Superman Prime vs Thanos

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  • BangEm_Bart
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    I always thought Thanos was a bit overrated. Superstrength, lazerbeams, a lil agile, telepathy and smart. Whatelse??? Superman has the same stuff and more. Telepathy doesn't work on him though.
  • veikuri
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    I always thought Thanos was a bit overrated. Superstrength, lazerbeams, a lil agile, telepathy and smart. Whatelse??? Superman has the same stuff and more. Telepathy doesn't work on him though.

    You on ? or just a crazed fanboy?
  • BangEm_Bart
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    Not a fanboy neither do I like superman but they seem just about the same. I always thought Silver Surfer was way more powerful than Thanos.
  • veikuri
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    Not a fanboy neither do I like superman but they seem just about the same. I always thought Silver Surfer was way more powerful than Thanos.

    True. And i always thought Batman was physically stronger than Superman
  • Bcotton5
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    Have you seen what happens when silver surfer fights Thanos?
  • jaxn
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    I honestly think regular superman might be a tied with Thanos so superman prime would wipe the floor with him.

    Nah, Thanos is >>>> Superman phyiscally and in energy projection
  • jaxn
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    Thanos has always been a beast, even before his Death upgrade
  • Triple B's
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    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.
  • veikuri
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    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.
  • jaxn
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    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman
  • jaxn
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    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base
  • veikuri
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    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base

    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Thanos is known more for his durability than his raw strength. Not to say he isn't strong, but you don't see Thanos do things like tow planets on his own strength. His feats are more along the line of taking the best attacks his opponents have and then knocking them the hell out.
  • jaxn
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    Thanos' durability was an upgrade from Death after Warlock originally defeated him. Thanos is also known for his strength.
  • jaxn
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    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base

    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.

    Galactus doesn't have many strength feats either..It's not their thing. Thanos has shown to manhandle Cl 100 characters though.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base

    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.

    Galactus doesn't have many strength feats either..It's not their thing. Thanos has shown to manhandle Cl 100 characters though.

    That's not really a good comparison though. Characters like Galactus are supposed to be seen as beyond simple physical feats. So of course you're not going to see many with him. Thanos is high level, but he's still in the trenches when compared to cosmic level entities.
  • veikuri
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    jaxn wrote: »
    Thanos' durability was an upgrade from Death after Warlock originally defeated him. Thanos is also known for his strength.

    I don't know of anyone who fears his physical strength. That's not something he is known for. He is obviously below Thor w/ Power gem & Champion w/ Power gem, but what does he do? He either out smarts them or uses his technology.
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base

    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.

    Galactus doesn't have many strength feats either..It's not their thing. Thanos has shown to manhandle Cl 100 characters though.

    Not every Class 100 is the same strength. Just like Hercules is physically stronger than Thor & base Hulk, but they're in the same class. I'm not saying that Superman is stronger than Thanos, or Thanos is stronger than Superman(talking purely physical strength). I'm saying that they are fairly equals in the same ball park. You gotta remember Supes is physically a lot stronger than Hulk at his base.
  • Broddie
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    3175703-superman+feat+9.jpg

    present day Superman's peak strength level as stated back in 2012
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Broddie wrote: »
    3175703-superman+feat+9.jpg

    present day Superman's peak strength level as stated back in 2012

    Hasn't that changed though? I don't keep up with DC much, but I thought they went through one of their continuity resets since then.
  • Broddie
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    Broddie wrote: »
    3175703-superman+feat+9.jpg

    present day Superman's peak strength level as stated back in 2012

    Hasn't that changed though? I don't keep up with DC much, but I thought they went through one of their continuity resets since then.

    No.
  • jaxn
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    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base

    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.

    Galactus doesn't have many strength feats either..It's not their thing. Thanos has shown to manhandle Cl 100 characters though.

    That's not really a good comparison though. Characters like Galactus are supposed to be seen as beyond simple physical feats. So of course you're not going to see many with him. Thanos is high level, but he's still in the trenches when compared to cosmic level entities.

    The point is you can't use strength comparisons in the way of towing planets when the character doesn't operate like that. Thanos shows his strength when dealing with other CL 100 characters. Dumb Drax doesn't have as many strength feats as Superman but he's clearly stronger.
  • jaxn
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    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    Thanos' durability was an upgrade from Death after Warlock originally defeated him. Thanos is also known for his strength.
    I don't know of anyone who fears his physical strength. That's not something he is known for. He is obviously below Thor w/ Power gem & Champion w/ Power gem, but what does he do? He either out smarts them or uses his technology.
    Thanos has been shown since the beginning to manhandle elite CL 100 characters including Thor and the Hulk. I'm not sure what else is needed. Most people are below anyone utilizing any of the Infinity Gems, that's why they are so powerful. I'm not sure how that hurts Thanos' standing in strength considering the Power Gem amps strength to unknown levels.
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    jaxn wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Its not so much over rating. Hulk is fairly weak at his base. Thats why he generally gets his ass beat in the beginning and eventually over powers people. Not saying Thanos wouldn't curbstomp Hulk, but hes never fought a ? off Hulk.

    And Thanos is as strong as Superman. Feats support that.

    Hulk isn't weak at his base
    Mostly every heavy hitter is stronger than Hulk at his base.
    I haven't seen a base Hulk (CL 85) that you're talking about in at least 20 years.
    jaxn wrote: »
    Triple B's wrote: »
    ..... thanos isnt as strong as Superman. Im not saying he's not class 100... but he's NOT pound for pound physically stronger then superman. As for Thanos punching Hulk in the infinity series.... Thats not the first time anyone has knocked a Hulk out of mid air. Red Hulk has done it, Skaar has done it, Thor has done it. Yall overrate Thanos in the strength category.

    Thanos is stronger than Superman

    Assumptions. They are fairly equal. Thanos doesn't really have that many strength feats. Anything Thanos could do in terms of strength Supes could do too.

    Galactus doesn't have many strength feats either..It's not their thing. Thanos has shown to manhandle Cl 100 characters though.
    Not every Class 100 is the same strength. Just like Hercules is physically stronger than Thor & base Hulk, but they're in the same class.
    Yeah i get that there are levels to CL 100, but Hercules isn't stronger than Thor and a base Hulk (CL 85) hasn't existed in comics for decades. Thor and Hercules are equals in strength. Marvel even went out of the way to have Thor and Hercules engage in an arm wrestling match that went on until they both just gave up.
    I'm not saying that Superman is stronger than Thanos, or Thanos is stronger than Superman(talking purely physical strength). I'm saying that they are fairly equals in the same ball park. You gotta remember Supes is physically a lot stronger than Hulk at his base.

    I don't think Superman and Thanos are in the same class strengthwise
  • jaxn
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  • BangEm_Bart
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    Bruh, Superman will ? Thanos up. He's not dumb enough to be outsmarted by him either. Kal El is a scientist that creates robots to protect his fortress. He's faster and stronger than Thanos. His speed gives him the edge. Thanos is a slow poke with super strength and durability.