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OPINION: Apple is Set to Change Gaming
It's just a matter of time before Apple storms into the console business. And when that happens, everything changes.
April 19, 2012
by Colin Campbell
Apple is coming into the traditional gaming space. It's not even a question of 'if,' only of 'when' and 'how.' And that's the question keeping execs at Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo awake at night, and which must surely be filling games creators with a sense of impending revolution.
This being Apple, there's no shortage of media speculation fueled by the company's own raging secrecy. It doesn't matter that the general feeling of confidence of Apple's impending arrival is entirely lacking solid evidence. The media's arguments as well as those from analysts and investors, are based more on Apple's bulging bag of compelling motivations. In short, it just makes too much sense.
Question is, what can we expect to see?
- Apple Insider
Jobs' biography includes details of his desire to own the TV screen.
Obviously, the idea of Apple creating some sort of disk-based graphical power-box is ludicrous. There's more chance of the company releasing a crystal-set radio than it showing up at E3 and unveiling a shiny plastic thing alongside a first-party shooter. Consoles aren't merely about graphical speed and tech-specs, although these are important. They are also about access and retail power and brand-trust and by these measures, Apple is a monster.
The company has long been rumored to be working on a TV set, and the idea of this being its videogame play is entirely plausible. It's only a 'console' play because we're talking about gaming through the TV screen, in the home. There's no actual console.
Games business analyst Michael Pachter agrees, "For now this is all rumor and speculation. Nothing's been announced. But it's definitely going to happen," he says. "But it won't be a box. And don't expect to see a giant touch-screen iPad being released. Nobody wants to clean their TV screen every day."
Only this week, an Apple TV was the subject of a glowing consumer survey on buying plansA recent report once again raised the prospect of Apple's TV-set, amplified (somehow) by Apple's super-senior exec Tim Cook's alleged visit to Valve. (Note: Valve now says this visit never happened.)
Apple's TV has been mentioned in retail surveys and, only this week, was the subject of a glowing consumer survey on TV buying plans, in which 25 percent of U.S consumers said they find the idea "appealing."
Earlier this month Jefferies analyst Peter Misek dubbed the oft-touted device as 'iPanel' and gave various reasons why he believes it's happening soon, including the movement of TV-like components to Apple manufacturing partners in Asia.
Gene Munster, an oft-quoted analyst at Piper Jaffray, cited the TV in a recent projection that Apple's share price could reach $1,000.
Not everyone is convinced, although even those who dismiss the idea of an actual TV-set are happy to note that the next big play will come through the AppleTV device, which does not preclude a games strategy. There's always the possibility of Apple using both a TV set and AppleTV for its foray into lean-back gaming.
Apple has been connecting to TVs for many years
One leading game industry exec (who preferred to remain anonymous) told me, "We know this is happening. Apple has been slow to understand the games business but it gets it now, and it understands consumers. It sees gaps, it comes up with elegant solutions. And the games publishers are ultimately going to be happy whenever Apple opens up new ideas, new markets and new consumers."
The idea of an Apple TV set has been in circulation for a long time, as you can find out by visiting IGN's own Apple TV wiki, wholly dedicated to this long-running rumor. It cites Steve Jobs' famed quote from his biography published after his death. "I'd like to create an integrated television set that is completely easy to use. It would be seamlessly synced with all of your devices and with iCloud.It will have the simplest user interface you could imagine. I finally cracked it."
And yet, despite the vintage of this rumor it bears scrutiny because it's likely that when Apple does arrive, everything changes, just as it did when Apple got into the music and the mobile phones and the mobile games business.
You think Microsoft and Sony are losing sleep over each other's next-gen plans? Not one bitApple is the most important company in the games business, and yet it's the biggest player without a hand in what we should probably still refer to as the 'console' market. Is Apple happy to leave TV-screen gaming to entrenched competitors? Is Apple going to sit back while the fastest growing entertainment sector in the world continues to mushroom? Hardly.
You think Microsoft and Sony are losing sleep over each other's next-gen plans? Not one bit. They're waiting to see what Apple does. They're well aware that it's been 11 years since a serious new player came into the console space, an unprecedented span of time in gaming history, especially given how much the market has grown in the last decade. Sony and Microsoft and even Nintendo also know that there's only one company with the money, energy and power to really destroy their plans.
