who thought of this stupid "PG's should only pass" ? ?
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Jeezyfan4ever
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please, tell me. people use this excuse so much when hating on players like westbrook and rose, yet you dont see pass first PG's leading their team to championships often... aside from magic of course, but he was a freak and you can make an equal argument by saying he wasnt the right size to be a PG, therefor he wasnt a true PG.
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position in the nba are overvalued these days. it really doesn't matter like it used to. the roles aren't the same
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theres alot of PF and C's that dont rebound like a traditional big man either....its just people (supposed experts) making judgements based on position instead of skill
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I think the roles still matter. Every team needs a facilitator the facilitator should also be able to defend.
The big forward and the two guard are the positions best suited for scoring the rock (running your offense through). But if you run your offense through the center your pf has to rebound and protect the can like centers traditionally do or he needs to hit the three. Hence why Shaq was surrounded by...Horace grant, haslem, and Horry.
Point and small forward are the hardest positions to excel at (small forward is the least talented position in NBA history, but right now the NBA has melo bron and ? )
The reason why I call Kevin Durant a two is because he can't facilitate your offense. Harden technically is there small forward. He facilitates plays d and/or hits threes. (Traditional threes, bron: facilitate defend, bird: facilitate, shoot, Pippen: facilitate, defend) they are also secondary rebounders and the 2nd option as point guard on the court.
Power forwards extend the offense like twos but in a shallower position on the court. Fours should shoot mid range jumpers, be threats to get to the can and rebounder's. Dirk and K. Love as three point shooting 4s make it hard for the shooting guards on their team to excel. Because they crowd their space. (Notice Jordan's fours were always bruisers). Dirk excelled when he started shooting less threes and terry was able to become effective.
Point guards get bad wraps they are allowed to score. They do what needs to be done. But its hard to have the buy bringing it up as your primary scorer. Its easier to defend the team because they become disinterested a lot. Just my thoughts -
Exactly these dudes are fake psuedo sports experts....I don't care what credentials a person has. I don't agree with this. Whats the difference lets say Derrick Rose for example of taking it to the rim and getting the bucket and possibly a foul or dishing it off for a bucket. Same difference really unless its a three point bucket....come on now rose was averging 8 assists a game so it ain't really a matter. Just more experts who show they know know nothing about the game they played for or watched their whole life. Its not their fault they have been indoctrinated
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No different from the "QBs should only stay in the pocket" ? . Especially when forward passes were once illegal.
A QB just "tucking and running" every play or a PG just gunnin' every possession ain't smart either. But supressing your talent just so people can give you some ? stamp of approval is the dumbest ? I've seen within sports.
Whole bunch of QB's and PG's have missed out on alot of winning by trying to just prove something to critics who would find something to hate about them either way. -
Williams Paul Parker, Rondo, Rose and Westbrook all get buckets! ? that only pass whit!
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I don't want my PG to be the leading scorer & I'm a Bulls fan. I hate that Rose has to carry the team. he can be #2 but he has to work harder than most for the shots. They just don't have the talent
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What people don't realize is that all the PG's and QB's that "passed well" did that more often because...
...Drumroll please....
That's what they did best.
I can't help but laugh when ? act like John Stockton or Rajon Rondo could easily average 40 a night if they wanted to. Or Tom Brady and Peyton Manning "choose" to stay in the pocket but they could easily "Vick" defenses if they "felt like it".
Yeah, Stockton and Rondo have had some decent scoring games, and I've even seen Brady and Peyton get chunks of yardage running before, but that's not their natural game. They do what they do 'cause that's the only reason they're stars to begin with. -
the PG position is completely overrated, a team just needs to put together a group of players that compliment each others game
last PG champs
Mario Chalmers old J Kidd Fisher young Rondo -
Jeezyfan4ever wrote: »the PG position is completely overrated, a team just needs to put together a group of players that compliment each others game
last PG champs
Mario Chalmers old J Kidd Fisher young Rondo
Well damn @ the bold.
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Who says that? What sports town are either of you in that says a pg should only pass? PGs runs the team, no they shouldn't b a shoot first guard cuz they have the ball in their hands 90% of the time. But they can look 4 their offense too.
And what person said T.Brady n P.Manning can M.Vick at anytime? ??
M.Vick can't even M.Vick! QBs can run, but its smarter to stay in the pocket. Ask M.Vick that.
And you can still b mobile in the pocket. U don't have to take off running. LBs hit hard!! -
greenwood1921 wrote: »No different from the "QBs should only stay in the pocket" ? . Especially when forward passes were once illegal.
A QB just "tucking and running" every play or a PG just gunnin' every possession ain't smart either. But supressing your talent just so people can give you some ? stamp of approval is the dumbest ? I've seen within sports.
Whole bunch of QB's and PG's have missed out on alot of winning by trying to just prove something to critics who would find something to hate about them either way.
smh first hand experience of that -
somehow i knew ghost's post would be the worst in this thread
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Idk, I was gonna say white people.. I have my reason but I'm @ work so I'll come back wit it n a lil bit
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texasdaking88 wrote: »Idk, I was gonna say white people.. I have my reason but I'm @ work so I'll come back wit it n a lil bit
@ the bold
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the game is better when we have traditional point guards... someone has to handle the rock, run plays, create situations, get ppl involved, etc...
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A) A PG who strictly passes is as useless as a PG who jacks up 25 shots a game. A PG is a facilitator...a good PG should be averaging 15-20 pts and 8 to 10 asts a game.
Which clowns have ever suggested that Brady or Manning could do what Vick does outside of the pocket. I straight up have NEVER EVER heard that. -
im not saying his name but that white dude on espn 2
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as long as the pg is looking to involve his or her team before he looks to score first then he or she is good
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I dont think there's anybody who's ever said PG should ONLY pass so T/S made a thread opposing a idea noone conforms to
But if you wanna sit here and debate that a PG is not responsible for running a team and shouldn't look for the team first, i think its fair to say that you lack bball IQ
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Well, ill say unathletic white people..
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@greenwood.. thats kinda the point i was gonna make.. when did it become the only way to play the qb position by standing in the pocket?? When bigger stronger faster black athletes start showing they could play that ? too.. but nobody was saying that ? when fran tarketen and other running white qbs were playing.. they just talk about how good they could improvise..lol.. same thing with bball.. and baseball too.. but baseball is too international(in the non white countries) so aint ? they can do with that
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if there was a WTF button I would have pressed it on Ghost ...
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Yes this is a very big racial issue...c/s to the fullest
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Inglewood_B wrote: »somehow i knew ghost's post would be the worst in this thread
awwww....someone doesnt like me!! aww poor baby!! get over your grudge you arent important like that.
^^ that's what i;m saying, i never head that sh*TA) A PG who strictly passes is as useless as a PG who jacks up 25 shots a game. A PG is a facilitator...a good PG should be averaging 15-20 pts and 8 to 10 asts a game. Which clowns have ever suggested that Brady or Manning could do what Vick does outside of the pocket. I straight up have NEVER EVER heard that.
