why white woman get the benefit of a doubt

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GetMoneyInDaN.O.
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edited July 2010 in The Powder Room
i ask this becuz compared to black woman they do.got home and me and my girl was watchin that downfall ? ,and they had this lady on their,and she like she a "Stay-At-Home Mom"wit 3 kids.

so my girl like thats ? up if she was black they would say she a lazy,no good,welfare lovin chick who dont wanna get a job and probably got different baby daddies. or like when white women have no job they call them "HomeMakers",where as when a black chick does it she just lazy.

some people require them to do so,but why do white women get glorified and put on a pedestal 4 the same ? black women get dawged for.they was callin that white chick supermom and bullshyt like that.

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  • kat2180
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    i ask this becuz compared to black woman they do.got home and me and my girl was watchin that downfall ? ,and they had this lady on their,and she like she a "Stay-At-Home Mom"wit 3 kids.

    so my girl like thats ? up if she was black they would say she a lazy,no good,welfare lovin chick who dont wanna get a job and probably got different baby daddies. or like when white women have no job they call them "HomeMakers",where as when a black chick does it she just lazy.

    some people require them to do so,but why do white women get glorified and put on a pedestal 4 the same ? black women get dawged for.they was callin that white chick supermom and bullshyt like that.

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    If you have a man making money and you're taking care of the house then you ARE a homemaker. If there is no man in your house making money and you're still staying home, that's lazy.
  • bankrupt baller
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    kat2180 wrote: »
    If you have a man making money and you're taking care of the house then you ARE a homemaker. If there is no man in your house making money and you're still staying home, that's lazy.

    lol this first post shut your thread down.....L
  • konceptjones
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    kat2180 wrote: »
    If you have a man making money and you're taking care of the house then you ARE a homemaker. If there is no man in your house making money and you're still staying home, that's lazy.

    /end thread.

    Take my wife, it's not necessary for her to work when I make enough to take care of her and our four kids. She does stuff here and there, but it's not necessary at all. She's a homemaker, as are many women in our community whether black, white, brown or whatever.
  • maalymaal81
    maalymaal81 Members Posts: 107
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    white is right in some people eyes so whuteva they say is all gud. i say ? whut other people say
  • juice86
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    kat2180 wrote: »
    If you have a man making money and you're taking care of the house then you ARE a homemaker. If there is no man in your house making money and you're still staying home, that's lazy.

    LOL Hit the nail on the head plus white woman dont sell weed out of their house, run a hairsalon or run a daycare lol
  • kat2180
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    juice86 wrote: »
    LOL Hit the nail on the head plus white woman dont sell weed out of their house, run a hairsalon or run a daycare lol

    Whoa..don't get too excited. I know white women that do that.

    Minus the weed, there's nothing wrong with running a profitable and legitimate business out of your home.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    i ask this becuz compared to black woman they do.got home and me and my girl was watchin that downfall ? ,and they had this lady on their,and she like she a "Stay-At-Home Mom"wit 3 kids.

    so my girl like thats ? up if she was black they would say she a lazy,no good,welfare lovin chick who dont wanna get a job and probably got different baby daddies. or like when white women have no job they call them "HomeMakers",where as when a black chick does it she just lazy.

    some people require them to do so,but why do white women get glorified and put on a pedestal 4 the same ? black women get dawged for.they was callin that white chick supermom and bullshyt like that.

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    Truth spoken and from my experiences, I've seen alot of white women (not saying that most white women are like this) downgrade black women while they were no better or in fact worse than them. I knew one chick that was extorting drugs and using men for money while she was saying that black women are lazy and golddiggers. I mean seriously some try to glorify themselves while looking down on others because it's genetically implanted in them from their ancestors.

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  • the_underground
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    I agree.

    Racism is a ? ? in the ass.

    There was this Patricia Hill Collins article on this called the construction of white womanhood and Black womanhood. Society portrays white women to be more moral, care giving, and generally sacrificial beings for their children, whereas Black women were the opposite. White women are upheld because they represent carrying on the children for America and upholding systems of white privilege. So even when they are lazy and full of ? , like your example, people give them the benefit of the doubt, or say they are a victim of circumstances. Black women are depicted differently because they aren't valued as mothers and care takers of people of color.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    I agree.

