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Felons can NOT vote, but ex-felons CAN vote.
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? need to stop smoking weed. It is detrimental.
Plus your not using it right anyway. -
? need to stop smoking weed. It is detrimental.
Plus your not using it right anyway.Where do you stand on prop19?Regulate,Control,and Tax Cannabis Act
I will be voting NO! on this proposition.
f*ck the haters! vote yes! -
this wouldnt be good for drug dealers
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Think of the children!!!!!!!!!
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I vote no for controlling a plant. It should be decriminalized all together. I don't even want to call it 'legalizing' because that would be like calling an Atheist religious. How ? can you legalize a plant? Something that grows naturally out of the earth is 'legal'? foh with that.
Anyone should be able to grow ? without anyone else in their business. -
Not really crazy about. Legalize it, period.
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Real talk i agree with you bro with all this money they spending on tryna stop marijuana they could be using that money to feed and house the poor or something they trippinI vote no for controlling a plant. It should be decriminalized all together. I don't even want to call it 'legalizing' because that would be like calling an Atheist religious. How ? can you legalize a plant? Something that grows naturally out of the earth is 'legal'? foh with that.
Anyone should be able to grow ? without anyone else in their business. -
Hope all the people voting for this educate themselves on other stuff on the ballots in November
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exlpain why noyWhere do you stand on prop19?Regulate,Control,and Tax Cannabis Act
I will be voting NO! on this proposition. -
? need to stop smoking weed. It is detrimental.
Plus your not using it right anyway.
lol, whats the right way bro -
when they make weed a treatment for our Parkinsons you'll be sorry.Where do you stand on prop19?Regulate,Control,and Tax Cannabis Act
I will be voting NO! on this proposition. -
I support this. Weed should never be illegal, if it was legal, the taxes we could put on it would cut the deficit by at least 30%. But of course, our politicians are too stupid to realize that.
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lol, whats the right way bro
Make a soup or tea out of it. In certain parts of Southern Africa, they use it to dispel sickness
Once you put fire to something it changes the chemical composition of it and renders it properties different.
Besides the human lungs were not made to ingest smoke. -
Make a soup or tea out of it. In certain parts of Southern Africa, they use it to dispel sickness
Once you put fire to something it changes the chemical composition of it and renders it properties different.
Besides the human lungs were not made to ingest smoke.
If cigarettes are legal and cause much greater diseases than weed can ever cause, why should weed be illegal? Cigarettes are more addictive than heroin, yet the Federal Govt has no problems taxing it......weed is proven to be much safer to use than cigs, so what's the big deal?
Weed is often used to treat ? patients and cancer patients all over the world.....it has much more benefits than negatives. Besides, the economy needs a new industry BADLY. If Obama was to legalize it, his approval ratings on the economy would double......but of course, he's too close minded to see that.
Ah well!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let the economy keep suffering!!!!!!!!!! No big deal!!!!!!!!!!! -
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IMO using weed to generate additional taxes and solve our financial problems/woes will NOT work but,in fact create more problems in the long run.
In many states including my own (Calif.) the possession of less than an ounce is considered an infraction and your cited and will have to pay a very small fine *(less than 100 bucks).
Incidentally to the two fools who keep on keeping on about me and some supposed affliction I have are totally full of ? & your insinuation is and has always been BOGUS.
FYI if anyone actually followed the last time this subject (weed) came up they would know how I feel about this herb i.e.,about-it & for medicinal purposes.
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http://www.canorml.org/laws/calmjlaws.html
What problems would legalizing weed cause?? The economy is in DESPERATE, DESPERATE condition.........a new industry is needed badly, and weed can be that new industry. This nation is going more bankrupt than MC Hammer in 1995.....? is going very bad for many people out here. People can't really save for retirement because the cost of living is increasing faster than wages are. States need the revenue, especially since all these wars in the Middle East are bankrupting our treasury.
If weed was to be legalized, I guarantee the economy would pick up steam and grow at a sky high rate......but you LOVE the dismal state of this economy, don't you? You're a ? if you believe this country (world really) does NOT need weed revenue.
Oh well, let's let the drug dealers have all the money. We can always steal resources from Afghanistan anyway. Too bad the cost of living is STILL going to go up. -
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http://wjmc.blogspot.com/2010/07/main-street-depression-has-descended.html
At this point, I see nothing coming from Washington, Wall Street, or overseas that can avert what is now a Main Street Depression in America. The reality of persistently high unemployment, the unprecedented and expanding number of foreclosures, the rising tide of regional and local bank failures, the dearth of investment capital for small business expansion, and the devastating deflation in home prices across the nation is indisputable. The Main Street Depression of the early 21st century is imploding America at its heart...
