Question About J Cole

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S2J
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edited September 2015 in The Reason
*This is not 1 of those childish diss threads, its just opinion that heavily leans toward bein facts*

Name another rapper who was deemed 'top 5 or 10 of the moment' who dropped at least 3 albums and NOT 1 is deemed historically relevant, classic, or atleast borderline classic

Most do:
Jay-RD
NAS-Illmatic
Big-Ready to Die
Kendrick-GKMC
Lupe-F&L
Ghostface-take your pic
Rae-OB4CL
Kanye-Dropout & LR
50-GRODT
The Game even lol-Documentary
D.o.c.-No One Does it Better
Ti-Trap Muzik


I mean ? lol Usually rappers cone out swinging. Before the fame is when you hungriest and drop your rawest, best material. J Cole has three FORGETTABLE albums

He's nice! Cool lil rapper. But im tired of bein humble, ya boy aint it man. Yall forcing it due to a dearth of quality rappers

Please someone tell me where im wrong at ANY level
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  • S2J
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    Drake

    Yep. I didn't lump him in w/ @Cole bc that felt like overkill, like im pickin on the generation lol
  • murdap
    murdap Members Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭
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    top 5 new school rappers

    5. Rich Homie Quan
    4. Young Thug
    3. J Cole
    2. Drake
    1. Future

  • Peezy_Jenkins
    Peezy_Jenkins Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    not that i disagree with your cole sentiment but

    raekwon a top 10 rapper at any time?

    only ? who have been under a rock or are just plain stupid/insanely jaded think there's a lack of nice rappers, and despite the music side of things, cole is one of em.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Grodt is overrated. But the impact was good for rap

    Ob4cl overrated

    documentary trash

    Doc album is meh at best

    Ghost album was solid


    Gkmc is a good album but forest hills drive is much much better. It's far from forgettable. Dude sold mad albums with no push and no features and selling out shows everywhere.

    Blueprint > RD
    You here ppl blasting much more then RD
  • af.r.i.c.a.
    af.r.i.c.a. Members Posts: 9,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    not that i disagree with your cole sentiment but

    raekwon a top 10 rapper at any time?

    only ? who have been under a rock or are just plain stupid/insanely jaded think there's a lack of nice rappers, and despite the music side of things, cole is one of em.

    Around the early to mid 90s you could have made a case for Rae being top 10. I agree with your second comment 100% tho. There's an abundance of up and coming talent.
  • jono
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    FHD is still less than a year old, so time will tell. Question is how many peoplr on a J.Cole run? Who you replace him with? Even the biggest KRIT or Wale fan can't make that argument. Dude producing and writing his own ? without doing a features and carried it to his BEST work of his career. Who else doing this?
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    T/S raises an interesting point.

    I'm not really up on things like I used to be. I've been hearing a lot about J Cole but to be honest, I haven't heard any of his albums in their entirety. What's his best album? I'm willing to order one of his albums from Amazon if ya'll say its any good.
  • af.r.i.c.a.
    af.r.i.c.a. Members Posts: 9,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So Far Gone by Drake and Friday Night Lights by J Cole are classic bodies of work, but I agree they don't have classic albums

    The Warm up is Coles best body of work.
  • MallyG
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    So Far Gone by Drake and Friday Night Lights by J Cole are classic bodies of work, but I agree they don't have classic albums

    The Warm up is Coles best body of work.

    I respectfully disagree and would say Friday Night Lights is, although I still haven't listened to FHD.
  • Peezy_Jenkins
    Peezy_Jenkins Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the no features thing is kinda overrated too, props to him and his fanbase for him being able to drop outta nowhere and go plat tho.
  • Billy_Poncho
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    Food and Liquor is a classic?
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    So Far Gone by Drake and Friday Night Lights by J Cole are classic bodies of work, but I agree they don't have classic albums

    I bought So Far Gone on the strength of some recommendations on the IC. Just as I was starting to get into it and start to nod my head he'd start singing. If that's this generations idea of "classic" then Nas was right, Hip Hop is dead.

    How did I get a flag? I made a thread about a year ago asking what was Drake's best album. People said I should get So Far Gone so I ordered it from Amazon. I was thoroughly disappointed.

    I'll even look for the thread.
  • murdap
    murdap Members Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭
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    Last classic albums i heard were

    5. like father like son,
    4.lil boosie incarcerrated
    3. yo gotti i am
    2. thug motivation 101
    1. g unit beg for mercy

    Other then those aint no classic albums made in the 2000's well maybe Carter 2 can be thrown in there but thats where the buck stops at
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    the no features thing is kinda overrated too, props to him and his fanbase for him being able to drop outta nowhere and go plat tho.

    It's killing you ain't it?

    wat do u mean?
  • 5th Letter
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    the no features thing is kinda overrated too, props to him and his fanbase for him being able to drop outta nowhere and go plat tho.

    It's killing you ain't it?

    wat do u mean?
    He's been going against the grain and constantly proving you wrong.
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    the no features thing is kinda overrated too, props to him and his fanbase for him being able to drop outta nowhere and go plat tho.

    It's killing you ain't it?

    wat do u mean?
    He's been going against the grain and constantly proving you wrong.

    ah, ? wrong every day b. i think his success is great.

    i wanna like his music a lot, i just cant get into it. and i like j. cole's collabs(except planes) so i dont really see the huge deal about no features. maybe cuz it was unexpected?
  • S2J
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    So Far Gone by Drake and Friday Night Lights by J Cole are classic bodies of work, but I agree they don't have classic albums

    Damn. On some real ? scratch Drake off the list, So Far Gone meets the criteria imo. It changed the game , huge impact

    FNL? hell no. Not lookin good for ya boy fellas lls
  • S2J
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    Even Lil Wayne can squeak in w/ Carter 2 and Drought 2 (i get em confused) as his highly regarded, memorable, 'this stopped everything' bodies of work

    J Cole don't got ? but nice, fun, 'personal favorite' at best level bodies of work . Please anyone tell me im lying
  • MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14
    MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 Members Posts: 15,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Even as the Bcotton/supergangster of Cole fans on the IC i will admit FHD is not a classic but its pretty close. However you can't say FHD is forgettable. The songs have plenty of replay value.