NBA Past vs Present: Gary Payton/ Deron Williams
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Gary Payton a 6'4 point guard was a lockdown defender, good scorer, solid PG out of da post nd good distributor of da ball. his career is slightly overlooked in wat he did in makin Seattle a relevant playoff team for years nd even takin them to da finals, they were neva da same once he left then eventually moved to OKC. His best 2 seasons statistically were in 1999-00 (24.2ppg 8.9apg 6.5rpg nd 1.9spg) nd 2000-01 (23.1ppg 8.1apg 4.6rpg career high 37.1% from 3)
Deron Williams another point guard who takes advantage of his size wit post game. He's a versatile point guard wit a great jumper, great court vision dat can score from anywhere on da court nd has sneaky quickness nd athleticism. His best 2 seasons statistically were in 2011-12 (21.0ppg 8.7apg) nd 2008-09 ( 19.4ppg 10.5apg) Deron hasnt had great teams built around him so he hasnt had a lot of playoff success but dis year is his most balanced team nd he's entering his prime soon so big things are expected from da "best PG in da NBA" in some circles.
So my question is who would u rather have to start a team. Gary Payton in his prime a guy who had rebounding prowess for a PG nd had great defensive instincts (career high 2.9 in 95-96 nd 1.8 for his career) or Deron Williams a guy who is a more willing distributor (averaged ova 10 apg 5 times in his career sumthin Payton hasn't done once)
Deron Williams another point guard who takes advantage of his size wit post game. He's a versatile point guard wit a great jumper, great court vision dat can score from anywhere on da court nd has sneaky quickness nd athleticism. His best 2 seasons statistically were in 2011-12 (21.0ppg 8.7apg) nd 2008-09 ( 19.4ppg 10.5apg) Deron hasnt had great teams built around him so he hasnt had a lot of playoff success but dis year is his most balanced team nd he's entering his prime soon so big things are expected from da "best PG in da NBA" in some circles.
So my question is who would u rather have to start a team. Gary Payton in his prime a guy who had rebounding prowess for a PG nd had great defensive instincts (career high 2.9 in 95-96 nd 1.8 for his career) or Deron Williams a guy who is a more willing distributor (averaged ova 10 apg 5 times in his career sumthin Payton hasn't done once)
NBA Past vs Present: Gary Payton/ Deron Williams 36 votes
Gary Payton
86%
31 votes
Deron Williams
13%
5 votes
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Payton based off what he did on the defensive end plus I get to hear him talk ? for 48 minutes 82 times a year....
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bump
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I'll go with Deron Williams. He can get the most trash players involved and he capable of getting buckets when the team need it
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I dont like this comparison at all axel. But I would go with payton over deron. I felt you shoulda compared deron to another PG. Who? Idk
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imma take deron i think he is a better overall player in terms skillset
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Alpha Outlaw wrote: »I dont like this comparison at all axel. But I would go with payton over deron. I felt you shoulda compared deron to another PG. Who? Idk
lol yo its not easy to compare past nd present players. da basis behind dis comparison is bigger point guards who can do multiple things on da court. i aint trynna go back to players i neva seen play before cuz i cant really judge em da rite way besides stats nd youtube vids -
yea cant lie ? shrunk a lot in da playoffs while Deron always elevated his game back in UtahChi-Town Bully wrote: »Chi-Town Bully wrote: »I'll go with Deron Williams. He can get the most trash players involved and he capable of getting buckets when the team need it -
Gary Paytonaxel you disrepecting Payton bruh, just stop it. the glove had MJ shooting 5-19 in da finals due to his supreme defense. he is arguably the greatest defensive PG ever!!!! cmon man.....smh
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iont think its super disrespectful Gary Payton was considered one of da best PG's of da 90's nd Deron is considered one of if not the best PG rite now, its a few posters who chose D Will dis might b my closest one yet lls
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gary payton EASY just off his defense. one of two guards to win dpoy; the other was jordan.
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Gary PaytonI am going for g.p. over d-will
I met gary Payton a couple of times he a real ? -
Gary Paytonbruh you never give the newgeneration a chance with these matchups
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its....JOHN B wrote: »bruh you never give the newgeneration a chance with these matchups
lol look if someone else who's older wanna take da thread premise nd use it they can go rite ahead. My thing is iont wanna compare players who I've neva seen play before wit current players -
Gary PaytonNah man I like these thread ideas but I know theres some better matchups that will have people really scratching there heads
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Gary Payton@axel
Shawn Kemp vs Amare
David Robinson vs Dwight Howard
Reggie Miller vs Ray Allen
Stockton vs J Kidd
Clyde Drexler vs Washed Wade
George Gervin vs Tracy McGrady (prime)
Dominique Wilkens vs Vince Carter
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Gary Payton^^those are good, Kemp would destroy Amare and I think the admiral should destroy Dwight but the others are great matchups, well Neek vs Vince dunking ability would be a good matchup, heres a couple others
Dirk vs Mchale
TD vs Malone
Bynum vs Parrish
Kevin Johnson vs Deron (would of been better)
Larry Nance vs Kevin Love
Mitch Richmond vs Manu Ginobili
Walt Frazier vs Rondo
Joe Dumars vs Rip Hamilton
Carmelo vs Dominque
Pierce vs Worthy (thread worthy)
Bird vs James
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Gary Paytonits....JOHN B wrote: »^^those are good, Kemp would destroy Amare and I think the admiral should destroy Dwight but the others are great matchups, well Neek vs Vince dunking ability would be a good matchup, heres a couple others
Dirk vs Mchale
TD vs Malone
Bynum vs Parrish
Kevin Johnson vs Deron (would of been better)
Larry Nance vs Kevin Love
Mitch Richmond vs Manu Ginobili
Walt Frazier vs Rondo
Joe Dumars vs Rip Hamilton
Carmelo vs Dominque
Pierce vs Worthy (thread worthy)
Bird vs James
most of your matchups stink -
Gary PaytonThe Glove better in the clutch better overall player and the alley hoops The Reign Man were EPIC
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thing is wit da bolded i neva seen those guys play live so i cant make a fair assessment. I think Pierce vs Worthy is a good idea but ima be bias wit dat lol I like Mitch Richmond vs Ginoblli tooits....JOHN B wrote: »^^those are good, Kemp would destroy Amare and I think the admiral should destroy Dwight but the others are great matchups, well Neek vs Vince dunking ability would be a good matchup, heres a couple others
Dirk vs Mchale
TD vs Malone
Bynum vs Parrish
Kevin Johnson vs Deron (would of been better)
Larry Nance vs Kevin Love
Mitch Richmond vs Manu Ginobili
Walt Frazier vs Rondo
Joe Dumars vs Rip Hamilton
Carmelo vs Dominque
Pierce vs Worthy (thread worthy)
Bird vs James
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i think da bolded will be 1 sided tbh wit David Robinson nd Amare winning easily.Reggie nd Ray Allen would be good too but I give da edge to Ray cuz he did more on da court besides shootin. -
i dont understand this comparison at all
or matchup should i say -
KeepOnPushing wrote: »i dont understand this comparison at all
or matchup should i say
just tried comparing point guards who were bigger then their competition nd did multiple things on da court nd wondered who would u rather start ya team wit -
i guess
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Gary PaytonGP
The fact that he's a PG who could defend MJ>>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmF_R4FQAn8
