What will it take for black people to become Republicans in greater numbers
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CollegeBoi12
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Lets discuss it
It seems that black people tend to vote as a group for Democratic candidates even though they only come to black communities prior to election
There are black Republicans (Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele) but for the most part, they are shunned by many in the black community and seen as "sell-outs" and "Uncle Toms"
It seems that black people tend to vote as a group for Democratic candidates even though they only come to black communities prior to election
There are black Republicans (Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele) but for the most part, they are shunned by many in the black community and seen as "sell-outs" and "Uncle Toms"
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Blacks don't support Republicans for several reasons two that come to mind are
1)The history associated with them
2)The image of them being the ones who work in the interests of big corporations and neglect inner cities -
idk...i'm a socialist so...
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CollegeBoi12 wrote: »Lets discuss it
It seems that black people tend to vote as a group for Democratic candidates even though they only come to black communities prior to election
There are black Republicans (Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele) but for the most part, they are shunned by many in the black community and seen as "sell-outs" and "Uncle Toms"
Colin Powell>>>>>>>all you average mofos calling cuzzo a sell-out
you wouldn't see mofos doing ? in politics for real if it wasn't for him
the rest of the black republicans....................? em
ironically black people are very republican when it comes to values, but the blatant racism and ? up by Repubs keeps black folks voting democratic
even tho Dems are just as racist -
Education.
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I think that alot of black people dont go republican because they dont know anything about them except that they are 4 WHITE people.
But really they are about family values, christian living, and hard work. Alot of us are 4 that anyways.
Democrats got more of a "what-can-the-party-do-4-me" vibe.
Im not down with either. -
When republicans give us black people a million dollars then MAYBE
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blakfyahking wrote: »Colin Powell>>>>>>>all you average mofos calling cuzzo a sell-out
you wouldn't see mofos doing ? in politics for real if it wasn't for him
the rest of the black republicans....................? em
ironically black people are very republican when it comes to values, but the blatant racism and ? up by Repubs keeps black folks voting democratic
even tho Dems are just as racist
C/S the bolded
That's why I laugh whenever people tell me they are Democrats but share the views as Republicans -
Nothing, we will change to socialists, communists, extremist, Illuminati, etc... before the majority become republican. And thats because as long as democrats and republicans exist, and are really both just two groups who feed ? to their assigned classes, we will as a majority remain poor.
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Scarface (The rapper) has said many times hes a republican.
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FrozenMind wrote: »Scarface (The rapper) has said many times hes a republican.
well that explains "The Unseen" -
Historically the majority of black voters supported the Repub party because they abolished slavery and gave us voting rights. The 1930'? us with the New Deal and that's when things shifted. Until black people start to read and know their history and stop believing myths being passed down from generation to generation they will always stick with the democratic party. I'm INDEPENDENT and until they have one on the voting ballet I'll die before I vote again.
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ether-i-am wrote: »Republicans freed the slaves. Democrates re-enslaved them with welfare and promised handouts.
Once upon a time,
The Democrats were the party of Slavery and Racism.
During the Civil War, many Democrat politicians, like Jefferson Davis, became CSA leaders.
Democrats in the Union States even tried to undermine Lincoln, by calling for "peace" with the Confederacy.
After the Civil War ended,
Southern Democrats became the political arm of the Klu Klux ? .
Federal troops protected the rights of Blacks during Reconstruction,
but after the Republicans traded that away in order to win an election,
The Democrats instituted a system of apartheid, lynching, and pogroms
known as "Jim Crow"
Then,
One day, a man named Martin Luther King Jr. was thrown in jail,
Kennedy visited him, but Nixon did not.
After Kennedy died, his Democratic successor accomplished landmark Civil Rights legislation,
that abolished Jim Crow and its systematic voter suppression.
He did this over the fierce objection of Republican Hero Barry Goldwater,
and most of his Party's Southern wing.
However,
The Democrats paid a heavy price for passing Civil Rights.
Many Democrats who had opposed Civil Rights,
like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms,
switched to the Republican Party.
Eventually, almost all of the segregationists left the Democrats
for the Republican Party.
Republicans exploited this with "The Southern Strategy",
and the Democrats lost their traditional political dominance of the South.
And they all lived Racist Ever After.
The End. -
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(which ironically meant that more Republicans voted for the legislation than Democrats)Swiffness! wrote: »He did this over the fierce objection of Republican Hero Barry Goldwater,
and most of his Party's Southern wing. -
The midcentury was a a time of re-alignment for the parties, especially on racial issues. It's really pointless to talk about what the Democrats did or the Republicans did prior to the 60's because things have changed so much. Disappointing that so much of this thread has focused on that though.
I think what the threadstarter wanted to know is what it would take for black people to support the agenda of the modern Republican party. In the 90's or 2000's, my answer would have been simple: affluence. Black people who have some money and live in wealthy suburban neighborhood will have a very different set of concerns than black people living in the inner city. The few black Republicans I have met were not always rich, but they did tend to live in suburban areas and make a comfortable living. Typically, they didn't fight their way out of the ghetto either. It was usually their parents, meaning suburban life is all they ever knew. It makes them more empathetic to Republican ideas like cutting domestic spending and arguments against the need for affirmative action. They also often related to the Christian right. During the early days of the 2008 primary, I noticed that even with Obamania beginning to catch on, you would see a black person here and there supporting Republican candidate Mike Huckabee, who is a minister.
