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edited December 2014 in The Social Lounge
thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/03/arabs-are-the-michael-browns-of-israel.html
ARABS ARE THE MICHAEL BROWNS OF ISRAEL


The shooting took place in early November and was captured on video. The assailant, whose skin shade was different from the cops’, was carrying what has been described by the police as a knife, which he used to bang on the window of a parked police car. After a few moments, four officers exited the vehicle, causing the man to turn and walk away quickly. As can be seen in the video, one police officer then shot the man several times in the back. After the shooting, the police dragged the man’s limp body from the street to the police vehicle. He died a short time later.

Scene from an American city? Nope. Try Israel. The victim was 22-year-old Khayr al-Din Hamdan, an Arab-Israeli citizen, and the shooting by Israeli security forces took place in the northern Israeli city of Kafr Kanna. But it sounds disturbingly like too many incidents that happen in America, and in the past week or two, a number of observers have made the comparison.

There are limits to the parallels between Kafr Kanna and Ferguson. Most notably, in Ferguson, all agree that Michael Brown was unarmed. And it is true of course that American police departments aren’t literally an occupying army, and yes, African Americans have more rights than Palestinians have. But the point is that many people in black communities perceive nearly all-white police forces as being not so different from an occupying army.

Hamdan’s father, echoing what many stated in Ferguson, asked, “Why didn’t they spray him with tear gas or shoot him in the foot?”

Thus, there are similarities. Hamdan’s father sounded a lot like parents of black U.S. police shooting victims when he asked, “Why didn’t they spray him with tear gas or shoot him in the foot?” African Americans and Palestinians view their situations in similar terms, as yet one more time when a member of their community has been unjustly killed by the police. Both feel unfairly targeted, both share a sense that their lives don’t matter that much to the police, and both rarely feel that their respective legal systems deliver them justice.


And sure, we can debate whether from a legal point of view these shootings were justified. However, the perceptions of both of these communities cannot simply be dismissed despite what some on the right in both countries are arguing for us to do.

In the case of blacks in America, it’s undisputed that they are disproportionally more likely to be killed by a police officer than a white person. As Pro Publica recently noted, blacks age 15 to 19 have a 21 times greater chance of being killed by the police than white teens. In fact the police have killed six African American teens since Michael Brown, and that doesn’t even include Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old boy killed last week by the Cleveland police.

In Israel, we see an unsettling similarity. As Sarit Michaeli, a spokesperson for the Israeli human rights group B’tselem recently told a reporter for McClatchy, it’s “extremely rare” for charges to be brought against Israeli border police or soldiers for killing Palestinians. And in the Palestinian community, the close proximity to the summer's Gaza conflict has added to the sense, rightly or wrongly, that Palestinian lives simply don't matter that much to Israeli security forces.

As the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz noted in May, over the past two years, 18 investigations were conducted to determine whether Israeli military police officers had wrongfully killed Palestinians in the West Bank. Of those, only one led to a conviction. Distressingly, in that case the Israeli police officer was sentenced to just seven months in jail after being found guilty of killing an unarmed Palestinian.

And as the Israeli NGO Yesh Din has documented, that penalty is actually on the high end. Among the 18 members of the Israeli security forces convicted for the wrongful killing of Palestinians since 2000, most received a few months in jail or even just a suspended sentence (the lone exception being an eight-year prison sentence, but that was handed out in connection with the wrongful killing of a British citizen, not a Palestinian.)

This is likely why Palestinians have flooded social media expressing solidarity for the Ferguson protesters and echoing their calls for justice. Some Palestinians even offered the Ferguson protesters tips on how to deal with the tear gas being shot at them based on their own experiences with the Israeli security forces.

Even on the Israeli side some have recognized the similarities. For example, a recent Times of Israel op-ed penned by Robert Wilkes, a self described leader of the pro-Israel community in the Seattle area, set forth what he views as “nine parallels between Palestine and Ferguson.” However, he saw the overlap of interests as being horribly negative.
For example, Wilkes wrote that American blacks and Palestinians “both wish to undermine the state’s moral authority by provoking violent reactions, then portraying themselves as victims of oppression.” He also opined that “both have perfectly wretched leaders. Black leaders in America are con artists and a disgrace,” going as far as calling them “race hustlers.”