Apple isn't interested in being in the TV-set business as it currently stands, because it's a miserable scramble for tiny margins conducted by gargoyle-electronics companies like Samsung, LG and, yes, Sony. Nor is it interested in being in the games console business, which is looking increasingly archaic with every passing day.
My source added, "Look, the last thing on Apple's radar is squeezing tiny margins out of consumer electronic devices. The play here is about owning everyone's media buying experience. If you are connected to Apple through your phone, your computer, your tablet and your TV, there's just no way out. It becomes too painful to go anywhere else."
In fact, Apple's play is well beyond words like 'TV' and 'console'. It's in the business of installing a retail outlet in your house, one which connects with all your other devices. It gets to the point where it's virtually impossible for you to leave Apple's entertainment retail combine for a competitor. And gaming is a huge part of that plan.
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It's just a matter of time before Apple storms into the console business. And when that happens, everything changes.
April 19, 2012
by Colin Campbell
Apple is coming into the traditional gaming space. It's not even a question of 'if,' only of 'when' and 'how.' And that's the question keeping execs at Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo awake at night, and which must surely be filling games creators with a sense of impending revolution.
This being Apple, there's no shortage of media speculation fueled by the company's own raging secrecy. It doesn't matter that the general feeling of confidence of Apple's impending arrival is entirely lacking solid evidence. The media's arguments as well as those from analysts and investors, are based more on Apple's bulging bag of compelling motivations. In short, it just makes too much sense.
Question is, what can we expect to see?
- Apple Insider
Jobs' biography includes details of his desire to own the TV screen.
Obviously, the idea of Apple creating some sort of disk-based graphical power-box is ludicrous. There's more chance of the company releasing a crystal-set radio than it showing up at E3 and unveiling a shiny plastic thing alongside a first-party shooter. Consoles aren't merely about graphical speed and tech-specs, although these are important. They are also about access and retail power and brand-trust and by these measures, Apple is a monster.
The company has long been rumored to be working on a TV set, and the idea of this being its videogame play is entirely plausible. It's only a 'console' play because we're talking about gaming through the TV screen, in the home. There's no actual console.
Games business analyst Michael Pachter agrees, "For now this is all rumor and speculation. Nothing's been announced. But it's definitely going to happen," he says. "But it won't be a box. And don't expect to see a giant touch-screen iPad being released. Nobody wants to clean their TV screen every day."
Only this week, an Apple TV was the subject of a glowing consumer survey on buying plansA recent report once again raised the prospect of Apple's TV-set, amplified (somehow) by Apple's super-senior exec Tim Cook's alleged visit to Valve. (Note: Valve now says this visit never happened.)
Apple's TV has been mentioned in retail surveys and, only this week, was the subject of a glowing consumer survey on TV buying plans, in which 25 percent of U.S consumers said they find the idea "appealing."
Earlier this month Jefferies analyst Peter Misek dubbed the oft-touted device as 'iPanel' and gave various reasons why he believes it's happening soon, including the movement of TV-like components to Apple manufacturing partners in Asia.
Gene Munster, an oft-quoted analyst at Piper Jaffray, cited the TV in a recent projection that Apple's share price could reach $1,000.
Not everyone is convinced, although even those who dismiss the idea of an actual TV-set are happy to note that the next big play will come through the AppleTV device, which does not preclude a games strategy. There's always the possibility of Apple using both a TV set and AppleTV for its foray into lean-back gaming.
Apple has been connecting to TVs for many years
One leading game industry exec (who preferred to remain anonymous) told me, "We know this is happening. Apple has been slow to understand the games business but it gets it now, and it understands consumers. It sees gaps, it comes up with elegant solutions. And the games publishers are ultimately going to be happy whenever Apple opens up new ideas, new markets and new consumers."
The idea of an Apple TV set has been in circulation for a long time, as you can find out by visiting IGN's own Apple TV wiki, wholly dedicated to this long-running rumor. It cites Steve Jobs' famed quote from his biography published after his death. "I'd like to create an integrated television set that is completely easy to use. It would be seamlessly synced with all of your devices and with iCloud.It will have the simplest user interface you could imagine. I finally cracked it."
And yet, despite the vintage of this rumor it bears scrutiny because it's likely that when Apple does arrive, everything changes, just as it did when Apple got into the music and the mobile phones and the mobile games business.