But now the Republican party is going in another direction, it seems. The Christian Right that dominated the GOP during the 90s and through W's presidency are losing ground to the Tea Party and their ilk. I'm not sure how these same black republicans of years past will feel if this becomes the Republican mainstream. They're less concerned with the social values that brought some black christians to the GOP, and have gone from a reasonable desire to limit the federal government to an all out hatred for federal involvement in anything, reminiscent of the Jim Crow south. The main concern, as it see it though, would be that their desire to apply the literal views of the Founding Fathers to modern day America. When reminded that the founding fathers were slave owners, they brush it off because "that was a different time", but judging from everything else they say, it seems they don't really get that it was a different time. -
black people kills eminem, and then become republicans to get rid of some of the tension.
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Love letters from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and the Tea party.
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Blacks don't support Republicans for several reasons two that come to mind are
1)The history associated with them
2)The image of them being the ones who work in the interests of big corporations and neglect inner cities
True.
I will never be a Republican because I just don't agree with the Republican ideology. But the reasons you provided have something to do with that as well. Atleast the Democrats care enough about our vote to pretend to be concerned. -
Iheart~Cali wrote: »True.
I will never be a Republican because I just don't agree with the Republican ideology. But the reasons you provided have something to do with that as well. Atleast the Democrats care enough about our vote to pretend to be concerned.
That's the whole problem I have with the Democratic party
They only look at the black community as guaranteed votes but when it's not election time, they don't seem to care about issues that concern us (failing public schools, higher unemployment rates among blacks,etc) -
the historic shift from the republican party to the democratic party, plus the loyalty of black folks multiplied by the blatantly racist factions of the republican party equals consistent black democratic support. this does not negate the racism not as blatantly inherent in the democratic party. i personally don't like the democratic or republican party. i've mentioned this previously, but, black people are the only 'race' (i hate to use that word, as it's a farce) who do not vote according to their conservative vs liberal beliefs. in other other words, many black folks who vote democrat are very conservative, politically speaking.
anyway, republicans are the devil and democrats are idiots, so, have fun with that. -
CollegeBoi12 wrote: »That's the whole problem I have with the Democratic party
They only look at the black community as guaranteed votes but when it's not election time, they don't seem to care about issues that concern us (failing public schools, higher unemployment rates among blacks,etc)
I don't know if this will comfort you or not, but you're not alone here. I consider myself a real leftist. A progressive if you will. A lot of us were really down with Obama, because he ran a campaign about issues that matter to us: a moral and equitable system of providing healthcare to everyone, social justice and a fighting chance for the little guy, and shift in foreign policy that makes America one of the great world leaders on matters such as human rights. Progressives had to be excited, because he was the first President of either party in a generation to stand for some progressive things, and given the political climate in January 2009, these things were do-able.
Well, look at how things have been since Obama became president. it turns out that the Democrats also take our votes for granted. -
blacks don't have to do anything. Democrats have done a better job @ selling their agenda as being favored towards blacks. Most blacks hate republicans but can't give you a sound reason as to why. They just assume that republicans are bent on destroying blacks
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Condoleeza Rice is not a Republican, but anyway...
Yeah, I'm going to join the party who voted against the Civil Rights Act, made side deals with the Iranians just to sabotage Carter, gave the okay for the CIA to smuggle tons of coke into our communities, allowed 911 ? us up and our economy, launched 2 illegal wars, made the Bill of Rights null and void with the Patriot Act, gave us subprime lending, and outsourced 90% of out productive capacity to people who don't even like us. Oh, and there's more...
Black Republicans.... Ha Ha Ha
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What up Prime Minister. Got a little concern about your post. You said:
"Yeah, I'm going to join the party who voted against the Civil Rights Act, made side deals with the Iranians just to sabotage Carter, gave the okay for the CIA to smuggle tons of coke into our communities, allowed 911 ? us up and our economy, launched 2 illegal wars, made the Bill of Rights null and void with the Patriot Act, gave us subprime lending, and outsourced 90% of out productive capacity to people who don't even like us. Oh, and there's more"
The things in bold apply to both parties, not just the Republicans. Also, things like subprime lending should have been handled with comprehensive regulation. The Republicans may well be the more anti-regulation party of the two, But Bill Clinton was basically just as much of a deregulation guy as the next man, and plenty of Dems in Congress have a record of supporting deregulation.
Also, I don't think the Republicans "allowed" 9/11, nor do I think any Democratic politicians would have seen it coming either.
Also, I don't think anyone had to sabotage Carter. He had it covered on his own.
Also, if the CIA is selling coke to your hood, I highly doubt it's on the authority of the Republican Party. -
The Prime Minister wrote: »Condoleeza Rice is not a Republican, but anyway...
Yeah, I'm going to join the party who voted against the Civil Rights Act, made side deals with the Iranians just to sabotage Carter, gave the okay for the CIA to smuggle tons of coke into our communities, allowed 911 ? us up and our economy, launched 2 illegal wars, made the Bill of Rights null and void with the Patriot Act, gave us subprime lending, and outsourced 90% of out productive capacity to people who don't even like us. Oh, and there's more...
Black Republicans.... Ha Ha Ha
Might wanna get that right
She is a Republican
