aye..yall paying attention to the way the jews in israel are treating africans?

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there was a guy here a whiloe back posting bout how the jews love the black man and the african lol..forgot his name..fkk the jews bro







Israel to African immigrants: 'You're not welcome here'

Simon Allison
25 May 2012 06:26 (South Africa)

There’s a problem in Israel, and for once it doesn’t have much to do with Palestine. Instead, right-wing Israelis have found a new target: black African immigrants, otherwise known as the ‘cancer’ that threatens to “destroy our country”.

Tel Aviv is known as Israel’s liberal capital. But it’s not that liberal, though parts of it are wildly left-wing compared to the rest of the country. Thousands of people marched in Tel Aviv demanding that Africans return to Africa, and their views are being echoed at the highest levels. Here you’ll see ? couples walking hand in hand, beaches where no one even attempts modesty and a proliferation of non-kosher restaurants. Strolling along the city’s Red Sea promenade, it’s easy to forget that all those big issues that would define modern Israel: Palestine, Zionism, religion, the Holocaust.

But, perhaps befitting a city that prides itself on its European rather than Middle Eastern feel, Tel Aviv is experiencing a distinctly European phenomenon: A vicious, visceral backlash against immigrants and immigration, aimed squarely at the black Africans who once found refuge in Israel.

On Wednesday, thousands of people attended a rally with a simple message: Immigrants, get out. Haaretz journalist David Sheen reported that demonstrators chanted “The people demand the expulsion of the infiltrators”, “We have come to expunge the darkness”, and “Tel Aviv is for Jews. Sudan is for Sudanese.”

Sudanese immigrants came in for particular abuse. Mostly from southern Sudan, tens of thousands of Sudanese fled to Israel to escape the long and brutal civil war in their own country. But now their place of refuge is turning against them, and against the Eritreans and Ethiopians who together make up the bulk of African immigration into Israel.

Almost inevitably given the potent mix of fear and hate, the demonstration turned violent, and at least 12 black men and women were attacked by the crowd. A grocery store servicing migrants was trashed, and one white, Jewish woman, who bravely disagreed with the demonstration’s sentiments, was told she deserved to be ? .

This kind of response to immigration is not unique to Israel. As Kevin Bloom pointed out in the Daily Maverick on Wednesday, xenophobia and anti-immigrant feeling is rife across Europe, North America and here in South Africa. But Israel, he argues, gets into more trouble because established media tends to view everything Israel does with suspicion. He has a point; the rhetoric about immigrants stealing jobs, bringing down property prices and in general being a drain on society is familiar no matter where the problem arises.

But there is a subtle difference to Israeli complaints about immigrants, one that is enunciated even at government level. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, warned recently that “illegal infiltrators flooding the country” posed an existential threat to Israel itself: “If we don't stop their entry, the problem that currently stands at 60,000 could grow to 600,000 and that threatens our existence as a Jewish and democratic state,” he said.

Interior minister Eli Yishai, told an audience in April “There is no place in the world as good for foreign workers as the state of Israel”. This comment is not intended positively; he says foreign workers are treated too well, arguing that they should be denied maternity leave and forced to return to their own country to have babies. Because – obviously – foreign babies jeopardise national security. As he explained in a previous comment from 2009, immigrants’ children are “liable to damage the state's Jewish identity, constitute a demographic threat and increase the danger of assimilation”.

The underlying theme in all this is a fear that Israel’s identity is being diluted and that the country’s Jewishness – the identity that defines the state itself – will be fatally undermined. There are parallels to this in Israel’s relationship with Palestine and Palestinians. A recent court decision denied Israeli Arabs the right to live in Israel with their spouses from the Palestinian territories, with one of the judges describing the consequences of allowing such cross-border cohabitation as akin to “national suicide”.

Israel’s fear of immigrants, be they Palestinian or African, is intrinsically linked to their fears for the future of Israel. In this it’s not unlike apartheid South Africa, where – according to blogger Ben White, who dug up some old headlines – the ‘national suicide’ line about protecting the purity of the governing race was used. Read the National Party’s 1948 statement justifying apartheid: “…either we must follow the course of equality, which must eventually mean national suicide for the white race, or we must take the course of separation”. If this sounds eerily similar to the phrasing used by Israeli politicians today, it’s because both apartheid South Africa and Israel are countries founded on a specific identity – whiteness in South Africa’s case, and Jewishness for Israel. Any threat to this identity through assimilation, integration and dilution is more than just a cultural or social challenge. Instead, it is an attack on the state, which must respond.

Israel’s response so far has been to up the pace and scope of deportations and to begin construction on the world’s largest detention centre for asylum seekers and illegal immigrants. Some politicians would have the country opt for more extreme measures, such as fencing off all its borders and physically preventing people from entering its territory – a measure already in place on the border between Israel and the Palestinian West Bank. But the experience of countries such as the US, Italy, France and Britain shows there is not much anyone can do to stop a determined immigrant, fleeing poverty or conflict for the dream of a better, safer life.

