Nas vs. Rakim...has the student surpassed the teacher??
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NasBuilt 4 cuban linx wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »The ? is the point of typing "ummmm"? Anyway
So let me get this straight, he sold out for sales on IWW with a positive song called if I ruled the world but because it's a r&b hook he's selling out? And don't bring up the content on the whole album cause it's not like illmatic was on some pro black positively ? either. 2, making a record with diddy is selling out now? That's dumb as ? and 3, that owe me vs black girl lost is weak. But let me ask you, is Tupac a sell out?
what does this have to do with 2pac?? also, explain Biggie's line if I'm talking out my ass
Smh cause you just basically described Tupac
And yes biggie was talking out of his ass and since you're sitting here not forming your own so are you. Can you explain how exactly it was written sounds like nas took biggie style in the first place?
Look Biggie said the ? while you getting all defensive smh. But to humor you, the Escobar/Mafioso ? Nas was on at the time (especially with the Firm and all) was out of character to some extent considering the person he portrayed himself to be on Illmatic. Biggie felt he was swagger jackin the k.o.n.y. ? . I ain't even gonna entertain the 2pac comparison though so miss me with that.
? are you ? ? I know biggie said the ? I've heard the ? millions of times but YOU are the one cosigning it and using it for this conversation so I'm asking you how is it true. Btw you can't "swagger jack" being king of new York " how the hell can you jack thinking you're the best from your state? You say some dumb ? ? And by you not entertaining the Tupac question is showing how full of ? you are. Cause if nas sold out like that then pac did 1000 times over and so did the majority of rappers. That's not selling out. And how different is the content on iww and illmatic? Illmatic is not exactly it takes a nation of millions..... Itself. Dude is selling drugs and robbing candy shops on illmatic also. You i.c ? man smh -
"...So Puff drove his new Range through Queensbridge Projects
He let me drive it, before Ready to Die hit
BIG and I hit blunts performing at the Arc
Next thing you knew, BIG blew and all the balling starts
He had Kim and his crew, I found Fox, only ? in New York with number
one charts
BIG was ahead of his time, him and Raekwon my ?
But dig it, they couldn't get along
That's when Ghostface said it on the Purple tape
Bad Boy biting Nas album cover, wait
BIG told me Rae was stealing my slang
And Rae told me out in Shaolin BIG would do the same thing
But I borrowed from both them ?
Jigga started to flow like us, but hit with 'Ain't No ? '..." -
NasNas= Rakim + Slick Rick.
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NasNas is what happened if the 1980s hip hop had a baby. If my son not better than me, I lost.
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RakimBuilt 4 cuban linx wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »The ? is the point of typing "ummmm"? Anyway
So let me get this straight, he sold out for sales on IWW with a positive song called if I ruled the world but because it's a r&b hook he's selling out? And don't bring up the content on the whole album cause it's not like illmatic was on some pro black positively ? either. 2, making a record with diddy is selling out now? That's dumb as ? and 3, that owe me vs black girl lost is weak. But let me ask you, is Tupac a sell out?
what does this have to do with 2pac?? also, explain Biggie's line if I'm talking out my ass
Smh cause you just basically described Tupac
And yes biggie was talking out of his ass and since you're sitting here not forming your own so are you. Can you explain how exactly it was written sounds like nas took biggie style in the first place?
Look Biggie said the ? while you getting all defensive smh. But to humor you, the Escobar/Mafioso ? Nas was on at the time (especially with the Firm and all) was out of character to some extent considering the person he portrayed himself to be on Illmatic. Biggie felt he was swagger jackin the k.o.n.y. ? . I ain't even gonna entertain the 2pac comparison though so miss me with that.
? are you ? ? I know biggie said the ? I've heard the ? millions of times but YOU are the one cosigning it and using it for this conversation so I'm asking you how is it true. Btw you can't "swagger jack" being king of new York " how the hell can you jack thinking you're the best from your state? You say some dumb ? ? And by you not entertaining the Tupac question is showing how full of ? you are. Cause if nas sold out like that then pac did 1000 times over and so did the majority of rappers. That's not selling out. And how different is the content on iww and illmatic? Illmatic is not exactly it takes a nation of millions..... Itself. Dude is selling drugs and robbing candy shops on illmatic also. You i.c ? man smh
Jungle is that you?? -
NasBuilt 4 cuban linx wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »The ? is the point of typing "ummmm"? Anyway
So let me get this straight, he sold out for sales on IWW with a positive song called if I ruled the world but because it's a r&b hook he's selling out? And don't bring up the content on the whole album cause it's not like illmatic was on some pro black positively ? either. 2, making a record with diddy is selling out now? That's dumb as ? and 3, that owe me vs black girl lost is weak. But let me ask you, is Tupac a sell out?
what does this have to do with 2pac?? also, explain Biggie's line if I'm talking out my ass
Smh cause you just basically described Tupac
And yes biggie was talking out of his ass and since you're sitting here not forming your own so are you. Can you explain how exactly it was written sounds like nas took biggie style in the first place?
