Zimbabwe Gives Remaining White Farmers Ultimatum

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AFRICANGLOBE – White farmers in Mashonaland West said they were last week ordered by Zanu PF provincial chairman, Temba Mliswa to vacate African land by May 15 this year or risk unspecified action.

The farmers alleged that Mliswa issued the ultimatum last Friday at Chinhoyi Training Centre at a meeting attended by at least 50 commercial farmers.

But Mliswa yesterday denied that he issued such an ultimatum, saying the farmers came up with that date themselves.

The farmers said the meeting was also attended by the minister of State for Provincial Affairs, Faber Chidarikire, who could not be reached for comment.

One of the settlers, Pieter Zwanikken — who was at the meeting — said Mliswa told them that the directive was in line with Zanu PF’s land policy.

He said they were told in a no-holds-barred meeting that by May 15 this year every White farmer without an offer letter should leave African land.

“He told us that we were at the farms at Zanu PF’s mercy and that come May 15 this year we should wind up activities and leave our farms whether one’s farm is protected by Bilateral Investment Promotion and Protection Agreement or not,” Zwanikken claimed.

Another farmer, who refused to be identified, said even those White commercial farmers who had links with senior Zanu PF members in the province would not be spared.

Mliswa, they said, also warned them against entering into farming arrangements with A2 farmers as the practice was illegal.

He has been at loggerheads with some of his colleagues in Zanu PF whom he accused of applying the party’s land policy selectively by favouring other White farmers ahead of others.

Mashonaland West Affirmative Action Group (AAG) chairman, Clifford Hlupeko said they supported Mliswa’s stance, saying the White settlers had delayed the land reform process by going to the courts.

“Some African farmers with offer letters have not been able to move onto their farms because of the White settlers who had taken the issue to court,” he said.

Hlupeko was however quick to point out that this was not a racial issue as there were White farmers with offer letters in the province.

He urged the government to capacitate new farmers so that the land reform program would not provide “detractors” with an opportunity to rubbish the exercise.

Mliswa refuted allegations that he gave the farmers an ultimatum.

“We have 74 White farmers in the province and 41 of them were recommended to stay put, meaning the rest should leave,” said Mliswa.

“Those who were not recommended to remain on the farms are the ones that came up with this date.”

He however could not explain the criteria used to recommend those who have been allowed to stay on the farms.

Mliswa also said Zanu PF was not discriminatory as 11 White farmers were given offer letters while four were given 99-year leases.

Since the land reform program in 2000 that reclaimed African land from White settlers, the imposition of American and European economic sanctions have helped to ? Zimbabwe’s economy and by extension its farming sector.

The country has been relying on grain imported by government and the private sector to cover the local deficit.

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  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    white people want rights?

    so take away the black rights and treat them unfair but ask to be fair to them.

    and what the fukk is a white african
    is their black asians
    blacks europeans?
    or black south americans

    or are those blacka product of their country an happen to be black?
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    keep ? up the country's economics and acting confused as to why, Zimbabwe
  • Iceberg Slick
    Iceberg Slick Members Posts: 784 ✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    keep ? up the country's economics and acting confused as to why, Zimbabwe

    Removing the white boy dont mean the economy automatically getting ? . You saying ? cant do it on their own and need a white boy to set up shop shut up ? .

  • Undergroundraplegend
    Undergroundraplegend Members Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    keep ? up the country's economics and acting confused as to why, Zimbabwe

    Removing the white boy dont mean the economy automatically getting ? . You saying ? cant do it on their own and need a white boy to set up shop shut up ? .

    janklow isnt white... Well I dont think he is.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2014
    Damn, in a way I sympathize with Zimbabwe because the land Whites do have there was taken by force and blood so it's karma in a way
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    Removing the white boy dont mean the economy automatically getting ? . You saying ? cant do it on their own and need a white boy to set up shop shut up ? .
    is THAT what i am saying? or is it more that you have no argument so you leap IMMEDIATELY to talking idiotic ? based on something you made up?

    Zimbabwe's played this "grab farmland and pass it to Mugabe's cronies" game for years. and yet, mysteriously, it's never resulted in some magical improvement in the economy. they've been "removing the white boy" and having nothing to show for it except, i guess, for Iceberg Slick being proud of them on the internet.

  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    keep ? up the country's economics and acting confused as to why, Zimbabwe

    Removing the white boy dont mean the economy automatically getting ? . You saying ? cant do it on their own and need a white boy to set up shop shut up ? .

    janklow isnt white... Well I dont think he is.

    He could be balding overweight fat white middle aged ? .
    he/she refuses to declare his race and when asked the he/she will only give you some passive aggressive answer
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ehhh, I don't think this is the way to go about things. Sounds like some ? white people would do, but honestly I don't know what the better option would be. I'm sure those white farmers have all the premium land which isn't cool.
  • Black Boy King
    Black Boy King Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes Janklow is european american
  • gns
    gns Members Posts: 21,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm all for white tears.
    Their needs to be competent delegation after retaking the land. Can't just give it to a black farmer, give it to a farm hand that knows the land and can help maintain and improve Zimbabwean agriculture.
  • rahrahrah
    rahrahrah Members Posts: 88 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2014
    Justice is such a messy thing. An eye for an eye is a simple equation neat equation, turning the other cheek is not.

    Descendants of colonizers, are quick to say, "It wasn't me, it was my daddy!" or some other deflection. Imagine if you tried to give the land in the US back to the natives!

    I'm totally in agreement with the principle of getting the wealth of these African nations back into the hand of Africans, and by Africans I mean native Africans, not white people who emigrated to the land no matter how many years ago. But at the same time how do you discredit the investment that these non-black Africans have put into these countries?

