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Yesterday, a Redditor solicited stories of sexual assault from assailants. "Reddit's had a few threads about sexual assault victims, but are there any redditors from the other side of the story?" he asked. "What were your motivations? Do you regret it?"
Here's a few reasons/excuses given:
(What they perceive as) mixed messages:
She ran to my bed and didn't want me to touch her. I didn't understand what had happened. This hypersexual person who had offered to give me head suddenly didn't want to touch me.
Or:
I was a freshman and hooking up with this girl who got naked in bed with me, then said no. I think she just wanted to do oral. I was extremely ? and already close to doing it, so I ignored her and did it. She realized what was happening and tried to clamp her legs shut, but it was too late and I was much stronger than her.
Or:
Sue had always been quite flirty, she was a cop's daughter and I feel that lead to her being a bit rebellious. I remember instances from years ago (possibly 8th grade or freshman year) where she would make jokes about different bras or thongs she was wearing, and was always freely talking about sexual desires and experiences. She just had this unusually sexual way of carrying herself, I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking about, but she'd kind of leave her mouth hanging open/bend over quite a bit/almost unreal-porn star like.
Remember though, this was all happening in my high school library during study hall. Not a whole let ever happened more than some dry groping. I wanted to take it further though, she had really begun to turn me on...
Or:
I can't remember how it happened, but me and the girl (she was maybe 17) ended up play wrestling with me pinning her down. We were all laughing, but we when made eye contact...it was "that" look we exchanged. The.."I'd ? you" look.
Now, I remember exactly what I was thinking at the time. This girl gave me "the look" earlier, she invited me into her bed. What teenage girl would pass up the oppertunity to be with a 22 year old guy? She MUST want it. I tried again, and slid my hands over her body.
Peer Pressure:
I got peer pressured in to hooking up with this girl. I kept saying I didn't want to and my friends kept saying I had to lose my virginity. They say this for about a week and finally new years come so I figured might as well. We are both completely wasted and go to a room. I was to ? to get it up so I fingered her and ate her out but she wasn't really into it. So I stopped and then threw up all over her and I passed out. I guess she ran out and told them I ? her. She never said stop or anything but I could see how she could have froze up in fear. I don't doubt she feels molested and I feel like an awful person but it wasn't ? as SnugglesWithRuggles pointed out it was ? .
Women are objects for the taking:
Ended up happening again after a party. She was a good friend. I was ? and super ? . I looked at her and knew I could never be with her. She had already hooked up with my friend. It was that feeling of never being able to do something, or have something. I looked at her and just saw something I would regret not trying for. So I thought if I could feel her I would know what it was to be with her. I grabbed her ? , over the shirt. I touched her lip and she moved her head. I stop dead thinking I woke her up, but she relaxed again. I started going upstairs but felt a sudden urge to lift her skirt. I ran my hand across her ass and between her legs. I was so ? I turned on the light to get a better look, then quickly realized that it would wake her up and turned the light off.
Biology (The "I can't help my ? !" argument):
Most girls don't really understand how ? guys are, how much stronger guys are, how guys will rationalize what they do. I see feminists and women on the Internet saying that no means no and women should be able to get as ? as they want and not be sexually assaulted, and I couldn't agree me. But the reality of the situation is that women have to be careful because guys are one way when they're hanging out and another way when they're ? or worse ? and ? . That doesn't make what happened okay, but it is what it is.
Bad influences:
I was an extremely isolated youth who came from a broken home. My escape was the internet. At about sixteen I was exposed to alot of PUA material, which (not having a father or mother really around) shaped my life up until I was about 20. Most of the material was very objectifying and sexually aggressive towards women.
Multiple men said that they didn't end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:
I'm a good man. I have a wife and a couple of kids now and I'm a good father and husband. I'm a pretty moral guy. But I think the thing that has always stuck with me...is how close I came to actually doing it. If I hadn't looked up at her face and seen what she was feeling, I might have continued. In my mind, at the time, she wanted it. I can remember staring at the ceiling while on the couch thinking "in a couple of minutes she's going to come out here and get on top of me."
