James Harden Dilemma
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#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »James Harden can do everything Eric Gordon can do
Eric Gordon can not do everything Harden can
End of argument
I've seen a lot of people say this but we truly don't know if Harden can put up the numbers Gordon did as efficiently while being the number 1 option on offense. What everybody is stating when they say he can is pure speculation. Harden's best shooting year was last season and he was the 3rd scoring option on a team with two very dangerous scorers last season. We don't know if what Harden did last season was truly what he is capable of or just one good season.
We all know for sure that Gordon can be the number 1 option and still be some what efficient because his numbers tell us that. If he and Harden were to trade places what makes any of us think that he couldn't put up similar numbers without being just as if not more efficient while playing better defense?
All ill say to this is, can Gordon be the #1 option on a winning team
Clippers didnt think so
Barkley always say ? numbers on a ? team dont mean ? -
amnesty perkins and that ? going str8 to Miami......or back to Boston
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amnesty perkins and that ? going str8 to Miami......or back to Boston
amnesty clause don't work like that you can bid for amnesty players if your under the salary cap -
MC The Rapper wrote: »
yeah i know but no one is gonna pick him up at that salary so he will make it past the bidding period in my opinion. he make 8 million and can't score or rebound at a high level -
MC The Rapper wrote: »
yeah i know but no one is gonna pick him up at that salary so he will make it past the bidding period in my opinion. he make 8 million and can't score or rebound at a high level
the amnesty clause works like this you take dude off the cap but you still have to pay him and the team that picks him up pays the winning bid. -
MC The Rapper wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »
yeah i know but no one is gonna pick him up at that salary so he will make it past the bidding period in my opinion. he make 8 million and can't score or rebound at a high level
the amnesty clause works like this you take dude off the cap but you still have to pay him and the team that picks him up pays the winning bid.
Amnesty
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Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA
(only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of
the player’s salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.
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Salary of amnestied players included for purposes of calculating players’
agreed-upon share of BRI.
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A modified waiver process will be utilized for players waived pursuant to
the Amnesty rule, under which teams with Room under the Cap can
submit competing offers to assume some but not all of the player’s
remaining contract. If a player’s contract is claimed in this manner, the
remaining portion of the player’s salary will continue to be paid by the
team that waived him. -
? talking about amnesty Perkins like he don't handcuff Duncan Bynum in consecutive rounds. His contract is huge...but leave him alone. He plays his roles well. He guards everyone well except Dwight
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yeah ? was in here dissing perkins the whole payoffs til i posted them Duncan stats in the 2nd round. he locked that nikka down
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Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory -
ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory
Bad deal , The Thunder need somebody not only to score but to make plays and facilitate , its only a few players that do those things . -
MC The Rapper wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory
Bad deal , The Thunder need somebody not only to score but to make plays and facilitate , its only a few players that do those things .
They have Eric Maynor as the backup he's back from injury and he legit coming off the bench -
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Upgrade it.
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#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »James Harden can do everything Eric Gordon can do
Eric Gordon can not do everything Harden can
End of argument
I've seen a lot of people say this but we truly don't know if Harden can put up the numbers Gordon did as efficiently while being the number 1 option on offense. What everybody is stating when they say he can is pure speculation. Harden's best shooting year was last season and he was the 3rd scoring option on a team with two very dangerous scorers last season. We don't know if what Harden did last season was truly what he is capable of or just one good season.
We all know for sure that Gordon can be the number 1 option and still be some what efficient because his numbers tell us that. If he and Harden were to trade places what makes any of us think that he couldn't put up similar numbers without being just as if not more efficient while playing better defense?
All ill say to this is, can Gordon be the #1 option on a winning team
Clippers didnt think so
Barkley always say ? numbers on a ? team dont mean ?