You think Microsoft and Sony are losing sleep over each other's next-gen plans? Not one bitApple is the most important company in the games business, and yet it's the biggest player without a hand in what we should probably still refer to as the 'console' market. Is Apple happy to leave TV-screen gaming to entrenched competitors? Is Apple going to sit back while the fastest growing entertainment sector in the world continues to mushroom? Hardly.
You think Microsoft and Sony are losing sleep over each other's next-gen plans? Not one bit. They're waiting to see what Apple does. They're well aware that it's been 11 years since a serious new player came into the console space, an unprecedented span of time in gaming history, especially given how much the market has grown in the last decade. Sony and Microsoft and even Nintendo also know that there's only one company with the money, energy and power to really destroy their plans.
Apple isn't interested in being in the TV-set business as it currently stands, because it's a miserable scramble for tiny margins conducted by gargoyle-electronics companies like Samsung, LG and, yes, Sony. Nor is it interested in being in the games console business, which is looking increasingly archaic with every passing day.
My source added, "Look, the last thing on Apple's radar is squeezing tiny margins out of consumer electronic devices. The play here is about owning everyone's media buying experience. If you are connected to Apple through your phone, your computer, your tablet and your TV, there's just no way out. It becomes too painful to go anywhere else."
In fact, Apple's play is well beyond words like 'TV' and 'console'. It's in the business of installing a retail outlet in your house, one which connects with all your other devices. It gets to the point where it's virtually impossible for you to leave Apple's entertainment retail combine for a competitor. And gaming is a huge part of that plan.
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Apple has the power to change everything.
The company is interested in owning the entertainment business through this crucial portal, the TV screen. It wants to complete the circle of handheld Phone and desktop computer and portable in-house iPad and TV
Speculation on the nature of the TV is not hard to find. It will attempt to re-invent the TV experience through an app-like online environment which will also integrate traditional viewing and economic models. It will feature a new kind of interface that takes us beyond the remote control, using a mixture of Siri voice control, Kinect-like manipulation and iPhone / iPad integration. It will be stylish and expensive, very obviously aimed at elite urban media consumers.
It will be heavily geared towards the connected, social generation, not as an afterthought but as a core principle. As media commentator Brian Solis says in an editorial today, the future of TV is all about integration with other screens, like the computer and mobile devics, and it's here where Apple has the most to gain. Solis writes, "Connected consumers don't just expect online, on-demand streaming optimized for each device. They expect to engage in each screen differently and in a dynamic way." There is currently a hole in Apple's multi-screen strategy, right in the corner of your living room. Unless you believe the TV is going away, it's a screen that Apple needs to own.
Apple understands that retail is finished as far as game distribution goesThe screen must come with some sort of traditional games controller. Rumor has it that Apple has been visiting core game developers to talk about a new controller and while it's possible that this might be restricted to the company's handheld gaming business, some alternative to the limitations of touch-screen, this does not preclude a standardized games controlling device.
It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that the iPad, or some version of it, will be the controller. A touch-screen controller is an idea Nintendo has already jumped on with Wii U.
It's tempting to consider again the so-called connection between Apple and Valve. Is it right that iTunes has something to learn from Steam, that Apple (like the rest of us) has something to learn from Valve's extraordinary culture? The idea of a Steam-cloud hovering over Apple devices is pretty neat.
Apple understands that retail is finished as far as game distribution goes, and it is not about to allow some other Steam-like outfit to out-iTunes its own ambitions. Steam is now the biggest retailer of PC games in the United States. The console companies and the likes of EA and Activision are gearing their business plans towards selling content through the screen. If games is the biggest entertainment business in the world, it takes the biggest company in the world to step in, dominate rivals and change everything with a bold stroke.
As well as offering games as downloadable apps, it may also consider an OnLive / Gaikai- style streaming service for top-end games.
This is where Apple's likely plans become especially murky. If the Apple TV comes with a good enough chip to play, say, games of an iPad 3 graphical quality, that will satisfy a large proportion of the market. But it won't satisfy the kind of players who want to play Crysis 3. Will Apple seek to handle this kind of game through a cloud-gaming solution, or will it cede the ? end of the market to established players? As yet, we just don't know, although Apple's history with games suggests that it isn't especially concerned with the Call of Duty player, when there are so many Angry Birds players ready and willing to part with their cash.