Instead, Israel should probably work on a solution that doesn’t involve trying to dam the flood or turn back the river. As Steven Klein wrote for Haaretz: “The best way forward is to accept our new burden as a reality and learn from the lessons of Europe’s failed detention facility policies. The sad reality is Israel’s leaders are too xenophobic to see that their policy is the true long-term threat to the effort to manage the migrant issue.” DM
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  • 2nd chances
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    http://www.rt.com/news/israel-anti-migrant-demo-061/


    Thousands of Israelis, including high-profile politicians, attended an anti-African demonstration in Tel Aviv. The rally turned violent, with attacks on Africans and grocery shop windows being smashed.

    ­The gathering, which took place in Tel Aviv’s Hatikva neighborhood, targeted the influx of African asylum seekers and was organized by Michael Ben Ari, a Knesset member from the National Union party, along with far-right activists Itamar Ben-Guir and Baruch Marzel, Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports.

    Many protesters also blamed the government, and Benjamin Netanyahu specifically, for inaction.

    But the rally was also attended by politicians from the ruling Likud party, including Knesset members Miri Regev and Danny Danon.

    Former army brigadier general and Israeli Defense Forces spokeswoman Regev described asylum seekers as a “cancer in our body.”

    On Thursday, Regev explained that her use of the word "cancer" was meant "to illustrate the spread of a negative phenomenon. This is a manifestation of rage that has been unleashed after a long time of people feeling unsafe in their own homes."

    "With all due respect to the Left and Peace Now – they are the reason that our country is in the state it's in. Because of their High Court petitions we cannot deport all those infiltrators to their countries of origin," she reportedly charged.

    Danon also said the “infiltrators” had to be immediately expelled from Israel.

    “We should not be afraid to say the words 'expulsion now,'” Danon was reported as saying.

    The crowd carried signs proclaiming messages such as “This is not Africa” and “Stop talking, start expelling.”

    But as the sun set the rally turned violent, with demonstrators attacking at least a dozen African men and women who were unfortunate enough to be near the scene. They also smashed the shop front of a grocery store that served the migrant workers, subsequently looting it. Demonstrators also broke the window of a cab driven by a suspected African migrant worker. A bonfire was also lit up in the street. Seventeen people were reportedly arrested.

    On Thursday, Peace Now Chairman Yariv Oppenheimer asked the Attorney General to launch an investigation against MKs Regev, Danon and Ben-Ari for incitement to violence.

    He claimed that "the MKs' racist calls and incitement to violence were quickly translated into action on the ground."

    MKs denied they condoned violence, with MK Danon reportedly saying: "Violence is not a solution. The real pogrom is the one that happens daily against the residents of south Tel Aviv."

    The rage of those who attended the rally seems to reflect a growing intolerance of the incoming African asylum seekers and migrant workers, even among those in the highest ranks of power.

    On Sunday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his ministers that the phenomenon of “illegal work infiltrators” was “very grave,” and that it “threatened the social fabric of society,” Israel’s national security and national identity. He also warned that unless action is taken, the migrants could “inundate” the country and “cancel out its image as a Jewish and democratic state.”

    Netanyahu’s words were strongly supported by Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who called for the deportation of asylum seekers.

    Thousands of migrants from Eritrea and South Sudan came to Israel, saying they wanted to escape the poverty and political instability at home. Most of them are headed for Europe, but are unable to use their traditional path through Libya because of the ongoing post-civil war strife in the country. Once in Israel, they are looked after by local NGOs and the UN High Commission for Refugees. Most of them settle in Tel Aviv.

    The government has been trying to deport refugees from South Sudan back to their homeland, but the motion was halted by the Jerusalem District Court. The court issued a temporary order prohibiting the deportation until it rules on a petition filed by five human rights organization against the state’s decision to deport the immigrants, arguing that their lives may be endangered if they return home. Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein is set to appear before the court next week to argue that there is no legal obstacle to the expulsion, as individual checks will show that none of the immigrants face any threats to their lives back South Sudan.
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    African immigrants drive a car whose windows were shattered by Israeli protesters in Tel Aviv on May 23, 2012 (AFP Photo / Roni Schutzer)
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    An Israeli woman holding a placard reading ′′Yesterday, it was my daudther, tomorrow is your daugther ′′ as hundreds of people demonstrate in the impoverished Hatikva neighborhood of the southern Mediterranean city of Tel Aviv on May 23, 2012(AFP Photo / Roni Schutzer)Israel Out)
    An Israeli woman holding a placard reading ''Yesterday, it was my daudther, tomorrow is your daugther '' as hundreds of people demonstrate in the impoverished Hatikva neighborhood of the southern Mediterranean city of Tel Aviv on May 23, 2012(AFP Photo / Roni Schutzer)Israel Out)

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  • Chef_Taylor
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    Let iran get this nuclear plant going...they gonna wipe israel off the face of this earth.Israel, that was where they was talking slick ? about obama...they said he wasnt welcome their.
  • BoldChild
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    "? 's chosen people" need to be exterminated.
  • gns
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    But yet these craccas dont understand y the palestinians never wanted they ass over there.
    Complaining about immigrants,the ? they think they are to middle-easterners....naturalized citizens??
  • edwardnigma
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    Ain't this some ? , ? Israel is in africa.....