I truly wish I could say that in the future we will see fewer black and Palestinian teenagers die at the hands of the police in their respective countries. But I can’t. Tragically these stories will continue until a fundamental change in police tactics is implemented, which will also require addressing the very complex issue of institutional and societal racism. I wonder how many innocent people have to die before that happens.

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  • Melqart
    Melqart Guests, Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nah. I believe that crown belongs to the Ethiopians of Israel.
  • AZTG
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    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.
  • Olorun22
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    Um isreal is black people's land and north Africa is to
  • _Menace_
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    It's deep than rap

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  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran
  • leftcoastkev
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    Well US police forces are being trained by the Israeli army and their are US police offices in Israel too so what can you expect?
  • _Menace_
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    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Oh ok. yall watch too much FOX and CNN

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  • _Menace_
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    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.
  • zombie
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.

    Who gives a ? Arabs ? non muslim Arabs. The problem over there
    is Islam in Sudan black Arabs enslaved and slaughtered Christians and pagans. ? the Arabs period.

    Those ? muslim Arabs sell rum to blacks in America but don't drink it themselves
  • zombie
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    ? Arabs still have slaves in mauritania. ? the Arabs.
  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.

    Who gives a ? Arabs ? non muslim Arabs. The problem over there
    is Islam in Sudan black Arabs enslaved and slaughtered Christians and pagans. ? the Arabs period.

    Those ? muslim Arabs sell rum to blacks in America but don't drink it themselves

    Fool Muslims don't drink Alcohol. You act like they're forcing people to drinking rum
  • indyman87
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    I feel sorry for the Arabs killed in Palestine by the government of Israel but they are not indigenous to the area. They are poor migrate people from surrounding Muslim countries taken advantage of by the political structure of Palestine. just like the government of Israel they're fraudulent.

    http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/02/09/spotlight-palestinians-indigenous-people-palestine/

    Palestinians are not the Indigenous people of the Holy Land

    The Palestinian narrative, which is now widely accepted as a fact of history around the world, is the result of a systematic indoctrination through propaganda.

    The Palestinians are neither the “Indians” nor the “Africans” of the Holy Land:
    * From the 12th century BCE until 135 CE Jews were the largest ethnic- religious group.
    * From 135 CE until the 14th century the Helenistic population which was converted to Christianity during the 4th-5th century were the largest religious group.
    * On the eve of the Ottoman conquest (1516) the population of the land west to the Jordan River numbered 120,000, mostly Muslim for the first time in history. But, the country was very densely populated.
    * From the 16th century until the last decades of the 19th century the population numbered about 250,000.
    * Most Palestinians immigrated to the Holy Land between the 19th and 20th centuries, during the Ottoman rule (1516 – 1918) and the British Mandate rule (1918 – 1948).

    Students in this video at around the 3:40 mark speak about how the Greek white washed all of the Black Hebrew records which is in the King James bible Apocrypha verses 1:1, 1:9 Maccabees 3:48

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nySOKjkENOQ
  • indyman87
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    That should be around the 9:40 mark not 3:40
  • AZTG
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Bruh. Im from the middle east. There is not one arabic country in which arab christians arent persecuted.

    And im muslim so its not like im backing christians cause im christian. Cmon man.
  • zombie
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.

    Who gives a ? Arabs ? non muslim Arabs. The problem over there
    is Islam in Sudan black Arabs enslaved and slaughtered Christians and pagans. ? the Arabs period.

    Those ? muslim Arabs sell rum to blacks in America but don't drink it themselves

    Fool Muslims don't drink Alcohol. You act like they're forcing people to drinking rum

    That's my whole ? point ? they don't drink alcohol themselves but they will gladly sell it to us Because they don't give a ? about us
  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.

    Who gives a ? Arabs ? non muslim Arabs. The problem over there
    is Islam in Sudan black Arabs enslaved and slaughtered Christians and pagans. ? the Arabs period.