    Racism is a ? ? in the ass.

    There was this Patricia Hill Collins article on this called the construction of white womanhood and Black womanhood. Society portrays white women to be more moral, care giving, and generally sacrificial beings for their children, whereas Black women were the opposite. White women are upheld because they represent carrying on the children for America and upholding systems of white privilege. So even when they are lazy and full of ? , like your example, people give them the benefit of the doubt, or say they are a victim of circumstances. Black women are depicted differently because they aren't valued as mothers and care takers of people of color.

    Exactly and even in the media, in interracial relationships the black person takes the biggest burn of the relationship too too many times. Til this day I really don't see Tiger Woods any different from David Letterman, Jessie James, Ben Rothlisberger, Al Gore, John Edwards and that other senator that was ? with the ? but because he's black and Elin's white, she's the main target of hurt, she's delicate and she deserves 700 million dollars. It's really really ? up, I don't even condone cheating but black people were even jumping on the bandwagon and throwing verbal stones at the dude when countless times white people are getting away with this. I even see relationships where the white guy is cheating on the black girl but yet it's buried and hidden from the public eye like what's happening with Garcelle Beauvuis Nilon, she even had a child with the guy and he cheated yet noone even cares. It's a bunch of ? , I know Tiger was wrong but do you really think that chick would get that much attention or better yet get 700 million dollars if she was black, yea ? right :rolleyes:, he'd probably even still have his sponsors.
  • the_underground
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    Exactly and even in the media, in interracial relationships the black person takes the biggest burn of the relationship too too many times. Til this day I really don't see Tiger Woods any different from David Letterman, Jessie James, Ben Rothlisberger, Al Gore, John Edwards and that other senator that was ? with the ? but because he's black and Elin's white, she's the main target of hurt, she's delicate and she deserves 700 million dollars. It's really really ? up, I don't even condone cheating but black people were even jumping on the bandwagon and throwing verbal stones at the dude when countless times white people are getting away with this. I even see relationships where the white guy is cheating on the black girl but yet it's buried and hidden from the public eye like what's happening with Garcelle Beauvuis Nilon, she even had a child with the guy and he cheated yet noone even cares. It's a bunch of ? , I know Tiger was wrong but do you really think that chick would get that much attention or better yet get 700 million dollars if she was black, yea ? right :rolleyes:, he'd probably even still have his sponsors.

    To be honest with you, Tiger deserved to get his ass sued for ? around when he shouldn't have, no matter what color his wife was (be smarter with your money, ? !). However, I do agree with you that media scrutiny was higher on him and waiting for him to screw up because he was a brother with a clean image making money at a white boy's game. I think Tiger underestimated that he was just another ? to the public, and that he can't get away with the same things white men get away with.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    To be honest with you, Tiger deserved to get his ass sued for ? around when he shouldn't have, no matter what color his wife was (be smarter with your money, ? !). However, I do agree with you that media scrutiny was higher on him and waiting for him to screw up because he was a brother with a clean image making money at a white boy's game. I think Tiger underestimated that he was just another ? to the public, and that he can't get away with the same things white men get away with.

    Exactly they were getting at him like he was a criminal and ? someone. I knew it was wrong but I didn't think he deserved all that and 700 million, they really don't wanna see a brother having money, they rather let the poor lil white lady live blissfully over spousal abuse.
  • FrozenMind
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    To be honest with you, Tiger deserved to get his ass sued for ? around when he shouldn't have, no matter what color his wife was (be smarter with your money, ? !). However, I do agree with you that media scrutiny was higher on him and waiting for him to screw up because he was a brother with a clean image making money at a white boy's game. I think Tiger underestimated that he was just another ? to the public, and that he can't get away with the same things white men get away with.

    It had more to do with the fact that billions of children look up to and emulate Tiger and want to be exactly like him.
    Hes one of the most recognizable faces on earth and he got caught ? like 20 different ? , and hes married.

    His race had nothing to do with the coverage it received. Just look at Mark Sanford. Hes a nobody and was scrutinized just as much as Tiger and he was only ? 1 other ? . How about Mike Phelps when they caught him hitting a bowl at a party (who hasn't done that?) He lost all his advertisers except for subway (for obvious reasons) and some people were saying that the Olympic committee needs to take away his medals.

