New J Cole ft Major Lazer.....Get Free

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usmarin3
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edited September 2012 in The Reason
Samples Major Lazer and no it's not his single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_OjZhd87M
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  • DNB1
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    Dope, so where is this from? mixtape droping soon?
  • usmarin3
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    Just a random track he put out, i personally don't think he is or should put out a mixtape. I think fans need to pay for music and stop expecting free ? all the time, it's watering down hiphop.
  • _Goldie_
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    edited September 2012
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    Do u know how* many songs artist make when they´re creating an album? And how much muzik that they never put out including mixtapes. Plus yall be the same mfs talkin bout , a ? ´s album has too many fillers, smh

    And yea, he has a mixtape on da way....
  • DNB1
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Just a random track he put out, i personally don't think he is or should put out a mixtape. I think fans need to pay for music and stop expecting free ? all the time, it's watering down hiphop.


    I see your point, but in this era, it helps maintain a buzz and lets not act like some of his best work is from mixtapes...

    This track is dope tho, had it on repeat...

    Any news on a sophomore album?
  • usmarin3
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    Do u know many songs artist make when they´re creating an album? And how much muzik that they never put out including mixtapes. Plus yall be the same mfs talkin bout , a ? ´s album has too many fillers, smh

    And yea, he has a mixtape on da way....


    I don't care, they shouldn't release it to the public, there is a reason why most of that ? didn't make the album. I mean do you see Nas, Jay, Outkast,etc releasing mixtapes and putting out music that ain't good enough.

    Quality>Quantity

    It's why Dr Dre can go 11 years without dropping a album and still be relevant, same for Dre 3000. The Lil Wayne approach isn't good imo, it's that fast food mentality, low quality mass volume ? .
  • usmarin3
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    DNB1 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Just a random track he put out, i personally don't think he is or should put out a mixtape. I think fans need to pay for music and stop expecting free ? all the time, it's watering down hiphop.


    I see your point, but in this era, it helps maintain a buzz and lets not act like some of his best work is from mixtapes...

    This track is dope tho, had it on repeat...

    Any news on a sophomore album?


    And how many classic albums have we gotten out of this approach. How comes other genres don't have to do this ? , because their fans (Country, Rock,etc) actually value their music and don't treat it like disposable art.
  • _Goldie_
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    So all the songs that never make the album should never be released? smh ok. And u named artist who have been in the game for over 20 yrs, why would they still be dropping mixtapes? Dr dre? lol So you would rather a ? take 12 yrs in between albums and a ? to never release material that never made the album oppose to a ? dropping a mixtape? o.0
  • usmarin3
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    So all the songs that never make the album should never be released? smh ok. And u named artist who have been in the game for over 20 yrs, why would they still be dropping mixtapes? Dr dre? lol So you would rather a ? take 12 yrs in between albums and a ? to never release material that never made the album oppose to a ? dropping a mixtape? o.0


    Yes it should not be released. We've never heard the unreleased joints from Illmatic, The Chronic, Ready to Die,etc and we haven't heard the unreleased joints from College Dropout, Black Album, Stillmatic, The Fix,etc (recent albums). There is a reason why the fools have to flood the game with useless mixtapes, they've given the fans ADHD and spoiled them with low quality music. There is a reason why dudes like Dre, Jay, Nas are held in such high esteem, they don't just put out anything and when they do, fans listen and critique it with harder than someone like a Wayne.

    I can wait 2-3 years in between albums for quality music, i'm not a ADHD ? who loses interest 5 minutes after a album comes out.
  • _Goldie_
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    So u prefer material like Lost Tapes to never be released? Checkmate
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    Agree with US to an extent...I think mixtapes are a bane to hip=hop, not a positive...Got rappers makin' ? for their '? ' fans in mixtapes then pleasin' whites with their albums...Droppin' tape after tape, dilutin' their material...

    Lost Tapes is a rare example...and if everyone took that approach, there'd be no issue
  • usmarin3
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    So u prefer material like Lost Tapes to never be released? Checkmate

    You're a ? idiot. Lost Tapes was the illegally bootlegged joints from I AM era that was released years later after I AM. Try again, you really thought you had a point too. lmfao
  • _Goldie_
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    U mean legally? How do u think artist like Jcole get signed in the first place?
  • usmarin3
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    U mean legally? How do u think artist like Jcole get signed in the first place?

    I AM was illegally bootlegged, if you knew hiphop or was around that time you would know that album got leaked early and the album version sounded nothing like the original.

    J Cole got signed off of a song (Lights Please), Jay-z nor Mark Pitts signed him off of mixtapes. He didn't put out The Warm Up until after he got signed and no one payed any attention to the Come Up.
  • _Goldie_
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    Nobody payed attention to section 80 , nobody paid attention to meek mills mixtapes, nobody paid attention to the drake mixtapes? And with that being said, it would make no sense to never release the left over songs..

    And only a few songs from The Lost Tapes were leaked....
  • usmarin3
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    The point i am making is, there is no coincidence that we don't get classic albums like that anymore. Can you imagine Nas dropping a mixtape before he did Illmatic, i put money Illmatic wouldn't sound the same.

    Drake debut was a disappointment compared to his mixtapes, so was J Coles, and i bet you Meek Millz ? will be weaker too. I understand all new artist need to put out music to build a buzz, but why shoot all your bullets on a mixtape.
  • _Goldie_
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    I agree that artist shouldnt feel obligated to release a mixtape, but at the same time, if theres songs ¨fillers¨ left over , why not release them...
  • usmarin3
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    I agree that artist shouldnt feel obligated to release a mixtape, but at the same time, if theres songs ¨fillers¨ left over , why not release them...

    quality control, if something isn't up to a artist standards, why allow the world to hear it. For example, Jay-z Ghetto Techno which was leaked and never meant to be heard. lmfao
  • 5th Letter
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    I don't mind mixtapes for artists (Stalley) that are trying to get a buzz. But if you're Lil Wayne, Ross etc it doesn't make sense for them because they are established.
  • HustleThaDon
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    So for the video J.cole gonna do this?

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  • genocidecutter
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  • moedays
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    Agree with US to an extent...I think mixtapes are a bane to hip=hop, not a positive...Got rappers makin' ? for their '? ' fans in mixtapes then pleasin' whites with their albums...Droppin' tape after tape, dilutin' their material...

    Lost Tapes is a rare example...and if everyone took that approach, there'd be no issue


    There is so much truth in what both of you said.
  • DarthRozay
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    we haven't heard the unreleased joints from College Dropout
    Actually, there was the Freshmen Adjustment series that had unreleased songs and demos, but I get what you're saying
  • YamoleySensei
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    J Cole need to stop being a ? and respond to Diggy Simmons aka the J Cole killer....
  • lamontbdc
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    This beat is utter garbage with average lyrics. And yea its the execs trying to get these artists to play both sides of the fence. They let you make the music you love then put in on a mixtape for your core fans. Then they make half of your album sound like radio singles. They hope your fanbase will support you off your mixtapes while hoping your radio ? is catchy enough to get you some casual fans. Cole had success sales wise so he might have some pull but not sure how much. He's gonna put out more mixtapes.
  • A1000MILES
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    That second verse was meeeeaaaannn...