    Those ? muslim Arabs sell rum to blacks in America but don't drink it themselves

    Fool Muslims don't drink Alcohol. You act like they're forcing people to drinking rum

    That's my whole ? point ? they don't drink alcohol themselves but they will gladly sell it to us Because they don't give a ? about us

    Are you serious right now? Alcohol is sold everywhere around the world.
    They sell it just like anyone other liqour store would.
    It's not like a gun is being put to your head and you're being forced to buy it.

    You sound dumb as ? my dude. Too much ignorance in your post
    You dont have to buy the rum lol
  • zombie
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Arabs will ? all Christians? You do know they're Arabs who are christian as well?

    Lol ? a book open before you type.

    Arabs hate Christians. Do some research on Iran

    Arabs are christian to. Not Just Muslims.
    Yall not understanding what's really going on.

    Who gives a ? Arabs ? non muslim Arabs. The problem over there
    is Islam in Sudan black Arabs enslaved and slaughtered Christians and pagans. ? the Arabs period.

    Those ? muslim Arabs sell rum to blacks in America but don't drink it themselves

    Fool Muslims don't drink Alcohol. You act like they're forcing people to drinking rum

    That's my whole ? point ? they don't drink alcohol themselves but they will gladly sell it to us Because they don't give a ? about us

    Are you serious right now? Alcohol is sold everywhere around the world.
    They sell it just like anyone other liqour store would.
    It's not like a gun is being put to your head and you're being forced to buy it.

    You sound dumb as ? my dude. Too much ignorance in your post
    You dont have to buy the rum lol

    I don't know if you are stupid or just missing the point. Muslim Arabs have no problems helping other people engage in negative activities that islam forbids them from doing. All the while they make money from black people doing this same forbidden activity.

    You don't see a moral problem with that??? Are you black and are you a muslim
  • Focal Point
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    Seriously there are some asinine posts in here.
  • deathrowzorrow
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    Muslims is the best people in the world.
  • SneakDZA
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    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Then why didn't they do that in the hundreds of years between the crusades and the end of WW2?

    Read a history book my brotha.
  • AZTG
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    First of all ? isreal.

    But second ? them Arabs too. Arabs aint any ? better. Turn the situation around and the arabs will ? all the jews and christians who live in Isreal and give them no rights.

    In Iraq soon as the US forces pulled out, Arabs first killed and discriminated against Christians, then when the christians left they began killing themselves.

    In Syria, the reason the US doesnt go after Assad is cause they dont trust any Arab government that will replace Assad. They have no one. Soon as Assad gets taken out the "moderate" Arab regime that replaces Assad will ? the Alewites, then Christians, then Kurds, and then other Arabs.

    These are two examples, i can name 10 more easily.

    So yea ? Isreal for what their doing but Arabs aint the victims.

    Then why didn't they do that in the hundreds of years between the crusades and the end of WW2?

    Read a history book my brotha.

    During the Crusades, the leaders of the muslims worlds werent Arabs. Salahadin, the great leader during the Crusades, the biggest one were the generosity of Muslims were talked about was Kurdish. He put the rules in place and made sure his armies treated Christians and Jewish armies with respect and pillage and ? when they won battles.

    After Salahadin rulled the Muslim world, most of the Muslim world was ruled by the Seljuk Turks and then the Ottoman Turks, they also had rules of not pillaging. Other half of the Muslim world was ruled by Iran, who until the Ayatollahs took over were way more moderate.

    After world war 1, arabs got their autonomy from the Ottamans, and they been killing themselves and others since.

    The Koran preaches peace and respect against Christians and Jews and a lot of these Arabic countries do not even allow Christianity and Judiasm to be practiced.

    All i meant by my post is that minorities in Arabic countries are being persecuted against and those same Arabs are screaming foul against Isreal.

    This is not me supporting Isreal btw. Cause ? Isreal. What they doing to palestinians aint right at all.
  • PapaDoc223
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    Christianity and Islam are b oth the same to me. Both are religions by foreigners used to enslave,oppress black people. ? both religions.