Villians Who You AGREED With...

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focus Members Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 2010 in Lights, Camera, Action!
You ever been watching a movie or TV show, and there's someone who is supposed to be the "bad guy"...yet you find yourself agreeing with them? Like, your trying...but really can't seem to connect the dots as to why this person or what their doing is supposed to "villainous"? I'm not talking about ? like "Oh, *blank* is a bad ass...he ? him up" or no ? like that. I'm not talking about villains you love. We all have our fav villains but that don't mean we would do the ? they do or think the way they think. But is there anyone that you genuinely don't understand why their actions were considered "bad" and feel like you think in a similar way and really saw ? from their perspective?
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  • AlexKKKeller
    AlexKKKeller Members Posts: 7
    edited July 2010
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    Joker.
    Always.
    <3
    As well as Lord Voldemort.
    Death is terrifying.
    Why not go to any length to escape it.
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  • MrJR
    MrJR Members Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    The bad guy on Law Abiding Citizen
    John Travolta on The Taking of Pelham 123
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  • focus
    focus Members Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    AlexKKKeller wrote: »
    Joker.
    Always.
    <3

    I knew somebodies ass was goin come in here talking about the "The Joker".

    I have a hard time believing you agree with or relate too a deranged sociopath dressed as a clown who wants total chaos and anarchy.
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  • freshb651
    freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Batman has had some of the best villians because they're so complex..

    Penguin was abandoned by his parents
    Joker was a crook who got turned into an even more volatile guy
    Poison Ivy was a nerdy chick who after she gets her powers is confident and very sexual,same with Catwoman.

    I always thought Mr.Freeze's story was relatable,he was doing crimes to get money to save his wife.
    Clayface had a relatable story too,he was trying to maintain his acting career by taking that stuff and it morphed him into Clayface.

    Batman has really clever characters and storylines.
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  • allied
    allied Members Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Ozymandias from Watchmen. And I'm talking to book, not the movie. But its still the same idea.
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  • focus
    focus Members Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    freshb651 wrote: »
    Batman has had some of the best villians because they're so complex..

    Penguin was abandoned by his parents
    Joker was a crook who got turned into an even more volatile guy
    Poison Ivy was a nerdy chick who after she gets her powers is confident and very sexual,same with Catwoman.

    I always thought Mr.Freeze's story was relatable,he was doing crimes to get money to save his wife.
    Clayface had a relatable story too,he was trying to maintain his acting career by taking that stuff and it morphed him into Clayface.

    Batman has really clever characters and storylines.

    Ok, yea...but still. I dont think you or most people would agree with their actions or way of thinking AFTER the fact.

    Let me give my example...Jaime Fox's character in Dreamgirls.

    Al he was trying to do was get money and put people on. Dude had a vision and was trying to change the game. Yea, ol' girl could sing better, ok. But that wasn't what he was trying to sell. He was pretty much upfront, everybody got paid, he wasn't cheating nobody or nothing and yea, Jennifer Hudson's ass was trippin and should've got the boot. Eddie Murphy's ass wanted to stay local/R&B and on drugs instead of taking the ? to the next level like Jaime was trying to take it. Its like all them drove him to be evil for being so ungrateful.
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  • Max.
    Max. Members Posts: 33,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    travis bickle
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  • gdatruth2.0
    gdatruth2.0 Members Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    anyone see Unthinkable?
    Effectively everyone was a 'villian' in that flick and I could relate to all of them.
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  • KplusK
    KplusK Members Posts: 2,114 ✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    V from the movie V for Vendetta that was that ?
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  • smokelahoma
    smokelahoma Members Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    focus wrote: »
    I knew somebodies ass was goin come in here talking about the "The Joker".

    I have a hard time believing you agree with or relate too a deranged sociopath dressed as a clown who wants total chaos and anarchy.

    I think he/she is referring to the Dark Knight movie Joker. Sure he wanted chaos and anarchy but he made alot of sense when going into his little speeches. Did you watch the movie?
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  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Not a movie, but Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid
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  • motrilla
    motrilla Members Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    MrJR wrote: »
    The bad guy on Law Abiding Citizen
    John Travolta on The Taking of Pelham 123

    co-sign the bolded i was disappointed that he didn't live
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  • motrilla
    motrilla Members Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    the dude in no country for old men they stole that mans paper can't be mad he tried to get it back
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  • killap
    killap Members Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    not sure if he's a villain but Dexter.
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  • Indy8503 HD
    Indy8503 HD Members Posts: 554
    edited July 2010
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    Humans in Avatar
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  • CMac
    CMac Members Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    The Villain in The Watchmen
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  • Sourpatch Kid
    Sourpatch Kid Members Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Ike Turner, what's wrong with ? and coke and having things your way.









    J/K
    The trix rabbit from the commercials, why can't he just have his ? cereal and why do those kids keep ? with him and saying tricks are for kids. Give him some ? cereal and stop being a glutton because your teaching other kids to be stingy mafuckers too.
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    KplusK wrote: »
    V from the movie V for Vendetta that was that ?

    He wasn't a villian in that movie....
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Indy8503 HD wrote: »
    Humans in Avatar

    haha wtf thats like saying you wanted the colonists to win in pocohontas

    or the soldiers to ? kevin costner in dances with wolves

    or the confederates to win in Glory

    or Bill the Butches to ? Leonardo Di Caprio in gangs of new york.
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  • Tha Killa
    Tha Killa Members Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Will Munny wrote: »
    haha wtf thats like saying you wanted the colonists to win in pocohontas

    or the soldiers to ? kevin costner in dances with wolves

    or the confederates to win in Glory

    or Bill the Butches to ? Leonardo Di Caprio in gangs of new york.

    Bwahaha. This post is surprising coming from you but good ? nonetheless.
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    thanks but uhhhh.... How is it surprising?
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  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Dr. DOOM

    The Punisher
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  • bankrupt baller
    bankrupt baller Members Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    i think some people dont understand this thread lol
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  • Tha Killa
    Tha Killa Members Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Will Munny wrote: »
    thanks but uhhhh.... How is it surprising?

    I can't really say, but it was just funny to see you son dude like that. I think it was a little surprising 'cause you're an outdoorsman and a lil' hickish (no offense, you're good peoples tho). Iono.
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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2010
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    Tha Killer wrote: »
    I can't really say, but it was just funny to see you son dude like that. I think it was a little surprising 'cause you're an outdoorsman and a lil' hickish (no offense, you're good peoples tho). Iono.

    I am indeed an outdoorsman, but I'm probably not as hickish as you think. I enjoy things hicks also enjoy, but that doesn't mean I think like them.
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