And we still don't want to create a new industry in weed?? Wow, just wow. Obama, if you lose in 2012, I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU. YOU WILL HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO LOSE YOU JOB after wasting money in AFghanistan and failing to do ANYTHING to help the economy (minus the stimulus bill, you get credit for that). -
Phiillip Morris (Big Tobacco company) bought 400 acres of land... They know that bill is getting passed.... Also... Only thing that worries me is these companies that are going to be making money off of weed are going to start adding addictive additives like they do with cigarette's...
If there's anything addictive that companies put into weed if it does get legalized, I'll go back to buying from my ? Feto, Bang, and Joe off the block. At least I know they don't add addictive substances into my herb......or do they...?
Either way, weed is not something people should be smoking all the time anyway. Moderation is the key to everything in life....sex, weed, video games, roller coasters, whatever. Just be disciplined and weed smokers like myself should be good. -
weed is best blended then juiced with apples and lemons or kale and apples.
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this right here is my source... for the info I put out...
Yesterday on our daily webcast for NORML we interviewed Dale Sky Clare, a spokesperson for Proposition 19, the initiative that will ask Californians to vote on a very limited form of marijuana legalization. We discussed the latest polling on the initiative from SurveyUSA, showing a 50%-to-40% lead for the measure.
We dug through the demographics to find that older and more conservative people are the only groups more likely to oppose the measure (no, really?), support is greatest among the young and in the Bay Area (who knew?), and support among comedians named “Cheech” or “Chong” is approaching 100% (OK, I made the last one up.)
But there is one growing demographic group that no poll has begun to track: medical marijuana dispensary owners.
Since the Regulate, Control, and Tax Cannabis Initiative was mercifully truncated to a headline-friendly “Prop 19″ by virtue of making it on the California ballot, I have been tracking on our NORML Stash Blog the stories of dispensary owners who are publicly opposing the legalization of the product they sell, even shelling out money they’ve made from selling marijuana to oppose its legalization!
Paul Jury just posted Legalize It? Ask a Guy Who Runs a Medicinal Marijuana Dispensary in which he speaks to Craig, a dispensary owner in Venice Beach, who is also opposed to Prop 19:
“I’ll give you two reasons,” Craig said. “One is big tobacco. Did you know that Phillip Morris just bought 400 acres of land up in Northern California? The minute marijuana becomes legal, they’ll mass produce and flood the market. And of course, they’ll add the same toxins they put in regular cigarettes to get you addicted, and very little THC, so you’ll have to buy more… In short, they’re going to ruin weed.” He gestured around his beloved shop, with every flavor of every strain, in its purist form, selling for at-cost prices. “I like the way things are now.”
Gee, there seems to be a whole lot of different "strains" of beer, even in Los Angeles!
Remember how alcohol prohibition ended in the 1930’s (probably not, but indulge me) and Anheuser, Busch, Coors, and Miller flooded the market with 3.2 beer and ruined alcohol? Wouldn’t it be nice if we could go to shops with every flavor of every micro-brew, in its purest form… oh, wait, I live in Portland, Oregon, the micro-brew capital of America and that’s what we have right now under alcohol legalization!
We have every flavor and potency of beer you can imagine plus people can go buy a kit and brew their own beer if they like. And there is wine, too, with a huge tourist industry that depends on people checking out vineyards and tasting endless varieties of vino. And there is whiskey, rum, tequila, vodka, brandy, and even super-potent Everclear in some states, all in their purest form, which is to say that used responsibly they won’t make you blind like a tub of Prohibition moonshine might.
The “Philip Morris / RJ Reynolds Toxic Addictive High-less Marijuana Market Flood” scare has been floating around the cannabis community like a stale hit of schwag for decades now. It’s a form of conspiracy theory thinking embraced by the kind of people who think you could plant 40,000 lbs. of explosives surreptitiously in a busy World Trade Center or convince all the world’s scientists and a very large soundstage crew to keep quiet about that faked moon landing for four decades. Here’s why it’s stupid:
* Prop 19 allows you to grow your own. If Philip Morris’ weed sucks, you’ll smoke your own or your friend’s.
* Prop 19 allows cities to consider sales. Bad toxic Philip Morris weed is the kind of competition a purveyor of hand-trimmed, non-keifed*, organic high-potency bud would want, wouldn’t she?
* Prop 19 allows cities to regulate production. They can dictate exactly what is or isn’t added to cannabis, how much is produced, by whom, and where.
* In order for Philip Morris to sell their weed, somebody has to want to smoke it. Nothing about Prop 19 makes Prop 215 or the dispensaries go away. In fact, it gives the existing dispensaries the potential to serve even more customers. So who’s buying this toxic addictive high-less marijuana?