Initially The Clippers was trying to get Chris Paul without trading Gordon but New Orleans was smart and insisted he was put in the trade. The key word to your statement is TEAM, one man can't win in a TEAM sport. Yes one man can make a big difference but ultimately you need other players to round out a winning TEAM
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ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory
Bad deal , The Thunder need somebody not only to score but to make plays and facilitate , its only a few players that do those things .
They have Eric Maynor as the backup he's back from injury and he legit coming off the bench
he's always injured -
ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory
who got charlottes first rounder? -
"In the 44 minutes that Perkins has played, the Heat are +19.6 per 48 minutes -- they've outscored OKC, 98-80. In the 52 minutes that Perk has sat, the Thunder are +23.1 per 48 minutes -- they've outscored Miami, 121-96."
Harden played like ? in the finals to, but you dont get rid of him to keep Perk, you get rid of Perk to keep Harden, hes a much more important asset if they want to remain one of the elite teams -
Rockets need to offer Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson and the Toronto Pick for Josh Smith
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My bad I thought I was in the NBA Offseason thread smh.........fail
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its....JOHN B wrote: »"In the 44 minutes that Perkins has played, the Heat are +19.6 per 48 minutes -- they've outscored OKC, 98-80. In the 52 minutes that Perk has sat, the Thunder are +23.1 per 48 minutes -- they've outscored Miami, 121-96."
Harden played like ? in the finals to, but you dont get rid of him to keep Perk, you get rid of Perk to keep Harden, hes a much more important asset if they want to remain one of the elite teams
bruh did dude not just point out what he did in the LA and SA series
Miami was a bad match up for him -
MC The Rapper wrote: »ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »ShadyWorldOrder wrote: »Thunder will have to trade him @ the end of the day sometimes you cut ur ties. Harden will likely head East and my guess right now is
Harden gets moved in a 3 way to Chicago who sends picks to a team looking to rebuild and that team sends Oklahoma City someone on a cheap contract who can provide what Harden does
Trade Example
Bulls get- James Harden
Thunder get- Marcus Thorton 3yrs/7.5 per is better than what Harden would get
Kings- Charlotte's 1st Rounder and Chicago's 1st Rounder plus filler (Rip Hamilton)- negotiates buyout and joins contender like Celtics
................but its just a theory
Bad deal , The Thunder need somebody not only to score but to make plays and facilitate , its only a few players that do those things .
They have Eric Maynor as the backup he's back from injury and he legit coming off the bench
he's always injured
okay he isn't always injured but he hasn't produced at a high level when he did play . I think people get caught up in the whole sixth man thing and think anybody can do what James Harden does but when you look at it , its only one or two guys that can do what he does on a night to night basis. -
they need perk this season b/c of the howard trade....but after that...so what y'all telling me is if they amnesty perk...they can keep harden? are yall saying that they will have enough money to have harden...ibaka....durant..westbrook by amnesty perk....
no brainer to do it after the seaon -
they need pirk this season b/c of the howard trade....but after that...so what y'all telling me is if they amnesty perk...they can keep harden? do what yall saying is they will have enough money to have harden...ibaka....durant..westbrook by amnesty perk....
no brainer to do it after the seaon
they can keep harden either way bruh -
they need pirk this season b/c of the howard trade....but after that...so what y'all telling me is if they amnesty perk...they can keep harden? do what yall saying is they will have enough money to have harden...ibaka....durant..westbrook by amnesty perk....
no brainer to do it after the seaon
they can keep harden either way bruh
if they dont amnesty perk......they can keep harden -
unless Harden wnts to stay in OKC for a lesser amount than he could make elsewhere than they need to handle this before the 31st, these dudes are killing me saying keep Perk and get rid of Harden because Perk played good defense on a 40 year old Duncan
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they need pirk this season b/c of the howard trade....but after that...so what y'all telling me is if they amnesty perk...they can keep harden? do what yall saying is they will have enough money to have harden...ibaka....durant..westbrook by amnesty perk....
no brainer to do it after the seaon
they can keep harden either way bruh
but do they want pay millions of dollars in luxury taxes?