Michael Pachter says the company may decide to hedge, beginning with a fairly basic 'casual' play and then ramping up with more intense tech solutions as the infrastructure becomes available. Undoubtedly, cloud gaming is evolving rapidly and solves a lot of the issues Apple might have with stuffing its gadget with graphics chips.
Owning screens is what Apple has been doing this past decade. More to the point, it (along with Facebook) has created a massively successful communication platform in which games are the dominant factor. If they enter the console / TV market, the guys at Apple face tough competition. But do you want to bet against them?
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In May 2006, the Pippin placed 22nd in PC World Magazine's list of the "25 Worst Tech Products of all Time.
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Even if Apple jumps into gaming they aint taking market share from Nintendo. When Microsoft first hopped into gaming everyone thought the same thing but to date Microsoft has YET to put a dent in Nintendo. Apple is cool but they don't have the team, experienc established e or competitive advantage to contend with Nintendo or even Microsoft. They can and probably will make a console or design studio but it's gonna take them AGES to catch up and even be felt as a presence.
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Even if Apple jumps into gaming they aint taking market share from Nintendo. When Microsoft first hopped into gaming everyone thought the same thing but to date Microsoft has YET to put a dent in Nintendo. Apple is cool but they don't have the team, experience or established competitive advantage to contend with Nintendo or even Microsoft. They can and probably will make a console or design studio but it's gonna take them AGES to catch up and even be felt as a presence.
Maybe not Nintendo but Sony is sure feeling it.
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SnowBunnySmanger wrote: »Even if Apple jumps into gaming they aint taking market share from Nintendo. When Microsoft first hopped into gaming everyone thought the same thing but to date Microsoft has YET to put a dent in Nintendo. Apple is cool but they don't have the team, experience or established competitive advantage to contend with Nintendo or even Microsoft. They can and probably will make a console or design studio but it's gonna take them AGES to catch up and even be felt as a presence.
Maybe not Nintendo but Sony is sure feeling it.
Nintendo as well
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/29/nintendo-slashes-3ds-price/
* Nintendo slashed the price of its 3DS handheld system by roughly one-third (from $250 to $170) because of lower-than-expected sales during the first three months. The gaming company also lowered its annual profit forecast by a stunning 82%. President Satoru Iwata said in an online letter it was the first time Nintendo has cut prices so much within the first six months of a product's launch. The cut comes during a time when the gaming industry is affected by mobile games on multi-purpose devices by companies like Apple and social games from more recent companies including Zynga. (Wall Street Journal and New York Times)
Apple is the Borg of the tech world... Resistance is Futile.... -
Damn..
Apple is now bigger than Microsoft and Google combined - and worth more than the gross domestic product of Sweden
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2099511/Apple-worth-Microsoft-Google-combined.html#ixzz1sdRrq1HQ -
Bill Gates is kicking himself for saving Apple from Bankruptcy
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Jesus christ these corporations are too damn big. But If Apple is going into gaming, M$ and Sony are gonna feel the pain.
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i'd quit gaming before i'd give money to apple for a console.
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earth two superman wrote: »Read? Didn't.Lou Cypher wrote: »Ah man thats cool!
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SnowBunnySmanger wrote: »
Does the Pippin really count? Apple only designed it, it was one of those 3DO type deals where they made a hardware standard, but other companies actually made the thing.
I remember wanting one of these back in the day, but finding one of them joints in an actual store was next to impossible.
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SnowBunnySmanger wrote: »Even if Apple jumps into gaming they aint taking market share from Nintendo. When Microsoft first hopped into gaming everyone thought the same thing but to date Microsoft has YET to put a dent in Nintendo. Apple is cool but they don't have the team, experience or established competitive advantage to contend with Nintendo or even Microsoft. They can and probably will make a console or design studio but it's gonna take them AGES to catch up and even be felt as a presence.
Maybe not Nintendo but Sony is sure feeling it.
Nintendo as well
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/29/nintendo-slashes-3ds-price/
* Nintendo slashed the price of its 3DS handheld system by roughly one-third (from $250 to $170) because of lower-than-expected sales during the first three months. The gaming company also lowered its annual profit forecast by a stunning 82%. President Satoru Iwata said in an online letter it was the first time Nintendo has cut prices so much within the first six months of a product's launch. The cut comes during a time when the gaming industry is affected by mobile games on multi-purpose devices by companies like Apple and social games from more recent companies including Zynga. (Wall Street Journal and New York Times)
Apple is the Borg of the tech world... Resistance is Futile....
