deal is much different than what Kimbo had done. For once Dana was actually right.

    I believe Brock beat Herring then Randy for the belt.

    And I thought Dana threw that ? into the pond AFTER Kimbo got eliminated.

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  • sobek
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtHrN9d_k_0
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  • Ghostdenithegawd
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WvybiFEMo8E


    SMFH some white people never get it

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  • The Lonious Monk
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    KingGivBiz wrote: »
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    That's actually a pretty interesting chart.
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