NBA Discussion: The Anatomy and Psychology of a Max Deal Player in the Tax Trade Era .
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During the 2012 lockout there were new provisions added the Collective Bargaining Agreement to promote more Parity in the league and to prevent the Large Market teams from procuring all of the top talent . A more punitive luxury was established as well as the Amnesty clause , and (the less talked about) ability to re negotiate contracts . Fast Forward and we're at the midway point of 2012-2013 season, 12 days before the trade deadline. We have already had a few notable tax trades(Rudy ? /James Harden) with more to come . Josh Smith is the biggest name to be moved at the trade deadline . After talks between his representatives and the Atlanta Hawks Front Office they have stated they will not give him a max deal . This poses a bigger question , What makes a max deal player ? For years many players have been paid max money but don't have max money talent or disposition . I think a definitive criteria should be developed so these wack muthafuckas can stop being paid above their talent level .
So Lets discuss what's makes a Max player.
So Lets discuss what's makes a Max player.
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Max deal player is consistently great.. there are no "averages" that are benchmarks to make them Worthy...
If you change the culture of your team and are conducive to winning.. and an attraction that bring in a ton of court money, sponsors endorsements. maker you are max deal worthy.. The first part is the most important..
Their are some exceptions to the rule.. -
LeBron James
Dwayne Wade
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose
Rajon Rondo
Russel Westbrook
These are the only max level players in the league. No one else deserves one, and if anybody else has one they're being over paid. -
LeBron James
Dwayne Wade
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose
Rajon Rondo
Russel Westbrook
These are the only max level players in the league. No one else deserves one, and if anybody else has one they're being over paid.
Kevin Love is not being a paid max deal because Minnesota didn't feel like he was a real difference maker to their team. Rajon Rondo is kinda questionable as a max deal player his disposition and inability to play consistently in the regular season . He doesn't deserve max money because you have to have really good players around to get him to the playoffs . Where he plays at a very high level. -
Rondo is not a max player
Lol @ "the best pg in the nba" just cuz he goes to the ecf fucc outta here -
Imo Kevin love because he puts up max player numbers when healthy: 25 & 12. That ain't falling off trees, but I do agree about him not affecting the team very much and that I can't explain.
I was iffy on Rondo as well, but dude is young and will improve. I don't think a team would go wrong giving him a max deal. -
Imo Kevin love because he puts up max player numbers when healthy: 25 & 12. That ain't falling off trees, but I do agree about him not affecting the team very much and that I can't explain.
I was iffy on Rondo as well, but dude is young and will improve. I don't think a team would go wrong giving him a max deal.
His 25 a game comes in a inefficient manner and his defense is doo doo butter. That's why he has no impact, his deficiencies cancel out his best attributes. -
Rondo?
Foh -
Defense can be taught and worked on, and I've seen dude get timely buckets many times, so I don't think his scoring is inefficient.
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Max players don't get injured and have their team go on a 6 game winning streak without them.
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Replace rondo with the boy kyrie. Probably will get that D- rose contract when his rookie one expires
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A max player should be a player that put fans in the stands road or away. The NBA is a business so a max player should be bringing in revenue for owners to balance out the max contract given to the player. Max players should be capable of putting the team on their back in the playoffs and that player should be top 5 in their position. There are some exceptions. No player should be signing a max contract past 34 years old. Not saying all of these fit that description
Max Players
Rondo
Kobe
Dwight
Rose
Lebron
Wade
Durant
Westbrok
Love
Paul
Griffin
Carmelo -
Replace rondo with the boy kyrie. Probably will get that D- rose contract when his rookie one expires
That boy is brittle he gotta play a whole season relatively injury free before he can be considered for the Full D-Rose as they call it . -
Max players don't get injured and have their team go on a 6 game winning streak without them.
? rose hasn't played the whole year and the bulls are 4th in the east. Good teams find a way to win and play harder when their best player isn't there, the Celtics aren't better without Rondo. -
Max players don't get injured and have their team go on a 6 game winning streak without them.
? rose hasn't played the whole year and the bulls are 4th in the east. Good teams find a way to win and play harder when their best player isn't there, the Celtics aren't better without Rondo.
They are better without Rondo at least in the Regular season dude is a stat stuffer . He more worried about his stats then winning games case in point his double digit assist streak . -
Rudy ? > Rondo
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player is worth whatever he can get.
? them rich owners. -
Each team has to decide for themselves, it's not black and white.
