What are Ross' plans for Stalley?

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Kellmill
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What’s today’s mathematics? I can’t call it, because it doesn’t take a golden calculator to divide the lack of effort Rick Ross has committed to Stalley’s promotion. Aside from Ross’ mathematical approach to rhyming (car reference plus bad foreign ? reference plus gold bottles reference plus lemon pepper wings) the MMG team is strong. Even though Meek Mill designed his whole flow pattern around the thematic basis of The Isley Brothers’ “Shout,” he can get busy on the mic sometimes. Still, one of the biggest assets on MMG is being criminally underused. Ross doesn’t forgive, but ? does, so hopefully He’ll forgive me for reversing my entire opinion and playing devil’s advocate for just a second. I know we all tend to blame the HNIC when proteges fail to push their music into the spotlight, but maybe more blame should fall on the artists for not hustlin’ their own material enough. Stalley did get a guest spot on ESPN’s First Take theme song and some quality burn on the Self Made albums. But nah homie, the numbers don’t add up in this case. As Stalley’s steady social media marketing attests to, Stalley isn’t Jay Electronica, taking 20 years in between track releases. What am I missing here? Stalley has released two phenomenal mixtapes (Lincoln Way Heights and Savage Journey To The American Dream) and with Honest Cowboy, the latest EP, it’s about damn time Stalley get an official release date for an official studio album. Listen Ross, I get it, you got a lot of things on your plate right now, but word to DMX, how much can a ? eat? On the real, where’s Stalley’s lobster, where’s his sea bass? “Swangin,” featuring Scarface, was one of the hottest joints released this year and I’m jus’ bein’ honest. But sadly, the emcee has really has nothing to show for it except for a couple of radio spins and Youtube views. Listen, I know artists don’t strike fire overnight, and this game does have it’s valleys and peaks, expectations for dips and what not, but can Stalley live? One thing tracks featured on Honest Cowboy like “Cup Inside a Cup” and “Spaceships and Woodgrain” have made firm in my mind is that Stalley’s game is grown, and I think he’d prefer Ross call him William. We know damn well Officer Ricky isn’t capable of moving coke across the ATlantic, but the self-made biggest boss you’ve seen thus far should face no metaphorical embargoes halting him from taking a gifted emcee with crossover appeal to industry heights much higher than Lincoln Way. And on that note, I’m gonna cut this Ye-esque rant and zone out to “The Highest” from Honest Cowboy, as you should.
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  • Peezy_Jenkins
    Peezy_Jenkins Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Stalley aint gon ever create the buzz for himself that wale and meek did, swangin cant do for him what That Way & Like A Boss did, that aint none of ross fault, like he told pill, gotta create them hits, tbh ion kno how ross saw anything in stalley in the first place imo
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Release the album independently.
  • davidbrooks
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    i dont know enough about Stalley to provide an opinion, i just wanna comment on the impressive writing tho. All those puns and cliches you incorporated, salute!
  • DNB1
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    I enjoyed the op yo...
    Jamaica wrote: »
    Release the album independently.

