What Beef Had the Most Benefit for HipHop as a Culture???

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Soloman_The_Wise
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While it is True Some beefs hurt the game other caused lane change that helped and expanded the game which Beef did the most For Hip Hop???

What Beef Had the Most Benefit for HipHop as a Culture??? 75 votes

BDP(KRS) Versus Juice Crew(Shan)
28%
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NWA Versus NWA(Cube versus Eazy versus Dre)
10%
supergangsterjust.might.b.okIdiopathic JokerShizlansky32DaysOfInfinitiSoloman_The_WiseMelqartBoogaSuga 8 votes
East(Big) Versus West(Pac)
10%
fortyacresKnightryderBussy_Getta Kid DynastyCashmoneyDuxbck145pitt420JoshuaMoshua  8 votes
Nas Versus Jay Z
41%
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Eminem Versus Pop Stars(Too many to List)
4%
dj pre-kEar2DaStjvlioo 3 votes
50 Cent Versus NYC
1%
B_A 1 vote
G-Unit(50) Versus Murder Inc(Ja)
2%
Built 4 cuban linxRickyRich 2 votes
Flip Versus Tip/TI
1%
trendsetta1030 1 vote
Game Versus G -Unit
0%
Kim Versus NIkki Versus Femcees
0%
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  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2014
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    BDP(KRS) Versus Juice Crew(Shan)
    Great thread. I was gonna say nas vs jay but that was on a small scale, we got 2 classic albums in Stillmatic and Blueprint, plus the resurgence of Nas...thats about it

    But w/ BDP? Ngga...Mfers might still be rappin like Curtis Blow if not for that. That was the record that took the gloves off rap and made it ok to be personal, and not rap w/ the same 'hip hop, a hippity, ha ha!' style.
  • 5 Grand
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    Nas Versus Jay Z
    I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.
  • Built 4 cuban linx
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    G-Unit(50) Versus Murder Inc(Ja)
    50 cent vs ja, Cause it got that wack ass ? ja rule the ? outta here
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.
    I did consider adding that to this thread, I decided not to for a few reasons mostly because that was less of a battle and more of a Evolutionary Milestone for the culture and sadly enough the majority of voters have no Familiarity to either of the participants so rather take away from its overall significance I left it out...
    50 cent vs ja, Cause it got that wack ass ? ja rule the ? outta here
    Personally there are just as many Ja Rule Songs I like as there are 50 and personality wise I am more @ peace with Ja But I respect 50's grind and determination more so it tis what tis...

  • bkzlostchild
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    BDP(KRS) Versus Juice Crew(Shan)
    I was going to say Nas vs Jay but BDP vs Juice Crew was pretty big for its time & help lay down the foundation on what beef on wax should be like
  • 5 Grand
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    Nas Versus Jay Z
    S2J wrote: »
    Man yall need to do yall history lol smh BDP crushed a whole style of rap. The origInal purpose of the rapper was basically to tell you how good his DJ/CREW was. Mc Shan was still rappin like that. Just look at the rhyme pattern

    Mc Shan, The Bridge

    Hip hop was set out in the dark
    They used to do it out in the park
    Every place they said his name it rang an alarm
    Otherwise known as Mean Teen Tom
    A brother who's known for his rap
    Jabby Jack, Larry Lah, third least not last
    A cool brother by the name of Gas
    Face Brothers made you get loose
    ...

    Dimples D, the girl, she was great
    Her and Marley Marl went and cut a plate
    They used to rock it out in the place
    And the title of it was 'Sucker DJ's'
    And then he strolled along one day
    And then he walked into a girl named Shante


    1, 2,3...1,2, 3. Repeat, etc. Not even dissin, but like a nursery rhyme. Literally.



    Now BDP, Bridge is Over

    They wish to battle BDP, but they cannot
    They must be on the ? of who? DJ Scott La Rock
    Cause we don't complain nor do we play the game of favors
    Boogie Down Productions comes in three different flavors
    Pick any ? for the flavor that you savor
    Mr. Magic might wish to come and try to save ya
    But instead of helping ya out he wants the same thing I gave ya
    I finally figured it out, Magic mouth is used for sucking
    Roxanne Shante is only good for steady ?
    MC Shan and Marley Marl is really only bluffing
    Like Doug E. Fresh said "I tell you now, you ain't nothing"
    What's the matter with your MC, Marley Marl?
    Don't know you know that he's out of touch
    What's the matter with your DJ, MC Shan?
    On the wheels of steel Marlon sucks
    You'd better change what comes out your speaker
    You're better off talking bout your wack Puma sneaker
    Cause Bronx created hip-hop, Queens will only get dropped
    You're still telling lies to me
    Everybody's talking bout the Juice Crew
    Funny, but you're still telling lies to me


    Just look at the difference in the length of a bar! Plus KRS was actually shyttin on nggas, PERSONALLY. Not to mention he was confident enough to actually... SWITCH his flow!?!?!? On some jamaican ? . Nggas was still doin 1, 2, 1,2, 1, 2 and he came and spit some patois on nggas!!!?! Its a sad day in hip hop if yall dont realize this