    Tiger is one of the most well known faces on the earth. If any white celebrity of his caliber had been caught ? 15 different women and was married and had kids the media would have blown it up just as much because people get paid to blow that ? up, its a billion dollar industry (celebrity stories & gossip).

    Also Tiger always had an image of "Im innocent, I'm perfect, I never make mistakes, I'm a family man, I treat my family how your children should aspire to treat there future spouse and seeds."
    That was the big shocker and seller, not his race.
  • FrozenMind
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    i ask this becuz compared to black woman they do.got home and me and my girl was watchin that downfall ? ,and they had this lady on their,and she like she a "Stay-At-Home Mom"wit 3 kids.

    so my girl like thats ? up if she was black they would say she a lazy,no good,welfare lovin chick who dont wanna get a job and probably got different baby daddies. or like when white women have no job they call them "HomeMakers",where as when a black chick does it she just lazy.

    some people require them to do so,but why do white women get glorified and put on a pedestal 4 the same ? black women get dawged for.they was callin that white chick supermom and bullshyt like that.

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    You and your girl are pretty ignorant.
    Most homemakers have college eductions and wealthy husbands, and they come in all races.

    Much different from a lazy ? in the hood with no HS diploma, 3 different baby daddies, who spends all her money on fake gucci purses and jordans instead of diapers.
    And those ? come in all races too. Ive known white hoot rats, its not a race thing.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    It had more to do with the fact that billions of children look up to and emulate Tiger and want to be exactly like him.
    Hes one of the most recognizable faces on earth and he got caught ? like 20 different ? , and hes married.

    His race had nothing to do with the coverage it received. Just look at Mark Sanford. Hes a nobody and was scrutinized just as much as Tiger and he was only ? 1 other ? . How about Mike Phelps when they caught him hitting a bowl at a party (who hasn't done that?) He lost all his advertisers except for subway (for obvious reasons) and some people were saying that the Olympic committee needs to take away his medals.

    Tiger is one of the most well known faces on the earth. If any white celebrity of his caliber had been caught ? 15 different women and was married and had kids the media would have blown it up just as much because people get paid to blow that ? up, its a billion dollar industry (celebrity stories & gossip).

    Also Tiger always had an image of "Im innocent, I'm perfect, I never make mistakes, I'm a family man, I treat my family how your children should aspire to treat there future spouse and seeds."
    That was the big shocker and seller, not his race.

    ? please, can you say the same thing about Magic Johnson? His wife was black and he caught AIDS, why wasn't he blown up for having sex with something like 10,000 women? Children look up to thousands of celebrities that have cheated on their wives including the black basketball players that have black wives and they have sex with more women than Tiger. Matterfact, rap artist with groupies get looked up too and them dudes catch STDs on the regular but their not playing a white sport with a white wife trying to fit into the white world so noone cares if their hurting their community because it's only black people their affecting.
  • FrozenMind
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    Exactly and even in the media, in interracial relationships the black person takes the biggest burn of the relationship too too many times. Til this day I really don't see Tiger Woods any different from David Letterman, Jessie James, Ben Rothlisberger, Al Gore, John Edwards and that other senator that was ? with the ? but because he's black and Elin's white, she's the main target of hurt, she's delicate and she deserves 700 million dollars. It's really really ? up, I don't even condone cheating but black people were even jumping on the bandwagon and throwing verbal stones at the dude when countless times white people are getting away with this. I even see relationships where the white guy is cheating on the black girl but yet it's buried and hidden from the public eye like what's happening with Garcelle Beauvuis Nilon, she even had a child with the guy and he cheated yet noone even cares. It's a bunch of ? , I know Tiger was wrong but do you really think that chick would get that much attention or better yet get 700 million dollars if she was black, yea ? right :rolleyes:, he'd probably even still have his sponsors.