Actually no, Satoru never said that. If you read the annual report from the company - the cost of the 3DS is what hurt Nintendo and also Japan's tough economic climate right now (3D technology is not cheap). Name me 10 social media games that you know of that were top sellers.... don't worry I'll wait LOLOL. They don't compete with Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft, I have yet to here a heterosexual male say he wants to quit playing Halo or Mass Effect 3 so he can go run some Farmville or some ? SMH.
Apple has money it's true but they dont have the team or studios to compete with Microsoft or Nintendo. When Microsoft first announced they would be entering gaming these ? had enough money to buy Nintendo and Sony together LOLOL not to mention they had Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Paul Allen ALL working night and day to beat Nintendo and Sony. They had the richest man in the world and some of the best and brightest minds in the world and still couldn't take out Nintendo or Playstation 2.
As Warren Buffett says, you want a company with a good strong moat/competitive advantage that's highly durable and near impenetrable. Nintendo has that.
LMAO!! The price of 3DS was the problem your right....IN COMPARISON TO WHAT?? Ipod Touches, Iphones and iPads. You'll wait? Wait for what?? Ever hear of Angry Birds? DrawSomething? WordswithFriends? Top 10 in comparison to what?? DrawSomething has 50 Million downloads ? ...and that ? just came on the scene recently. What hole have you stuck your head in? Oh I'm sorry being a dude who spends 15 to 20 hours a day playing Halo or Mass Effect is definitely more MASCULIN and hetero than some who plays Farmville. Are you listening to yourself?
Even Reggie knows whats up...
“It’s all about time,” Fils-Aime said during a stop by Forbes’ San Francisco offices Thursday. “I compete with Zynga, I compete with surfing the net, I compete with the newspaper.
If you want to find someone doing that kind of volume you’ve got to look outside the game business. At, say, Apple, which is pushing games on the iPhone and iPod touch. Apple sold more 14.1 million iPhones alone during the quarter ending in September. “Do I think that in the near term they can hurt us more than Microsoft?” Fils-Aime says. “Absolutely.”
And all this was in 2010...we all know what Nintendo's finances look like now.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2010/10/21/apple-bigger-near-term-threat-than-microsoft-nintendo-of-america-president-says/
LMAO at Bill Gates, Paul Allen and Steve Balmer sweating away trying to beat the PS3. Have you lost your mind ? , you think Bill Gates gives two ? about Xbox/PS3/Wii? Every heard of WINDOWS ? ?? Thats what BG and Paul Allen give a ? about. -
? tend to forget how long Nintendo been in this business. Nintendo got money that'll last them another life time. Sega anybody?
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A couple years ago, Apple and Android had ZERO market share in the portable gaming biz. Now its iOS and Android's time in the sun. Who knows what the future will hold. Nintendo and Sony has been around for a long time, but then again so has/had Kodak, Woolworth, etc...Sony just had terrible leadership under Howard Stringer who emphasized cost-cutting instead of spurring innovation. They should have elevated Kutaragi instead of Kaz. Stringer set the company back 30 years. There are many things working against Sony (and many Japanese companies) at this moment (abysmal domestic economic growth for the last 10 years, hubris, branding, etc).
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biggyboy_karl wrote: »Man, iOS and Android is not real gaming. My mother isn't a gamer because she plays Angry Birds and Cut The Rope.
FOHWTBS.
Fohwtbs Nintendo's claim to fame this generation with having your mother Wii bowling and your entire clan playing Just Dance.
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SnowBunnySmanger wrote: »Even if Apple jumps into gaming they aint taking market share from Nintendo. When Microsoft first hopped into gaming everyone thought the same thing but to date Microsoft has YET to put a dent in Nintendo. Apple is cool but they don't have the team, experience or established competitive advantage to contend with Nintendo or even Microsoft. They can and probably will make a console or design studio but it's gonna take them AGES to catch up and even be felt as a presence.
Maybe not Nintendo but Sony is sure feeling it.