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A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
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A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
Smh.
Bruh Rose and Westbrook is almost Tue same player.
Got a question for you. What makes Rose so much better then Westbrook? -
Shizlansky wrote: »A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
Smh.
Bruh Rose and Westbrook is almost Tue same player.
Got a question for you. What makes Rose so much better then Westbrook?
unfortunately "likeability" takes precedent to alot of people... -
I'll pick Rus over Rose.
Durability is the deciding factor. -
Shizlansky wrote: »A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
Smh.
Bruh Rose and Westbrook is almost Tue same player.
Got a question for you. What makes Rose so much better then Westbrook?
If we're talking straight basketball, then yeah they're comparable. You can't just look at the numbers though. Rose's leadership i.e. being responsible, is what sets him apart on the court. Add in the fact that RW is one of the worst decision makers in the league -- Makes Rose better.
This thread isn't about "who's better" though. It's about being the face of a franchise. I don't want the most important person in my organization throwing a fit on the court, having to walk to the back just so he can calm down.
Rose brought Chicago basketball back into a serious contender, and is single-handedly bringing adidas basketball back to the playing field. MVP Rose is much capable of being a "Face" than Westbrook is. -
Shizlansky wrote: »A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
Smh.
Bruh Rose and Westbrook is almost Tue same player.
Got a question for you. What makes Rose so much better then Westbrook?
If we're talking straight basketball, then yeah they're comparable. You can't just look at the numbers though. Rose's leadership i.e. being responsible, is what sets him apart on the court. Add in the fact that RW is one of the worst decision makers in the league -- Makes Rose better.
This thread isn't about "who's better" though. It's about being the face of a franchise. I don't want the most important person in my organization throwing a fit on the court, having to walk to the back just so he can calm down.
Rose brought Chicago basketball back into a serious contender, and is single-handedly bringing adidas basketball back to the playing field. MVP Rose is much capable of being a "Face" than Westbrook is.
Y'all be killing me with the D.Rose propaganda , Thibs brought Chicago basketball back . I don't see a whole a lot of people running to get the new D.Rose sneakers either . -
Shoutout to Rose for missing this season and the bulls is still a top 3 team in the East.
Elvo told me that Thibbs is the best coach and I did a lil research watched some games past and present.
Thibbs is the reason Bulls is back.
Rose missed 32 games last year (half the season) and they still was the #1 team. -
MC The Rapper wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »A Max Player is someone who:
Plays great every season.
Changes Cultures
Puts fans in seats both Home/Away
Endorsements - Brings attention to the player, but also the team. Also, has to be marketable, not just for products, but for charities. To help bring good will to the team, himself & city.
As of this season:
LeBron
KD
Kobe
CP3
Rose
Dwight
Melo
Bolded are players that are (or in KD/Rose's cases, will be VERY SOON) viewed as more than just an NBA player.
Players like Westbrook, Love & Rondo are strictly NBA All-Stars - You won't be able to separate them from being just NBA players. Really good players, but they all have their flaws.
Wade - He's a name still because of past performances, but his game has not stood out this year. Good year for him, but I don't believe you can be a Max player when you are drastically overshadowed by a player on your own team.
Smh.
Bruh Rose and Westbrook is almost Tue same player.
Got a question for you. What makes Rose so much better then Westbrook?
If we're talking straight basketball, then yeah they're comparable. You can't just look at the numbers though. Rose's leadership i.e. being responsible, is what sets him apart on the court. Add in the fact that RW is one of the worst decision makers in the league -- Makes Rose better.
This thread isn't about "who's better" though. It's about being the face of a franchise. I don't want the most important person in my organization throwing a fit on the court, having to walk to the back just so he can calm down.
Rose brought Chicago basketball back into a serious contender, and is single-handedly bringing adidas basketball back to the playing field. MVP Rose is much capable of being a "Face" than Westbrook is.
Y'all be killing me with the D.Rose propaganda , Thibs brought Chicago basketball back . I don't see a whole a lot of people running to get the new D.Rose sneakers either .
The Bulls made the Playoffs before Thibs was even the head coach. They were .500 in Rose's 1st year. Without Rose this year, 1st round exit... With Rose, potential to go to the Finals.
Most people who buy Rose's don't rock them casually, strictly for hooping. I said he's bringing adidas back, and it's not just his shoe people are clamoring for, its the Crazy Light as well. All thanks to Rose.