    "That's the Past, why can't we just get along?" More often than not the one saying "That's the past" is the one who benefited from the injustice.

    Now there are so many ways that redistribution can go wrong. I'm sure the Zimbabwean government is corrupt, almost by definition government is corrupt, so will they do a good job of ensuring that the farmlands will go to those who are capable of sustaining and improving this industry, or will the land go out as political favors to the well connected?

    It is so easy to be an armchair quarterback, if only it paid well.
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    zombie wrote: »
    he/she refuses to declare his race and when asked the he/she will only give you some passive aggressive answer
    you're still crying about this?

    zombie's got a problem because he insists every topic should be discussed based on a basis of what race everyone is, despite the fact that he can't actually ever demonstrate why it's relevant. also, he's got a weird fascination with man-on-man sex which might say SOMETHING about him, but which is admittedly not relevant to this discussion. moving on!
    Judah Back wrote: »
    Yes Janklow is european american
    this declaration also seems based on hurt feelings, to be honest
    gns wrote: »
    I'm all for white tears.
    Their needs to be competent delegation after retaking the land. Can't just give it to a black farmer, give it to a farm hand that knows the land and can help maintain and improve Zimbabwean agriculture.
    the problem with this is that "sticking it to white farmers" and "competent delegation" are NOT happening at the same time. you really have to decide which is more important; they've been going with the former and it's produced, well, ? results.
  • Black Boy King
    Black Boy King Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    he/she refuses to declare his race and when asked the he/she will only give you some passive aggressive answer
    Judah Back wrote: »
    Yes Janklow is european american
    this declaration also seems based on hurt feelings, to be honest

    Lmao huh
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2014
    Seeing this article makes me understand completely where Zimbabwe is coming from.....look how White Canadians are STILL treating their Native Americans.....they're still trying to steal land and resources from the Native Eskimos there SMH.......

    http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/dru/15493

    ---Personally, if I was president of Zimbabwe, I wouldn't force the White farmers off forcefully but instead tax the ? out of them for stealing the land and water to begin with. The tax money would be used to create more jobs and pay down their crazy debt due to the sanctions from the West and parts of Africa. If they don't comply, I'd kick them the ? out
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rahrahrah wrote: »
    Justice is such a messy thing. An eye for an eye is a simple equation neat equation, turning the other cheek is not.

    Descendants of colonizers, are quick to say, "It wasn't me, it was my daddy!" or some other deflection. Imagine if you tried to give the land in the US back to the natives!

    I'm totally in agreement with the principle of getting the wealth of these African nations back into the hand of Africans, and by Africans I mean native Africans, not white people who emigrated to the land no matter how many years ago. But at the same time how do you discredit the investment that these non-black Africans have put into these countries?

    "That's the Past, why can't we just get along?" More often than not the one saying "That's the past" is the one who benefited from the injustice.

    Now there are so many ways that redistribution can go wrong. I'm sure the Zimbabwean government is corrupt, almost by definition government is corrupt, so will they do a good job of ensuring that the farmlands will go to those who are capable of sustaining and improving this industry, or will the land go out as political favors to the well connected?

    It is so easy to be an armchair quarterback, if only it paid well.

    Co-sign bro
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seeing this article makes me understand completely where Zimbabwe is coming from.....look how White Canadians are STILL treating their Native Americans.....they're still trying to steal land and resources from the Native Eskimos there SMH.......

    http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/dru/15493

    ---Personally, if I was president of Zimbabwe, I wouldn't force the White farmers off forcefully but instead tax the ? out of them for stealing the land and water to begin with. The tax money would be used to create more jobs and pay down their crazy debt due to the sanctions from the West and parts of Africa. If they don't comply, I'd kick them the ? out

    Exactly @ the bold. Kicking the white farmers out and then potentially putting others in who may not have as much expertise working the land will end badly. They'd be much better of raising the taxes and/or making requirements that the white farmers take measure that will help the black farmers grow and thrive.
  • Darth Sidious
    Darth Sidious Members Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2014
    Zimbabwe? You mean Robert Mugabe's fiefdom?

    His bold economic plans of the past have been marvelously successfully leading to this which you can buy on ebay for $30.00

    zimbabwe-2009-100-trillion-dollars-obverse.jpg


    trillion-dollar-wallpaper.jpg
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    Judah Back wrote: »
    Lmao huh
    calling it like i see it
    Zimbabwe? You mean Robert Mugabe's fiefdom?
    His bold economic plans of the past have been marvelously successfully leading to this which you can buy on ebay for $30.00
    one day we're going to realize Mugabe plays these games with white farmers to distract people from his ?

  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rahrahrah wrote: »
    Justice is such a messy thing. An eye for an eye is a simple equation neat equation, turning the other cheek is not.

    Descendants of colonizers, are quick to say, "It wasn't me, it was my daddy!" or some other deflection. Imagine if you tried to give the land in the US back to the natives!

    I'm totally in agreement with the principle of getting the wealth of these African nations back into the hand of Africans, and by Africans I mean native Africans, not white people who emigrated to the land no matter how many years ago. But at the same time how do you discredit the investment that these non-black Africans have put into these countries?

    "That's the Past, why can't we just get along?" More often than not the one saying "That's the past" is the one who benefited from the injustice.

    Now there are so many ways that redistribution can go wrong. I'm sure the Zimbabwean government is corrupt, almost by definition government is corrupt, so will they do a good job of ensuring that the farmlands will go to those who are capable of sustaining and improving this industry, or will the land go out as political favors to the well connected?

    It is so easy to be an armchair quarterback, if only it paid well.

    their investment wasnt because they wanted a better land for all it was for them. they wanted to invest into what was going to make them rich.