    None of those dudes were caught with 15 different ? and none of them had even close to the celebrity or fame that Tiger had.
    Also who the ? is garcelle beauvuis nilon, and who they ? is the man that cheated on her?
    Ask people on the street who she is and than ask tiger, tally the results and than the obvious should be seen by you. Its a numbers and money game. The media isn't racist, they are ruthless and bout there paper. Recognize game.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    None of those dudes were caught with 15 different ? and none of them had even close to the celebrity or fame that Tiger had.
    Also who the ? is garcelle beauvuis nilon, and who they ? is the man that cheated on her?
    Ask people on the street who she is and than ask tiger, tally the results and than the obvious should be seen by you. Its a numbers and money game. The media isn't racist, they are ruthless and bout there paper. Recognize game.

    Err, that's ? , yes the media has had anonymous calls from women claiming to be the mistresses of other celebrities that are as big as Tiger Woods the difference is whose side of this media is this celebrity entertaining. If he's entertaining white people, he's gonna have a microscope lense held to him like Barack Obama so he has to be careful with what he's doing but if he's only affecting the black community, they're alot less lenient.
  • FrozenMind
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    ? please, can you say the same thing about Magic Johnson? His wife was black and he caught AIDS, why wasn't he blown up for having sex with something like 10,000 women?

    Alot of obvious reasons to anyone who can think logically.

    1. TMZ and all those gossip blogs and shows that make big money didn't exist back than. That was the 90s, this is 2010. Celebrity gossip is a much bigger money making industry now than it was than.
    2. Magic never had the "Im the perfect father/man image."
    3. Even in his heydey he never was on the level tiger is on.
    4. That was the early 90s, this is 2010
    5. Magic was a NBA player, ppl expect NBA players to be cheaters, because most of them are.
    6. Tiger was CAUGHT ? 15 different ? , nasty ? , fast food resturant manager and retired porn star ? .
    7. Tiger had incriminating texts and phone messenges (gives TMZ and other media more money to make)
    8. The nation as a whole is in a ? , people were unemployed sitting home watching celebrity gossip all day, it was an expanded market


    I could list alot more, but its just obvious if you take your mind out of the little box you trap it in and actually think logically.
  • FrozenMind
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    Err, that's ? , yes the media has had anonymous calls from women claiming to be the mistresses of other celebrities that are as big as Tiger Woods the difference is whose side of this media is this celebrity entertaining. If he's entertaining white people, he's gonna have a microscope lense held to him like Barack Obama so he has to be careful with what he's doing but if he's only affecting the black community, they're alot less lenient.

    Ok, where is your sources? I guess you personally know mark sanford if you have inside access to calls and ? that wasn't heared on the news. Your jumping to conclusions and making ? up to try to support your illogical side of the argument. Also no man on earth except maybe Obama and Jesus has the celebrity of Tiger Woods.

    You are saying all the other people had texts and calls from ppl blah blah blah. What your ignorance is preventing you from seeing is that its all about money, and the media will take any and every scandal and milk it as much as they can because they don't give a ? about the race of the person, there concerned about there paychecks at the end of the week.
  • the_underground
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    It had more to do with the fact that billions of children look up to and emulate Tiger and want to be exactly like him.
    Hes one of the most recognizable faces on earth and he got caught ? like 20 different ? , and hes married.

    His race had nothing to do with the coverage it received. Just look at Mark Sanford. Hes a nobody and was scrutinized just as much as Tiger and he was only ? 1 other ? . How about Mike Phelps when they caught him hitting a bowl at a party (who hasn't done that?) He lost all his advertisers except for subway (for obvious reasons) and some people were saying that the Olympic committee needs to take away his medals.

    Tiger is one of the most well known faces on the earth. If any white celebrity of his caliber had been caught ? 15 different women and was married and had kids the media would have blown it up just as much because people get paid to blow that ? up, its a billion dollar industry (celebrity stories & gossip).

    Also Tiger always had an image of "Im innocent, I'm perfect, I never make mistakes, I'm a family man, I treat my family how your children should aspire to treat there future spouse and seeds."
    That was the big shocker and seller, not his race.

    I see your point about the self image and have considered all of that. What I am saying is that race plays a factor in this as well, although Tiger is an idiot for what he did.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    Alot of obvious reasons to anyone who can think logically.

