Lets be real, Wayne was the king of a Weak ERA
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Wayne is my dude and all but let's not exaggerate his talent. He was the complete standout of one of the worse eras of rap from his music to his persona. That's what made him so popular.
Pre 05: lol ain't nobody give a ? about Dweyne here
05-07: Lil Wayne was a B-list rapper waiting for better artists to leave him scraps with which to make mixtapes.
08: Lil Wayne has his greatest success in one of the least top-heavy years in hip-hop history, with only a prison-going T.I. and autotune singing Kanye to compete with.
09-11: after effects of hugely successful C3, couple trash albums in this stage, including Rebirth.
Present: With his peers group now back to some level of respectability, Little Dweyne is no longer the standout he once was now that his style has now been jacked by almost every new rapper out nowadays and molded to their unquie personas. Even his fans and haters alike would agree that he is starting to slowly fall off even though he his his recent songs in heavy rotation on the radio .
Lil Wayne, the greatest weak era king of all time.
Pre 05: lol ain't nobody give a ? about Dweyne here
05-07: Lil Wayne was a B-list rapper waiting for better artists to leave him scraps with which to make mixtapes.
08: Lil Wayne has his greatest success in one of the least top-heavy years in hip-hop history, with only a prison-going T.I. and autotune singing Kanye to compete with.
09-11: after effects of hugely successful C3, couple trash albums in this stage, including Rebirth.
Present: With his peers group now back to some level of respectability, Little Dweyne is no longer the standout he once was now that his style has now been jacked by almost every new rapper out nowadays and molded to their unquie personas. Even his fans and haters alike would agree that he is starting to slowly fall off even though he his his recent songs in heavy rotation on the radio .
Lil Wayne, the greatest weak era king of all time.
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nah, Jay-Z needs an honorable mention too...when Pac and Big were poppin that ? wasn't ? , they had to die and even then DMX prevented him from sole position and then Em came out also...Nas then blasted the ? when he forgot his place and was gettin to comfortable...not saying he was never King but he deserves a mention too.
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I'll never call him the king. Don't matter how popular he was during his run he still wasnt putting out good music.
his punchlines are way overrated and watered down.
I'll admit Wayne was big and had success but his music wasnt backing that up imo
majority of his music is a Glad™ trash bag full of garbage -
I wanna disagree so bad...Naw, ? that, I disagree...
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I still like Wayne, shockingly.
But I agree even tho I don't want to. -
An Era that included Kanye, Nas, Em and Jay Z. LOL @ that being weak. They are 4 of the greatest to ever do it and have been very active during Waynes dominance.
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Umm carter 1 came out in 04 and thats the album that made Wayne who he is now...
Also I think in one of those years Wayne had 50+ songs make the top 100...
But the "era" u speak of was not weak...
50 N G UNIT was in dey prime during this time...
Dipset was doin they thing..
wassnt lupe gaining steam?
didnt jay z come back?
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Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
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he had KanyeBlackGerald wrote: »Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
T.I.
Jay z..
Eminem..
All people he had worked with during dat time..
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BlackGerald wrote: »Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
That could be said about almost any rapper that gained "superstar" status though, they naturally carve a lane where there isn't much competition, just imitatation...But even less for Wayne, cause during his come up, Kanye was in his prime and 50 was in his decline...Tip could still sell gold out the gate...Jay was Jordan wit the 45...Then he went and created competition for himself by signing Drake... -
Lil Wayne was never king of anything. Sales wise Kanye has outsold him with less albums and catalog wise he ? on Wayne.
Like i said before, Wayne is just popular and tapped into that teenage angst. His fanbase is starting to outgrow him now. -
Co sign.
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damobb2deep wrote: »
he had KanyeBlackGerald wrote: »Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
T.I.
Jay z..
Eminem..
All people he had worked with during dat time..
like t/s said T.I. and Ye were the only real competition.
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Wayne..... King......
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That was gonna be my other point...Wayne wasn't een really the king like that...His popularity just grew and grew with each move and each tape...
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Lil Wayne was like a toilet in a field of garage
he just stood out -
only reason why wayne is still relevant is because he still raps to a tennage crowdThe Recipe wrote: »An Era that included Kanye, Nas and Jay Z. LOL @ that being weak. They are three of the greatest to ever do it and have been very active during Waynes dominance.
yeezy is the best rapper in this gen though i dont count nas and jay z but yeezy still makes music that will last and has content to it
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Makaveli Joker wrote: »Lil Wayne was like a toilet in a field of garage
he just stood out
So now...He was in a field of garbage...But when the whole "B.R.A." ? was hot...There were a thoooooooooooouuuuuuuusandrappers better than him, right? -
whitecracker wrote: »
only reason why wayne is still relevant is because he still raps to a tennage crowdThe Recipe wrote: »An Era that included Kanye, Nas and Jay Z. LOL @ that being weak. They are three of the greatest to ever do it and have been very active during Waynes dominance.
yeezy is the best rapper in this gen though i dont count nas and jay z but yeezy still makes music that will last and has content to it
I wouldn't say Kanye is the best rapper, i think that title goes to Lupe imo. Kanye is the best artist though, i just don't know about rapper with all his ghostwriting and what not.
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If dats da case dats some good competition lol..BlackGerald wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
he had KanyeBlackGerald wrote: »Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
T.I.
Jay z..
Eminem..
All people he had worked with during dat time..
like t/s said T.I. and Ye were the only real competition.
In any givin year no more then 5 people gonna be "a list competition.."
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damobb2deep wrote: »
If dats da case dats some good competition lol..BlackGerald wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
he had KanyeBlackGerald wrote: »Lil Wayne fans won't be able to see the truth but Lil Wayne had little competition in the late 2000s which is why he could get away with flooding the market and calling himself the greatest rapper alive
T.I.
Jay z..
Eminem..
All people he had worked with during dat time..
like t/s said T.I. and Ye were the only real competition.
In any givin year no more then 5 people gonna be "a list competition.."
but lets compare it to other eras: early/mid 2000s Kanye, Jay, 50/G Unit, Dipset, Ludacris and Nelly were all popping, Where was Wayne? and objectively he wouldn't have been on top in the 90s as a solo artists either so Wayne's rise to the top was heavily dependent on timing -
from 05-08 you had
tip
kanye
hov
game
50
jeezy
nas
all release albums during that time period. and those were the biggest rappers out at that time. -
damobb2deep wrote: »Umm carter 1 came out in 04 and thats the album that made Wayne who he is now...
Also I think in one of those years Wayne had 50+ songs make the top 100...
But the "era" u speak of was not weak...
50 N G UNIT was in dey prime during this time...
Dipset was doin they thing..
wassnt lupe gaining steam?
didnt jay z come back?
I could keep goin..
the Carter 1 & 2 came out in 04 & 05 at that time Wayne was cool but not the mega star he became, he popped in 07 and took over in 08 with Carter 3.
Dipset after 06 was basically done.
G unit was done after 05
Lupe had a spark when he started but ended up garbage.
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so we gonna forget in 2008 nas released an album
q tip,
rick ross
the game
and plies.. when he was buzzing.
don't act like he didn't have competition when CIII came out.
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wayne really blew off in 2006 tho with the dedication 2....