    Nosign. Shan goes off in the last verse of The Bridge


    Dead dreams, bought and sold
    You gotta try and receive your goal
    However you do it however you may
    Don't ever listen to what nobody say
    Cause I will tell you the deal
    You gotta go by what your heart feel
    Cause if you don't you'll be misled
    By stupid little things put inside your head
    Or someone else that you will see
    They're trying to lead your destiny
    By the time you think about it you're grown
    Then you say ? I gotta leave my home
    Grab hold of your heavy chain
    Which people always pulling always trying to restrain
    You heard just what I said
    They're always pulling you back when you want to get ahead
    They pull you back cause they're not with it
    You're talking about school
    They're talking about quitting
    Soon you'll see that time does fly
    But you spent most of it out gettin high
    Thought about it much, much later
    Could've went to school and been much greater
    But you chose to lead that fate
    Now you're sucking on a bone when it should've been steak
    The whole purpose of the story I told
    Was mainly to inspire you to reach your goals
    Stop walking through life as if you are blind
    You should reach for your goal cause I'm reaching for mine
    And I'm from

    - The Bridge, MC Shan



    ^^^^^ That's a GOAT verse. Being 41 years old, I totally understand what he's saying at the end of his last verse. He was on a different level than Run DMC and Whodini.

    Also, you spelled J-A-P-P-Y J-A-C-K's name wrong. He was a legendary Queens DJ that used to set up his equipment in the parks in the early years (79/80/81). If you do a google search you should be able to find a picture of him.
  • trendsetta1030
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    Flip Versus Tip/TI
    Lol this a spin off…
    But tha tip n flip got this bcuz it showed tha south wasn't as united as some though lol
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    NWA Versus NWA(Cube versus Eazy versus Dre)
    5 Grand wrote: »
    S2J wrote: »
    Man yall need to do yall history lol smh BDP crushed a whole style of rap. The origInal purpose of the rapper was basically to tell you how good his DJ/CREW was. Mc Shan was still rappin like that. Just look at the rhyme pattern

    Mc Shan, The Bridge

    Hip hop was set out in the dark
    They used to do it out in the park
    Every place they said his name it rang an alarm
    Otherwise known as Mean Teen Tom
    A brother who's known for his rap
    Jabby Jack, Larry Lah, third least not last
    A cool brother by the name of Gas
    Face Brothers made you get loose
    ...

    Dimples D, the girl, she was great
    Her and Marley Marl went and cut a plate
    They used to rock it out in the place
    And the title of it was 'Sucker DJ's'
    And then he strolled along one day
    And then he walked into a girl named Shante


    1, 2,3...1,2, 3. Repeat, etc. Not even dissin, but like a nursery rhyme. Literally.



    Now BDP, Bridge is Over

    They wish to battle BDP, but they cannot
    They must be on the ? of who? DJ Scott La Rock
    Cause we don't complain nor do we play the game of favors
    Boogie Down Productions comes in three different flavors
    Pick any ? for the flavor that you savor
    Mr. Magic might wish to come and try to save ya
    But instead of helping ya out he wants the same thing I gave ya
    I finally figured it out, Magic mouth is used for sucking
    Roxanne Shante is only good for steady ?
    MC Shan and Marley Marl is really only bluffing
    Like Doug E. Fresh said "I tell you now, you ain't nothing"
    What's the matter with your MC, Marley Marl?
    Don't know you know that he's out of touch
    What's the matter with your DJ, MC Shan?
    On the wheels of steel Marlon sucks
    You'd better change what comes out your speaker
    You're better off talking bout your wack Puma sneaker
    Cause Bronx created hip-hop, Queens will only get dropped
    You're still telling lies to me
    Everybody's talking bout the Juice Crew
    Funny, but you're still telling lies to me


    Just look at the difference in the length of a bar! Plus KRS was actually shyttin on nggas, PERSONALLY. Not to mention he was confident enough to actually... SWITCH his flow!?!?!? On some jamaican ? . Nggas was still doin 1, 2, 1,2, 1, 2 and he came and spit some patois on nggas!!!?! Its a sad day in hip hop if yall dont realize this

    Nosign. Shan goes off in the last verse of The Bridge


    Dead dreams, bought and sold
    You gotta try and receive your goal
    However you do it however you may
    Don't ever listen to what nobody say
    Cause I will tell you the deal
    You gotta go by what your heart feel
    Cause if you don't you'll be misled
    By stupid little things put inside your head
    Or someone else that you will see
    They're trying to lead your destiny
    By the time you think about it you're grown
    Then you say ? I gotta leave my home
    Grab hold of your heavy chain
    Which people always pulling always trying to restrain
    You heard just what I said
    They're always pulling you back when you want to get ahead
    They pull you back cause they're not with it
    You're talking about school
    They're talking about quitting
    Soon you'll see that time does fly
    But you spent most of it out gettin high
    Thought about it much, much later
    Could've went to school and been much greater
    But you chose to lead that fate
    Now you're sucking on a bone when it should've been steak
    The whole purpose of the story I told
    Was mainly to inspire you to reach your goals
    Stop walking through life as if you are blind
    You should reach for your goal cause I'm reaching for mine
    And I'm from

    - The Bridge, MC Shan



    ^^^^^ That's a GOAT verse. Being 41 years old, I totally understand what he's saying at the end of his last verse. He was on a different level than Run DMC and Whodini.