Nintendo as well
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/29/nintendo-slashes-3ds-price/
* Nintendo slashed the price of its 3DS handheld system by roughly one-third (from $250 to $170) because of lower-than-expected sales during the first three months. The gaming company also lowered its annual profit forecast by a stunning 82%. President Satoru Iwata said in an online letter it was the first time Nintendo has cut prices so much within the first six months of a product's launch. The cut comes during a time when the gaming industry is affected by mobile games on multi-purpose devices by companies like Apple and social games from more recent companies including Zynga. (Wall Street Journal and New York Times)
Apple is the Borg of the tech world... Resistance is Futile....
Actually no, Satoru never said that. If you read the annual report from the company - the cost of the 3DS is what hurt Nintendo and also Japan's tough economic climate right now (3D technology is not cheap). Name me 10 social media games that you know of that were top sellers.... don't worry I'll wait LOLOL. They don't compete with Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft, I have yet to here a heterosexual male say he wants to quit playing Halo or Mass Effect 3 so he can go run some Farmville or some ? SMH.
Apple has money it's true but they dont have the team or studios to compete with Microsoft or Nintendo. When Microsoft first announced they would be entering gaming these ? had enough money to buy Nintendo and Sony together LOLOL not to mention they had Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Paul Allen ALL working night and day to beat Nintendo and Sony. They had the richest man in the world and some of the best and brightest minds in the world and still couldn't take out Nintendo or Playstation 2.
As Warren Buffett says, you want a company with a good strong moat/competitive advantage that's highly durable and near impenetrable. Nintendo has that.
LMAO!! The price of 3DS was the problem your right....IN COMPARISON TO WHAT?? Ipod Touches, Iphones and iPads. You'll wait? Wait for what?? Ever hear of Angry Birds? DrawSomething? WordswithFriends? Top 10 in comparison to what?? DrawSomething has 50 Million downloads ? ...and that ? just came on the scene recently. What hole have you stuck your head in? Oh I'm sorry being a dude who spends 15 to 20 hours a day playing Halo or Mass Effect is definitely more MASCULIN and hetero than some who plays Farmville. Are you listening to yourself?
Even Reggie knows whats up...
“It’s all about time,” Fils-Aime said during a stop by Forbes’ San Francisco offices Thursday. “I compete with Zynga, I compete with surfing the net, I compete with the newspaper.
If you want to find someone doing that kind of volume you’ve got to look outside the game business. At, say, Apple, which is pushing games on the iPhone and iPod touch. Apple sold more 14.1 million iPhones alone during the quarter ending in September. “Do I think that in the near term they can hurt us more than Microsoft?” Fils-Aime says. “Absolutely.”
And all this was in 2010...we all know what Nintendo's finances look like now.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2010/10/21/apple-bigger-near-term-threat-than-microsoft-nintendo-of-america-president-says/
LMAO at Bill Gates, Paul Allen and Steve Balmer sweating away trying to beat the PS3. Have you lost your mind ? , you think Bill Gates gives two ? about Xbox/PS3/Wii? Every heard of WINDOWS ? ?? Thats what BG and Paul Allen give a ? about.
LOOLOLOLOL maaaaan listen here cuh....
Fam the 3DS don't compete directly with the iPhone or iPad, the cost of using 3D technology is expensive as hell, ask Sony's electronics division they'll tell you the same. Regardless they still sold very well but the cost is too excessive.
I'm sayin tho Famlay.... Apple would be formidable competition just as how Microsoft and Sony (RIP) were LOLOL. But they're not going to take that 60% market share from Nintendo. MS couldn't do it with Gates, Ballmer and Allen and all the money in the world (they got a wee bit but still couldnt beat em like Gates said they would) and Apple definitely won't do it with no Steve Jobs (no diss) LOLOLOL.
Angry Birds psshh, you ever heardz of pokemanz n/h, Links, Mario, wii sportz, smash bros n/h, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, Big Brainz Academy !??!!!?? but I commend my fellow COO Reggie for not being complacent and acknowledging competition no matter how large
but how long ya gonna keep remixing the iPad & iPhone before people get sick and tired of it especially when it can't top past sales ?? Steve Jobs aint around no mo ? THE GAME BELONG TO NINTENDO !!!!! ITS UP TO YOU !!! YOU CAN GET DOWN OR LAY DOWN FAM !!!!
