Sonic Lost World (Debut Trailer)

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  • Broddie
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    I like that the 3D Sonic games are finally embracing the classic Genesis level designs.
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    Sonic: Lost World – Taking a Page From Mario Galaxy
    We’ve seen Sonic’s new game in action, and SEGA is definitely inspired by the right games.
    by Richard George
    May 28, 2013

    Despite its legendary 20-plus year legacy, the Sonic the Hedgehog series has struggled to maintain a consistent track record when it comes to quality. SEGA, in an effort to find a successful formula, has experimented time and time again, moving from the series’ 2D roots to outlandish concepts involving werewolves to 3D adventures and back again. Success seemed to elude Sonic Team repeatedly… until recently.

    Although several Sonic games of the past decade have struggled in numerous ways, some of the more recent entries, including Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations, have been on the right track. They've been fun, and started to grapple with the fact that 3D and 2D adventures must be accommodated in unique ways. Generations even went so far as to take the same levels and approach them from both perspectives. With Sonic: Lost World, the Sonic Team is taking that design concept to the next step, blending 3D and 2D mechanics in abstract levels that more than resemble another Nintendo exclusive – Super Mario Galaxy. Derivative gameplay is sometimes frowned upon in this industry, but in the case of Lost World, this is more than welcome, and more than necessary. The development team has now been freed to think of gameplay first and worldly concepts second, and that can only mean good things for the final product.

    I recently had time to watch three levels of Sonic: Lost World, and the changes being made to the franchise range from entirely obvious to remarkably subtle. First and foremost – the game’s aforementioned larger design approach, and the necessary control alterations that followed.

    “We wanted to create an all-new design for 3D Sonic games with Sonic: Lost World,” producer Takashi Iizuka told me via e-mail. “Ever since the first day of development, we were focused on creating new and unique levels to best fit this new style.”

    That ‘style’ basically removes Sonic from the constraints of a cohesive, grounded world design. Instead, players will find themselves twisting, turning and jumping along floating constructs suspended in mid-air. Levels are now informed by gameplay needs, with some stages focusing on slower speeds with more platforming, and others pushing players to run as fast as possible. Aesthetic ideas are now more free, ranging from the more idyllic, grassy settings of Wind Hill to something like Desert Ruins 1, which consists of cakes, cookies, donuts and all manners of candy. And just to throw a curveball, Desert Ruins 2 drops the sweets theme entirely, and features an entirely different gameplay style, opting for the ‘tunnel racing’ concept that Sonic games have used for decades. Of course, all of this works within Sonic’s typical level designs, which feature a wide range of branching paths and exploration options.

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    Some parts of levels call upon classic Sonic concepts...

    More critically, it appears as though Sonic Team has realized that many of the core ideas from games like Sonic Generations and Sonic Colors can co-exist. 2D and 3D don’t have to be isolated so long as they’re incorporated in the proper manner. They can coexist in whatever state Sonic Team wants, allowing for levels that are 2D and 3D hybrids to varying degrees. Speed can also not only be about tunnel-based obstacle avoidance, but the crazier, twistier constructs that first appeared in the Sonic Adventure series. All of this can work together. It’s a remarkably simple realization for the series, but all indications seem to be that it works marvelously, particularly now that Sonic’s controls have been adjusted to accommodate those ideas.

    “Exhilarating and dynamic speed can sometimes conflict with [intuitive] controls, so we're constantly trying to improve the balance between the two,” Iizuka said, noting that improving control in this game was “of the utmost importance” to the team. Two key ideas were born of this focus – being able to control Sonic’s speed, and a ‘Parkour system’ that allows players to automatically accommodate basic obstacles when he’s running.

    As mentioned, Sonic Team’s greatest challenge was maintaining a sense of speed for the series while finding controls that made sense. The result is now that, by default, Sonic doesn’t burst off with a tilt of the analog stick. He walks – until you use one of the GamePad’s triggers to engage his running speed. This too is actually not full speed. Holding down the second trigger will pull Sonic into a ball, giving him access to his full momentum, which Iizuka likened to the ‘Boost speed’ from previous titles. By creating a tiered structure to movement, Sonic Team is hoping players will be able to navigate the wide range of level designs, exploring and running as necessary.

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    While others more than resemble concepts from Mario Galaxy.

    That’s also where the Parkour system comes into play. “In previous 3D Sonic games, even if you're running through a level at top speed, if you hit an obstacle you stop instantly,” Iizuka explained. “To avoid this, we added a new action to keep Sonic running, even when you hit an obstacle. To make sure it only happens when you want it to, it's triggered by the player holding the run button.” Like any game, automating actions brings a certain risk, but doing nothing means Sonic games continue to run into a brick wall – literally in the case of gameplay.

    Of course, there’s also the small matter of Lost World being a Wii U (and 3DS) exclusive. On Wii U, the GamePad is specifically used to activate various Whisp-based “Color Powers,” which feature touch-based controls and are mostly used to gain access to side paths and areas. The GamePad will also play a role in ‘Support Mode,’ which allows one player to use Wii U’s tablet to assist a second player who is controlling Sonic with a Wii remote and Nunchuck. Speaking of playing as Sonic, while the iconic hedgehog is the only character players will directly control, friends such as Tails, Knuckles and Amy will make appearances in the story.

    The story itself is, as you’d expect, remarkably simple. Sonic is chasing his longtime foe, Eggman, and encounters a mysterious floating island known as “Lost Hex.” It’s here where Sonic will run across the “Deadly Six” that SEGA has already teased, and Iizuka noted these foes will bring a “sense of danger and humor” to the story.

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    SEGA isn't shying away from full 3D levels on the 3DS.