Or:
...It was then I looked at her face. She was petrified. I at that point pulled myself together, rolled off her and apologized. My hormones were RAGING. I asked her why she didn't want to. I told her what I thought above. She started to cry.
Well ladies and gents, are these valid reasons? Do you understand the pressures of being a man?
Original thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/x6yef/reddits_had_a_few_threads_about_sexual_assault/
Here's a few reasons/excuses given:
(What they perceive as) mixed messages:
She ran to my bed and didn't want me to touch her. I didn't understand what had happened. This hypersexual person who had offered to give me head suddenly didn't want to touch me.
Or:
I was a freshman and hooking up with this girl who got naked in bed with me, then said no. I think she just wanted to do oral. I was extremely ? and already close to doing it, so I ignored her and did it. She realized what was happening and tried to clamp her legs shut, but it was too late and I was much stronger than her.
Or:
Sue had always been quite flirty, she was a cop's daughter and I feel that lead to her being a bit rebellious. I remember instances from years ago (possibly 8th grade or freshman year) where she would make jokes about different bras or thongs she was wearing, and was always freely talking about sexual desires and experiences. She just had this unusually sexual way of carrying herself, I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking about, but she'd kind of leave her mouth hanging open/bend over quite a bit/almost unreal-porn star like.
Remember though, this was all happening in my high school library during study hall. Not a whole let ever happened more than some dry groping. I wanted to take it further though, she had really begun to turn me on...
Or:
I can't remember how it happened, but me and the girl (she was maybe 17) ended up play wrestling with me pinning her down. We were all laughing, but we when made eye contact...it was "that" look we exchanged. The.."I'd ? you" look.
Now, I remember exactly what I was thinking at the time. This girl gave me "the look" earlier, she invited me into her bed. What teenage girl would pass up the oppertunity to be with a 22 year old guy? She MUST want it. I tried again, and slid my hands over her body.
Peer Pressure:
I got peer pressured in to hooking up with this girl. I kept saying I didn't want to and my friends kept saying I had to lose my virginity. They say this for about a week and finally new years come so I figured might as well. We are both completely wasted and go to a room. I was to ? to get it up so I fingered her and ate her out but she wasn't really into it. So I stopped and then threw up all over her and I passed out. I guess she ran out and told them I ? her. She never said stop or anything but I could see how she could have froze up in fear. I don't doubt she feels molested and I feel like an awful person but it wasn't ? as SnugglesWithRuggles pointed out it was ? .
Women are objects for the taking:
Ended up happening again after a party. She was a good friend. I was ? and super ? . I looked at her and knew I could never be with her. She had already hooked up with my friend. It was that feeling of never being able to do something, or have something. I looked at her and just saw something I would regret not trying for. So I thought if I could feel her I would know what it was to be with her. I grabbed her ? , over the shirt. I touched her lip and she moved her head. I stop dead thinking I woke her up, but she relaxed again. I started going upstairs but felt a sudden urge to lift her skirt. I ran my hand across her ass and between her legs. I was so ? I turned on the light to get a better look, then quickly realized that it would wake her up and turned the light off.
Biology (The "I can't help my ? !" argument):
Most girls don't really understand how ? guys are, how much stronger guys are, how guys will rationalize what they do. I see feminists and women on the Internet saying that no means no and women should be able to get as ? as they want and not be sexually assaulted, and I couldn't agree me. But the reality of the situation is that women have to be careful because guys are one way when they're hanging out and another way when they're ? or worse ? and ? . That doesn't make what happened okay, but it is what it is.
Bad influences:
I was an extremely isolated youth who came from a broken home. My escape was the internet. At about sixteen I was exposed to alot of PUA material, which (not having a father or mother really around) shaped my life up until I was about 20. Most of the material was very objectifying and sexually aggressive towards women.
Multiple men said that they didn't end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:
I'm a good man. I have a wife and a couple of kids now and I'm a good father and husband. I'm a pretty moral guy. But I think the thing that has always stuck with me...is how close I came to actually doing it. If I hadn't looked up at her face and seen what she was feeling, I might have continued. In my mind, at the time, she wanted it. I can remember staring at the ceiling while on the couch thinking "in a couple of minutes she's going to come out here and get on top of me."