Look Biggie said the ? while you getting all defensive smh. But to humor you, the Escobar/Mafioso ? Nas was on at the time (especially with the Firm and all) was out of character to some extent considering the person he portrayed himself to be on Illmatic. Biggie felt he was swagger jackin the k.o.n.y. ? . I ain't even gonna entertain the 2pac comparison though so miss me with that.
? are you ? ? I know biggie said the ? I've heard the ? millions of times but YOU are the one cosigning it and using it for this conversation so I'm asking you how is it true. Btw you can't "swagger jack" being king of new York " how the hell can you jack thinking you're the best from your state? You say some dumb ? ? And by you not entertaining the Tupac question is showing how full of ? you are. Cause if nas sold out like that then pac did 1000 times over and so did the majority of rappers. That's not selling out. And how different is the content on iww and illmatic? Illmatic is not exactly it takes a nation of millions..... Itself. Dude is selling drugs and robbing candy shops on illmatic also. You i.c ? man smh
Jungle is that you??
So now you resort to stealing jokes for the lols smh Anyway go on about your business kid we done here -
RakimAnother thing. Rakim has never made an album as wack as Streets Disciple, Nastradamus or Hip Hop Is Dead
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NasAnother thing. Rakim has never made an album as wack as Streets Disciple, Nastradamus or Hip Hop Is Dead
Nastradamus>>>The Master
And they came out the same year 1999 -
Nas
Pay her no mind, she's a troll -
NasI thought Top 5 DOA went like this:
#1-4: Nas, Pac, B.I.G, & Jay in any order
#5: Rakim -
RakimIf that Rakim vs Big Daddy Kane battle had taken place we wouldn't even be having this discussion...before the Jay Z battle NAS was on a life line...rembember...Rakim was voted as the GOAT Emcce in the Source back in the late 90's even though he hadn't dropped an album in years...
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RakimSo let me get this straight, he sold out for sales on IWW with a positive song called if I ruled the world but because it's a r&b hook he's selling out?
If I Ruled the World
is by
Kurtis Blow, A Hip hop Legend" -
Rakimraheemclassick wrote: »So let me get this straight, he sold out for sales on IWW with a positive song called if I ruled the world but because it's a r&b hook he's selling out?
If I Ruled the World
is by
Kurtis Blow, A Hip hop Legend"
I agree with this and i'm not even a fan. It is simple if a rapper can't do hooks they will get an RnB singer to do it most the time and focus on wat they can do which is spit verses. If a rapper can do hooks they will do it them self it is that simple. So Nas wasn't selling out he just addressed his weakness by getting features for hooks and stuck to his strength rhyming -
Nas
^^^^^I got two nosigns for saying this.
So for the people who no signed me, why do you think The Master is better than Nastradamus?
The Master had two good songs, When I Be On The Mic and Waiting For The World To End (both produced by Premiere)
Nastradamus had a handful of good songs -
Nas could pull some Jim Jones drink the kool-aid ? with some of yall ? .
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Verse for Verse, lyric for lyric they're about even.
However, Nas did more with his career. He got better production and made more albums.
Rakim took a hiatus in the mid 90s while Nas, Big and Pac were blowing up. Then he came back in 1997 with The 18th Letter which was cool but it didn't compare to what Puffy was doing in the mainstream (No Way Out/Life After Death) or what spitters like Wu Tang were doing in the underground (Wu tang Forever).
Rakim didn't fall off lyrically, but ever since he broke up with Eric B he hasn't reached his full potential. Back in High school I thought Eric B was the weak link, But when you look back at Rakim's career he made his best music with Eric B. Everybody thought when he went solo he was going to drop the bomb but his solo work has been more like a firecracker than a bomb.
? ..Rakim was the music because he produced all those records..not Eric B. He was the DJ but every Eric B. and Rakim classic you heard was all RAKIM period..with assistance from the late Paul C and a young Large Professor. -
NasThis is just natural progression.
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RakimDisciplined InSight wrote: »Verse for Verse, lyric for lyric they're about even.
? ..Rakim was the music because he produced all those records..not Eric B. He was the DJ but every Eric B. and Rakim classic you heard was all RAKIM period..with assistance from the late Paul C and a young Large Professor.
Rakim has said in interviews that he made a lot of beats and people just naturally accredited them to eric b. dunno if eric disputes that or what -
NasNas has surpassed Rakim. However, Rakim ranks higher on my list. Also, while the similarities with Rakim are obvious Nas also studied G-Rap, Kane, KRS and other greats which, has helped Nas round out better as an artist.