    ^This.
  • Stiff
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    Aside from music from what I've seen of Stalley's personality he seems kinda arrogant like he wants a hand-out..I remember when that ? Hit-Boy came out with the song "Jay-Z Interview" and he was ? about the attention it was getting when he put so much effort into his mixtape..and then the breakfast club interview Charlemagne had asked him why he doesn't run with the rest of Maybach more to get his buzz up and he kinda got an attitude saying he doesn't need to run with anybody for a buzz and his buzz is already on their level...and THEN on Twitter he doesn't follow any of his fans back at all..the only person that doesn't follow anybody back is Kanye West that I can think of. It seems like he doesn't get that sometimes it's about more than music, and that's more on him than Ross. He comes off as delusional about his position.
  • RickyRich
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    he dont understand the business .When i watch him on the breakfest club interview it seem like he didnt even want to be there with the whole MMG. Im not a fan of his music at all if hes on a song i fast forward to the other person lol .I think he would leave MMG
  • poindexter2
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    If you dont have it you just dont have it
  • A1000MILES
    A1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He's gonna be Ross's beard donor, should he ever get cancer...? forbid.
  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    He straight boring IMO ....and i don't know why a ? would be arrogant after a few mixtapes if that's true ? 'em maybe he can get and E1 deal..but he might think he too good for that
  • Tymoney19
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    Hes Really a boring ass rapper thats his problem
  • TayJone
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    Just like others have said Stalley thinks he is bigger than he is...Most people dont even know he is in MMG...I like his mixtapes but i dont see him getting even to a Curren$y level
  • RickyRich
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    itried to give him chance but ? was boring .
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Album comin 2014, no need to rush him, in the era of jewgros and thrift shopping ? advocates, a bald crooked tooth muslim is never gonna "blow up". Let him gets some looks on the mmg albums ( he has), tv (he has), and touring (he's gotten some)

    He just released an ep, go cop on itunes

    No sense in throwing a bunch of money at him when he's the type of artist that will have a dedicated fanbase throughout his career


    Anyway I heard he's been in the studio with drake so maybe thatll be a single


    Better question is where's rockie, gunplay's torch's albums
  • Kellmill
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    I agree, and real talk Stalley deserves a lot of the blame. I see no reason why "Party Heart" couldn't have been a single on the radio, it had all the ingredients, even guest spots from 2 Chainz and Rick Ross. But then again how hard would it have been for Ross to get Khaled or his superfriends in the industry to get that song steady burn on the radio
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Kellmill wrote: »
    I agree, and real talk Stalley deserves a lot of the blame. I see no reason why "Party Heart" couldn't have been a single on the radio, it had all the ingredients, even guest spots from 2 Chainz and Rick Ross. But then again how hard would it have been for Ross to get Khaled or his superfriends in the industry to get that song steady burn on the radio

    This comment makes no sense
  • Kellmill
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    Kellmill wrote: »
    I agree, and real talk Stalley deserves a lot of the blame. I see no reason why "Party Heart" couldn't have been a single on the radio, it had all the ingredients, even guest spots from 2 Chainz and Rick Ross. But then again how hard would it have been for Ross to get Khaled or his superfriends in the industry to get that song steady burn on the radio

    This comment makes no sense


    I'm talking about all the behind the scenes that go on in the music industry. The people with the highest influence are the ones pulling the strings. Like a new-aged version of Pay-pal. I believe Khaled and Ross etc. got a lot of influence on the ? that's getting played
  • IceBergTaylor
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    LOL all I needed to know about Stalley was displayed during that Breakfast Club interview
    He's not hot
    Charlemagne knew it
    Ross knows it
    Meek knew it and tried to instigate

    He has no presence at all, just a rappin ass ? .
    I cant see him releasing an album at all but like I always say if ASAP Ferg can.....
  • RickyRich
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    if he does drop an album it will be a flop .Ross don't know what to do wit this ? .
  • S2J
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    I made a Stalley appreciation thread and even I aint readin all that Op lol

    But its simple really: Stalley is not that type of artist. Imo everything he does on MMG is xtra, its gravy. B/c everything about his personality and his content points towrd a Currensy, Z-Ro, Bishop Lamont type career. The thing they all have in common is theyre all not...worldly/trendy/dumb enough to pop. Wale is. Meek is. All these silly new nggas are lol Asap rocky, Big Sean, etc.

    And thats exactly why I ? wit Stalley. Every rapper, especially in this day n age, is not meant for the masses.
  • Kellmill
    Kellmill Members, Writer Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I really don't think he does, he probably regrets it
  • NothingButTheTruth
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  • Trollio
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  • harry knucklez
    harry knucklez Members Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2013
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    Every label has a Memphis Bleek.
  • MrCrookedLetter
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    His baby momma gon get him