Or:
...It was then I looked at her face. She was petrified. I at that point pulled myself together, rolled off her and apologized. My hormones were RAGING. I asked her why she didn't want to. I told her what I thought above. She started to cry.
Well ladies and gents, are these valid reasons? Do you understand the pressures of being a man?
Original thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/x6yef/reddits_had_a_few_threads_about_sexual_assault/
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your trolling is getting to be out of control....
you trying to win the 'lets see how many threads i can make' award? -
^ WTF are you talking about?
Can you count?
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^^^ probably, the ? name is overkill
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@Over_? I think u really over-killing it with the threads B. But I'll let u cook B, I can't front u clearly aint got much to do IRL...smh...
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You ? are ? .
I made 2 threads yesterday and 1 just now. Before that I didn't make a thread for a week and half.
LOL. Ya'll ? be crying.
Anyway
I thought it was interesting to see what people would post about the rapes that they committed. Could be a good discussion.
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I laughed...
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^ it's not a joke. It's a real thread which I provided a link to plus there's all ready news sources reporting about this thread.
See
http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/29/? -confessions-reddit?cat=commentisfree&type=article
And
http://m.jezebel.com/5929544/rapists-explain-themselves-on-reddit-and-we-should-listen
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Thread intentions, Ion really care bout...But the stories are funny..."What 17 year old girl would pass up the opportunity to have sex with a 22 year old?"
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^ yeah you right!! Lol
Man then muthafuckas are sick.
This one cat told his story. Then a chic replied back saying that exactly how I got ? !! DEAD. -
And this info is from....
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^ I provide links man.
It's a thread that someone started on Reddit (link at bottom of op) asking for ? to tell there side of the story of why they committed or came close to committing ? . -
i laughed at the ? talking about "the look". haha. ? rationalized it as she gave me the "I wanna ? " look so I ? the ? .
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I assume most victims are teenagers to early twenties. Grown women get it on and don't have time for games. Never go into a bedroom and it's not going down.
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its ? up but I went to the site and read some of the posts and some of them got me laughing hard. some of the stories are sad though.
This one comment on a post that dude talked about laughing cracked me up. " Dude, come the ? on. Don't rationalize what you did with "boys will be boys" ? . You know how many times I've been harder than I thought was possible and still been able to stop when a girl said no? As someone who isn't a ? , I find not ? people exceedingly easy, regardless of how ? my ? is."
Pure ether to the dude who said he didn't want to do it but was just too ? to stop. -
i would never sympathize wit a ? but i will say this
females need to stop wit the naked naps and naked cuddling ? if they aint tryna ?
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dudes should have some got dayum self respect and not let these females put them in these tease positions
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"Listen up, i got a story to tell"
-ja rule -
a simplified version for all those responses would be:
"the ? wasn't giving up the ? , and i wasn't letting her go till i go ? deep" - ? . -
Man i had this ? with me after a night of drinking and we were having relations in my bedroom. Got our pants off and this ? was like No, we cant. Im like wtf. You ? ? .. So i got this naked chick in my damn bed and a dry ? . I didnt know this chick too well, seen her at the bar a couple times but this is really the first time we had any one on one time. sittin there and she starts tuggin on my ? , so im like ? yeah Its smashing time! end up getting felatio, then get on her and proceed to stroke. Everythings going fantastic for maybe 5 minutes and shes like "No i cant do this" but she would kind of laugh. I didnt know if it was an awkward laugh or what. So i get off. Very frustrated at this point. All try to cuddle again but i wasnt having that. After a few minutes of awkward conversation she proceeds to suck my manhood. AGAIN. I wasnt gonna be the ? tho anymore after that so i made her get on top of me and she finished me off. But it was just always very confusing after that point and awkward the next day. I dunno if that was ? or not but i try to not look cops in the eye.
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? youuuu i wasnt urging her to do things i was just yelling at her in my head
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Lou Cypher wrote: »? youuuu i wasnt urging her to do things i was just yelling at her in my head
you didn't ? her. She was trying to hold back her whorish tendencies.
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Thanks slickest. Thats all i needed to read.
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? did you just say "? "?!?!?
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Yeah, my ? . My dangly. JOHNSON.
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nah not really