Actually, it worked quite well if your goal is to build large profitable murderous criminal enterprises...
No, if you want to really understand what is going on here, look back to that alcohol prohibition and ask yourself how excited Al Capone was reading the headlines trumpeting its imminent repeal. It’s not a perfect analogy, as Capone was a murderous criminal thug and these dispensary owners are law-abiding businesspeople. And yes, dispensary owners, like Craig, often help destitute cancer patients for free, though one could counter that Capone and his gangs gave out free turkeys on Thanksgiving. My main point is that both are businesspeople dealing in a prohibited product.
Or just look back to the article on Craig:
He gestured around his beloved shop, with every flavor of every strain, in its purist form, selling for at-cost prices. “I like the way things are now.”
“Last month,” Craig explained proudly, “there were 24 operating marijuana collectives in Venice. A month from now, there will only be two. And we’ll be one of them.” With that, he opened the door to the inner sanctum. The “product” room.
Discount Relief Collective at this year's "Spring Gathering" in San Bernardino, advertising "Nothing over $45 / eighth. $15 for all grams."
Now, if you ran a business where you could sell your product for $5-$15 per GRAM or $200 to $800 per OUNCE, and you only had to compete with one other business in your local area, would you be excited about the prospect of many more competitors and prices dropping as much as 80%? Most of your customers already got their Prop 215 recommendation, so it isn’t as if legalization is going to bring you enough additional customers to offset the change in business margins.
Prop 19 means that marijuana retailers become more like other retail businesses, instead of the loosely-regulated turnkey goldmines they have been. That’s what Craig doesn’t like. Well, that and kids smoking ? :
“Two, legalization will mean more fifteen-year-old kids smoking ? . … If they legalize marijuana, there’s no chance that fewer 15-year-olds will smoke. And there’s a good chance that more will. Anything that will probably make more 15-year-olds put substances in their bodies, in my opinion, is a bad thing.”
Really, the “What About the Children?!?” argument? Right now, under prohibition, 85% of high school seniors and 69% of sophomores (a.k.a. fifteen-year-olds) find it easy to get weed. Right now, under prohibition, kids say it is easier to buy marijuana than alcohol. So it appears to me that locking up healthy adults for their marijuana use hasn’t really done much to stop teens from getting and using ? . How about we try letting adults smoke a joint, and when they go to buy it, they buy it from a regulated shop where only adults are let in and all IDs are rigorously checked, you know, like that alcohol kids find harder to buy.
More 15-year-olds smoke ? than tobacco... because we've really succeeded in preventing tobacco use among teens... and we didn't lock up a single adult to achieve this!
Besides, there is no reason to believe that youth use will increase. Since California passed Prop 215 in 1996, the regime Craig likes now, teen use of marijuana has decreased. Prop 19 makes the penalty for supplying weed to those under 21 as stringent as supplying alcohol to those under 21. And we’ve seen teen use of tobacco, a legal substance far cheaper and more addictive than marijuana, plummet in the past ten years through education, advertising restriction, social disapproval (no indoor smoking, for example) and strict ID requirements.
Craig and the other dispensary owners who oppose Prop 19 are the “I Gots Mine” element of the anti-legalization campaign. They’ve got the corner on a retail market worth billions, one that is only worth billions if you arrest 850,000 mostly-black-and-brown adults a year for participating in it. They’ve got their doctors happy to take a Benjamin or two to give you permission to use a drug safer than the aspirin you need no permission for. I wouldn’t want people to vote to change that, either…
…except that I think it’s just immoral to arrest people for smoking weed if we’re going to leave them alone when drinking alcohol. I don’t care if it is profitable to the state or detrimental to the dispensary industry – arrests for marijuana are wrong, period.
*”Kiefed” means to shake loose the crystals of THC from the product before packaging for sale. The crystals, or “kief” are collected and smoked or vaporized, and, being THC crystals, are very effective. Philip Morris will certainly need to use huge machines to process weed, which will certainly shake loose a lot of kief. One grower friend of mine says he will advertise for his prized buds with the slogan “Don’t let ‘em thief the kief!”
Very interesting.....I would not worry about all that. The one good thing about capitalism is that if one company ? up, there will always be another company that will smarten up. I would relax on the THC issue.....if Phillip Morris makes subpar weed, they will simply lose customers.....and another one will pick up the slack. Weed will be just fine if big industry picks it up. -
melanated khemist wrote: »weed is best blended then juiced with apples and lemons or kale and apples.
Really? I'll try that out tonight when I get toasty while listening to my favorite R&B album of the moment, Thank Me Later.
I also have had excellent results smoking a joint or blunt that's been in the freezer for a minute or two.
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