    All of this and there are still a wide range of smaller details that will certainly please long-time Sonic fans. Some factor directly into game mechanics, such as the fact that Sonic will once again save animals throughout levels. Rescuing these critters will not only be tracked level by level, but cumulatively, and will factor into unlockable content. And then there are more subtle things, such as the animation for Sonic’s running or the presence of Red Star Rings (collected for unlockable content) and gold cannons (which access hidden paths). For every adjustment to the legacy, there is a similar tribute to it, and that acknowledgement is great to see.

    There’s plenty we don’t know about Lost World. The precise world and level structure remains a bit elusive. The size of the game. The nature of the bosses. However the biggest question mark of all is the 3DS version of the game. We know it will incorporate full 3D levels similar to the Wii U game, but the scale or design of these remains to be seen. There’s also the significant fact that we haven’t played this game. Its control and level design adjustments certainly seem to step in the right direction… but will they result in fun gameplay? We’ll find out. E3 2013 is just around the corner – and Sonic: Lost World will be there.

  • Broddie
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    It's Sonic Xtreme (cancelled Saturn game) meets Super Mario Galaxy. I like the sound of this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk
  • stoneface
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    Looks fun as a Sonic game should be.
  • KINGEC
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    Broddie wrote: »
    It's Sonic Xtreme (cancelled Saturn game) meets Super Mario Galaxy. I like the sound of this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk

    Exactly what I was thinking when looking at it.
  • Breezy_Kilroy
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    Probably going to be ported to xbox and playstation if sales don't hit their mark.
    I don't plan on buying a wii u but sonic is my dude so I wanna check it out. Looks promising.
  • focus
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    Probably going to be ported to xbox and playstation if sales don't hit their mark.

    Not happening. Nintendo has an exclusive deal on Sonic for the next 3 or 4 games.
  • IceManKam
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    Glad that Sonic is heading back in the right direction just mad that his games just seem gimmicky now
  • unspoken_respect
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  • Breezy_Kilroy
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    Damn that sucks. oh well
    Long live Sonic
  • Turfaholic
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    Sonic needs a revamp n more super sonic
  • Wild Self
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    This is gonna be dope. I know he will sell well, even on Wii U cause he's Sonic.
  • IamNumberOne
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    looks like they took a page out of Mario Galaxy...looks good
  • focus
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  • Broddie
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    Man the level design is really good. Can't wait to get my hands on this one. Wii U starting off strong when it comes to the platform genre. I hope the new 3D Mario isn't too far off. I skipped Generations but this looks like the 3D Sonic I've been waiting on since Sonic Adventure 2 for sure.
  • focus
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    Rayman vs Sonic vs Mario this holiday.
  • vespesianus
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    Looks kinds meh to me, they better make a Sonic Adventure 3 some point. This ? looks like it's aimed at 10 year olds, nothing wrong with that but I dunno, I liked the more adult ? they did with SA2 (the GOAT Sonic game), Sonic the Hedghog (that 2006 one) and even that Shadow game (which was a mess but I like the more mature theme).

    Fair play to them though, trying to move in a new direction, and I ain't buying a Wii U to play it but if the 3DS version is nice, I might pick it up
  • KINGEC
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    Looks kinds meh to me, they better make a Sonic Adventure 3 some point. This ? looks like it's aimed at 10 year olds, nothing wrong with that but I dunno, I liked the more adult ? they did with SA2 (the GOAT Sonic game), Sonic the Hedghog (that 2006 one) and even that Shadow game (which was a mess but I like the more mature theme).

    Fair play to them though, trying to move in a new direction, and I ain't buying a Wii U to play it but if the 3DS version is nice, I might pick it up

    Not with them Treasure hunting levels.

    ? was WOAT.
  • Karl.
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    Looks pretty wack to me.
  • VulcanRaven
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    Yeah that ? looks like garbage. As expected. Very cheap and gimmicky and the design style was used in Ratchet & Clank first, not SMG.
  • DarthRozay
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    this was my ? back in 02
  • vespesianus
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    KINGEC wrote: »
    Looks kinds meh to me, they better make a Sonic Adventure 3 some point. This ? looks like it's aimed at 10 year olds, nothing wrong with that but I dunno, I liked the more adult ? they did with SA2 (the GOAT Sonic game), Sonic the Hedghog (that 2006 one) and even that Shadow game (which was a mess but I like the more mature theme).

    Fair play to them though, trying to move in a new direction, and I ain't buying a Wii U to play it but if the 3DS version is nice, I might pick it up

    Not with them Treasure hunting levels.

    ? was WOAT.

    I liked them! Broke up the action a lil bit. Speaking of the treasure hunting levels, the background music for the Pumpkin Hill stage? GOAT Sonic music.

  • LUClEN
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    looks like it might be a solid platformer
  • KINGEC
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    KINGEC wrote: »
    Looks kinds meh to me, they better make a Sonic Adventure 3 some point. This ? looks like it's aimed at 10 year olds, nothing wrong with that but I dunno, I liked the more adult ? they did with SA2 (the GOAT Sonic game), Sonic the Hedghog (that 2006 one) and even that Shadow game (which was a mess but I like the more mature theme).

    Fair play to them though, trying to move in a new direction, and I ain't buying a Wii U to play it but if the 3DS version is nice, I might pick it up

    Not with them Treasure hunting levels.

    ? was WOAT.

    I liked them! Broke up the action a lil bit. Speaking of the treasure hunting levels, the background music for the Pumpkin Hill stage? GOAT Sonic music.

    Yea but naw IMO. I couldn't get passed that broken ass radar system mixed in with those frustrating ass levels. (Aquatic Mine was the WOAT) SA1 did it better.