    Also, you spelled J-A-P-P-Y J-A-C-K's name wrong. He was a legendary Queens DJ that used to set up his equipment in the parks in the early years (79/80/81). If you do a google search you should be able to find a picture of him.

    A great example of the Competition in the game advancing it forward...
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    50 had everyone coming at him
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY1oCLBFR6U
  • Lab Baby
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    Nas Versus Jay Z
    Most of those beefs were on some industry ? . At least Jay and Nas battled it out and dapped it up like men.
  • supergangster
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    50 cent vs ja, Cause it got that wack ass ? ja rule the ? outta here

    jarule > 50
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    NWA Versus NWA(Cube versus Eazy versus Dre)
    The amount of talent that came from NWA, plus the legendary music that came from the beef is unparalleled.




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    This album began a legendary war. The song Real ? took shots at Ice Cube, the one time member that quit the group. A decent song, but while they were throwing shots, Cube was preparing a ? Nuke.



    NWA - Real ? : https://youtu.be/RzIacRjHrmU




    Ice_Cube-Death_Certificate_album_cover_zpsklygtxre.jpg


    Ice Cubes masterpiece. A album that defined westcoast music, earning Cube respect nationwide. It also produced what many call the greatest diss of all time, No Vaseline.


    Ice Cube - No Vaseline: https://youtu.be/NkEcNmBPlVg

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    Dre smartened up like Cube and left NWA to start Deathrow Records with Suge Knight and create quite possibly the most influential album of the past 30 years in music. Dre and his new prodigy Snoop Doggy Dogg took the first shots at his former employer Eazy-E on a diss song that almost came out of nowhere.

    Dr. Dre Ft. Snoop Dogg - Dre Day [ HD Uncut ? …: https://youtu.be/3t0R10dXJxk



    Eazy-E_ItsOnAlbumCover_zpsgkepusvb.jpg


    Eazy-E replied to Dre's disses on The Chronic with a reply still considered one of the Goats. Real ? G's was a vicious verbal assault on Dr. Dre, Snoop, and Deathrow Records.

    Eazy E-Real Mother ? G's: https://youtu.be/9La1ZO2tW8s
  • Soloman_The_Wise
    Soloman_The_Wise Members Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NWA Versus NWA(Cube versus Eazy versus Dre)
    JokerKing wrote: »
    The amount of talent that came from NWA, plus the legendary music that came from the beef is unparalleled.




    hqdefault_zpsgu8vxtvu.jpg



    This album began a legendary war. The song Real ? took shots at Ice Cube, the one time member that quit the group. A decent song, but while they were throwing shots, Cube was preparing a ? Nuke.



    NWA - Real ? : https://youtu.be/RzIacRjHrmU




    Ice_Cube-Death_Certificate_album_cover_zpsklygtxre.jpg


    Ice Cubes masterpiece. A album that defined westcoast music, earning Cube respect nationwide. It also produced what many call the greatest diss of all time, No Vaseline.


    Ice Cube - No Vaseline: https://youtu.be/NkEcNmBPlVg

    Dr.DreTheChronic_zpsmgawofth.jpg


    Dre smartened up like Cube and left NWA to start Deathrow Records with Suge Knight and create quite possibly the most influential album of the past 30 years in music. Dre and his new prodigy Snoop Doggy Dogg took the first shots at his former employer Eazy-E on a diss song that almost came out of nowhere.

    Dr. Dre Ft. Snoop Dogg - Dre Day [ HD Uncut ? …: https://youtu.be/3t0R10dXJxk



    Eazy-E_ItsOnAlbumCover_zpsgkepusvb.jpg


    Eazy-E replied to Dre's disses on The Chronic with a reply still considered one of the Goats. Real ? G's was a vicious verbal assault on Dr. Dre, Snoop, and Deathrow Records.

    Eazy E-Real Mother ? G's: https://youtu.be/9La1ZO2tW8s

    I damn near want to create a bunch of alias to keep goating you on this post, real ? real talk supreme post...
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  • The Recipe
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    This ? listed em vs pop acts, nicki vs kim and flip vs ti you might as well throw in ti vs shawty lo. But didnt have beanie vs jada.

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  • The Recipe
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    The Recipe wrote: »
    This ? listed em vs pop acts, nicki vs kim and flip vs ti you might as well throw in ti vs shawty lo. But didnt have beanie vs jada.

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    tumblr_mfq3x4VTVi1r8y6uio1_400.gif

    T lie, t lie top 3 funniest "beefs"
  • MECCA1000
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    Common vs. Cube ....... made cats sit up and take a bigger look at the mid west ..........