    Israeli do not belong there, they aren't even African these ? come from German Polish and

    Roman families. Black People on the other hand all over the globe need to wake up....Maybe e do need a

    messiah type. A Pac, an Ali, just one ? to set the example for ? to follow suit.

    Cause I don't know what to say about these ? that don't fight back.

    It's like we've taken the p;osition of being 2nd class citizens in every nation.

    Imagine a bunch of white people settling land in Japan or China then tellling the Japanese and Chinese

    they are not welcome on the land they come from. ? need to wake up.

    Good thread by the way.
  • In Your Moms Room
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    if they got a problem, strap up and go to war. they get no pity.
  • MrSoutCity
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    Its ? up how this isn't on the news. Let it be some other race doing that to the filthy ass Jews it would be all over the place.
  • Lou Cypher
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    Sup with the jews that have dreads and sound all Rasta like? what kind of jew is that?
  • caddo man
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    ? is bad. The same thing is happening in Italy! Remember North Africa been acting up against dark skinned Africans too. ? is real in the field. Funny thing is it is mostly Russian and european Jews that are doing the beatings. I was over there in 98. Outside of the tourist areas, I aint trying to get caught out there again.
  • Chef_Taylor
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    caddo man wrote: »
    ? is bad. The same thing is happening in Italy! Remember North Africa been acting up against dark skinned Africans too. ? is real in the field. Funny thing is it is mostly Russian and european Jews that are doing the beatings. I was over there in 98. Outside of the tourist areas, I aint trying to get caught out there again.

    I was watching a doc. on truetv i cant think of the channel but they was beheading/killing anybody who was black (kids included) in libya a few months back...? was tough to even hear.Just think africans getting treated like ? in africa...they trying to run them out of there own country in some parts of that continent,damn shame.
  • gns
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    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    Sup with the jews that have dreads and sound all Rasta like? what kind of jew is that?

    a fake ass ? ass confused person aka matisyahu

  • Amotekun
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    I been sayin ? those crook nose ? .
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    That their issue to me.


    Every country has a form of genocide occuring. If your gonna play captain save a ? , do something.

    Cause Israel is by far not the only country doing it.

    IMO, it doesnt affect anyone here in America, so why worry unless your heading there to do something.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    um where is Obama ? as much aid as we break off to Israel
  • G Mack
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    Majority of the African Jews basically got invited into Israel...only to treated like trash.
  • High Revolutionary
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    um where is Obama ? as much aid as we break off to Israel

    In the Jews back pocket.

    Not everyone who looks like us is ridin' with us.
  • Amotekun
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    um where is Obama ? as much aid as we break off to Israel

    In the Jews back pocket.

    Not everyone who looks like us is ridin' with us.

    Co-? -sign
  • Kushington
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    No, i am not paying attention to that and i dont give a ? about any of the groups involved

    ...and idk why some of you are mentioning libya, they hate black africans now because gaddafi was problack, he wanted libyans to marry/have kids with black africans and mix into sub sahara africa...he felt libyans should have more in common with the rest of africa, as opposed to the middle east or southern europe...he also used alot of black soldiers in his regime, so the libyans associated black people with their oppression.
  • Lurker6
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    hate to break it to you.......but thats the Jewish extremists stance on everyone in Israel that isnt a jew........smh@ generalizing
  • texas409
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    Damn man and watch when ? start rebelling the entire world will get butthurt and paint the Africans as the villains
  • dalyricalbandit
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    could give to ? about jews
  • caddo man
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    Kushington wrote: »
    No, i am not paying attention to that and i dont give a ? about any of the groups involved

    ...and idk why some of you are mentioning libya, they hate black africans now because gaddafi was problack, he wanted libyans to marry/have kids with black africans and mix into sub sahara africa...he felt libyans should have more in common with the rest of africa, as opposed to the middle east or southern europe...he also used alot of black soldiers in his regime, so the libyans associated black people with their oppression.

    You are right! Now their whole idea of sub-Saharan Africans are tainted.
  • Amotekun
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  • FroHawke
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    It appears the Nazis may have been right
  • J-GUTTA
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    Happy Holocaust Day


    http://youtu.be/gOomBSTTzrU

    There was not 1 single bangable chick in that video. The article posted should have pointed out how it's similar to the Jews not being wanted in 1930's Germany, because the ? 's used a lot of the same rhetoric. I'm not surprised though there is tribes of Jews in Uganda who Orthodox Jews won't recognize as real Jews even though they been practicing Judaism for thousands of years yo.