Nintendo is already dying...what hole have you been under? Nintendo reported its first major loss in HISTORY $535 Million...when did Microsoft or Sony ever accomplish that....NOW i'll wait. You want to talk market share...lets look at Market Share
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/77424/Is-it-Game-Over-for-Nintendo-DS-and-Sony-PSP
The 3DS sold really well?? Are you serious??
Nintendo cut its forecast for annual sales of its ageing Wii console to 10 million devices from 12 million, and for the 3DS handheld games device to 14 million from 16 million.
"We had higher expectations for the year-end season, but failed to meet them," President Satoru Iwata told reporters in Osaka.
Poor sales forced Nintendo to slash the price of its much-anticipated 3DS handheld games device in August, just six months after its launch.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/26/us-nintendo-results-idUSTRE80P0BQ20120126
Just stop your really out of your depth here.
You want to talk about remixing the iPad and IPod Touch?? How many ? versions of the DS are we going to get?? iPad and iPhone sales not topping past sales???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH.....wow I'm done!!
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/03/20/apple-sets-a-new-ipad-sales-record/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/10/iphone-4s-posts-record-4-million-units-sales-in-first-weekend.ars
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A couple years ago, Apple and Android had ZERO market share in the portable gaming biz. Now its iOS and Android's time in the sun. Who knows what the future will hold. Nintendo and Sony has been around for a long time, but then again so has/had Kodak, Woolworth, etc...Sony just had terrible leadership under Howard Stringer who emphasized cost-cutting instead of spurring innovation. They should have elevated Kutaragi instead of Kaz. Stringer set the company back 30 years. There are many things working against Sony (and many Japanese companies) at this moment (abysmal domestic economic growth for the last 10 years, hubris, branding, etc).
That's not legit market share HUGE difference between using revenue versus more conventional means. Apple has revenues of $100 billion dollars and Nintendo has revenues of $12 billion dollars. So automatically if you're going to compare by revenue the numbers are already gonna be in your favor being that your the bigger business as there's more people in the world who own smart phones versus Nintendo DS or PSPs. Besides doesn't Microsoft have android products ? The use of the information in the pie chart is flawed.
Guys, what I'm trying to say is, Apple is NOT in the gaming business, it's great that they make smartphones and iPads, that's great. Same as how Microsoft is great at making Windows programs but they are not gaming companies. They don't have Steve Jobs anymore, they can milk the iPhone & iPad products for the next 1-3 years but what about the next 5 to 10 years going ? You have to top that or it's going to get old. Jobs was the brainchild for that company and without him their future is still in doubt.
Yall gotta understand, Nintendo has been around for almost 200 years. Nobody is saying that Apple won't be able to get some market share, they will just as Microsoft and Sony did but what I'm saying is that they will NOT beat Nintendo. Nintendo has a competitive advantage that you can't take from them. Sony in their prime tried in the 90s and couldn't do it, MS tried in the 2000s with $30 billion dollars, Bill Gates and the dream team but couldn't do it.
It's possible but iuno I think it's highly unlikely to happen in our lifetime.
Wrong...read the article
The chart displays the share of U.S. revenue generated for portable games from 2009 to 2011. Note that we project November and December for 2011, based on their ratio to the first 10 months of the year, as observed in 2009 and 2010. Starting on the left, for 2009, we calculate $2.7 billion in total U.S. portable game revenue. For 2010 and 2011, we estimate $2.5 billion and $3.3 billion, respectively.
If Nintendo wants to survive they need to go the sego route and develop iOS versions of their games...like I said GET DOWN or LAY DOWN. -
Smartphone/tablet devices have become disruptive technologies. Using your logic, you can say that phones aren't dedicated photo capturing devices like cameras, but smartphones are THE reason for decline of camera sales along with entirely changing the world of phototaking, editing, and publishing. Lets not even bring up sales of GPS units..Nintendo is heavily reliant on the domestic market. Japan's economy has been mired in ? , and the decline of gaming over there has been well documented on both sides of the Pacific. Despite Sony's woes, at leadt they have other divisions that can help if their gaming division gets jettisoned.
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Apple is a beast financially. Not too too far behind is M$, then Nintendo. They all have billions in the bank and are all prepared to fight and win. Sony though...THATS your SEGA. That's who needs to start developing for iOS. They literally do not have the money to handle a new competitor, especially not Apple. The PS4 would get Dreamcasted.