    1. TMZ and all those gossip blogs and shows that make big money didn't exist back than. That was the 90s, this is 2010. Celebrity gossip is a much bigger money making industry now than it was than.
    2. Magic never had the "Im the perfect father/man image."
    3. Even in his heydey he never was on the level tiger is on.
    4. That was the early 90s, this is 2010
    5. Magic was a NBA player, ppl expect NBA players to be cheaters, because most of them are.
    6. Tiger was CAUGHT ? 15 different ? , nasty ? , fast food resturant manager and retired porn star ? .
    7. Tiger had incriminating texts and phone messenges (gives TMZ and other media more money to make)
    8. The nation as a whole is in a ? , people were unemployed sitting home watching celebrity gossip all day, it was an expanded market


    I could list alot more, but its just obvious if you take your mind out of the little box you trap it in and actually think logically.

    National Enquirer?
    The entertainment media is racist, my brother works in it and there's no doubt you have to be a certain complexion or have white features to have a specific status. Ok Tiger got caught but I'm pretty sure there were influences around him hence other golf players and he wasn't the only one doing this alone, he was just the one that got caught. This ain't even something to debate about cause I can't convince a blind man how to see when this is just too obvious. You gotta stick to your views and I'll stick to mine. I grew up dealing with racism and seeing this ? even in the media, there's just no doubt and I can't turn the other cheek to the evidence.
    When your in the white man's world, you have to carry yourself a certain way.
  • FrozenMind
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    I see your point about the self image and have considered all of that. What I am saying is that race plays a factor in this as well, although Tiger is an idiot for what he did.

    I just don't believe it does. Its all about money and ratings. Tiger Woods demands ratings and brings revenue just by waiving his hand at the camera. add 15 prostitutes a wife and kids and a self righteous goldenboy image to him and gotdamn... Your in for some serious paper and ratings. The Tiger Woods scandal is the reason alot of paparazzi are pushing new benzes right now.

    Your trying to find and prove to yourself its based on race. Your probably one of those people that does that for everything in life. I meet them all the time. "Man they didn't give me any napkins and ketchup and I asked them... Its cause I'm black." LOL.
  • FrozenMind
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    National Enquirer?
    The entertainment media is racist, my brother works in it and there's no doubt you have to be a certain complexion or have white features to have a specific status. Ok Tiger got caught but I'm pretty sure there were influences around him hence other golf players and he wasn't the only one doing this alone, he was just the one that got caught. This ain't even something to debate about cause I can't convince a blind man how to see when this is just too obvious. You gotta stick to your views and I'll stick to mine. I grew up dealing with racism and seeing this ? even in the media, there's just no doubt and I can't turn the other cheek to the evidence.

    I'm not saying the media isn't racist. But Tigers coverage had nothing to do with race.
    It had everything to do with money and you don't need to convince me of anything cause youve already convinced me you are me from 5 years ago. I used to think like you before I grew up, elevated my mind and got paid out the ass.
  • Sourpatch Kid
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    I'm not saying the media isn't racist. But Tigers coverage had nothing to do with race.
    It had everything to do with money and you don't need to convince me of anything cause youve already convinced me you are me from 5 years ago. I used to think like you before I grew up, elevated my mind and got paid out the ass.

    So if Tiger Woods had a black wife, they would share the same amount of sympathy?
  • FrozenMind
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    So if Tiger Woods had a black wife, they would share the same amount of sympathy?

    If Tiger Woods was still the worlds largest celebrity, had the perfect image, greatest golfer of all time, had 2 kids by the same wife, and ? 15 sleezy ? and denied it till there was evidence, and than his wife bashed his head in with one of his clubs....

    I think common sense says yes.

    And don't say sympathy. No one in the media had sympathy for edin, her misfortunes made alot of paparazzi wealthy. They pimped her misfortune.
  • the_underground
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    FrozenMind wrote: »
    I just don't believe it does. Its all about money and ratings. Tiger Woods demands ratings and brings revenue just by waiving his hand at the camera. add 15 prostitutes a wife and kids and a self righteous goldenboy image to him and gotdamn... Your in for some serious paper and ratings. The Tiger Woods scandal is the reason alot of paparazzi are pushing new benzes right now.

    Your trying to find and prove to yourself its based on race. Your probably one of those people that does that for everything in life. I meet them all the time. "Man they didn't give me any napkins and ketchup and I asked them... Its cause I'm black." LOL.

    Notice that I didn't say it was all based on race. I said that it was a facts as well as falling from his image.