Is Treacherous Three A Top 10 Hip Hop Group?
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I know most of the people on this message board are too young to remember the Treacherous Three in their prime. I barely remember them myself, although I do remember seeing Beat Street In the theater. It wasn't really until the internet came out that I had access to a lot of the old school rap that I was too young to appreciate when it was out. Also, through the internet I got access to the live tapes that people in New York used to trade. Quite frankly I was too young to remember the Kool Moe Dee vs Busy B battle.
First Anniversary Live @ The Disco Fever 1981 - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPP18sJNJs
New Rap Language - Spoonie G and The Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2GxCE-qSY
Graffiti Rock Battle - Special K and Kool Moe Dee vs Run DMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBQECLyPXk
Santa's Rap Beat Street - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boHq8RmLGU
Feel The New Heartbeat - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3Yv0Ngex8
Kool Moe Dee's Art Of Rap Freestyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Zw8mUbNxw
First Anniversary Live @ The Disco Fever 1981 - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPP18sJNJsNew Rap Language - Spoonie G and The Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2GxCE-qSYGraffiti Rock Battle - Special K and Kool Moe Dee vs Run DMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBQECLyPXkSanta's Rap Beat Street - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boHq8RmLGUFeel The New Heartbeat - Treacherous Three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3Yv0Ngex8Kool Moe Dee's Art Of Rap Freestyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Zw8mUbNxw Is Treacherous Three A Top 10 Hip Hop Group? 15 votes
Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
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2 votes
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
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13 votes
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupNaw, but they still OG
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupI ? with Moe Dee heavy, but I can't co-sign that movement:
Wu-Tang
NWA
OutKast
PE
Tribe
LOX
Beastie Boys
Eric B. & Rakim
Run-DMC
EPMD
Juice Crew
UGK
All higher up on the pantheon... -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
Eric B. & Rakim & The Juice Crew were not rap groups. One was an MC with A DJ, the other was different artist on the same label"I ? with Moe Dee heavy, but I can't co-sign that movement:
Wu-Tang
NWA
OutKast
PE
Tribe
LOX
Beastie Boys
Eric B. & Rakim
Run-DMC
EPMD
Juice Crew
UGK
All higher up on the pantheon... -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupNot enough material or lasting impact from the group itself
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupThey had a time and place. Definitely not top 10 though.
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupof the 80's yes
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Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupI ? with Moe Dee heavy, but I can't co-sign that movement:
Wu-Tang
NWA
OutKast
PE
Tribe
LOX
Beastie Boys
Eric B. & Rakim
Run-DMC
EPMD
Juice Crew
UGK
All higher up on the pantheon...
Your list is a joke if Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 isn't on it. -
I remember when kool moe dee said in a interview that him and treacherous would crush the furious five ..... Mel never responded
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
grandmaster flash and the furious 5 aren't top 10 either -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupOutkast
UGK
Hot Boys
NWA
Tribe
The Roots
Bone Thugs
Mobb Deep
Goodie Mob
8ball & MJG
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Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
grandmaster flash and the furious 5 aren't top 10 either
Out of curiosity, where would you rank the originators of Hip Hop? -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
grandmaster flash and the furious 5 aren't top 10 either
Out of curiosity, where would you rank the originators of Hip Hop?
I guess I didn't submit my post.....maybe between 20 and 30th best rap groups -
Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop Group
grandmaster flash and the furious 5 aren't top 10 either
Out of curiosity, where would you rank the originators of Hip Hop?
I guess I didn't submit my post.....maybe between 20 and 30th best rap groups
This thread might go off on a tangent, but how can you rank other groups higher than the originators of the art form? The Treacherous 3 aren't the first to do it, but they were doing it before The Sugarhill Gang. They just didn't release a record until 1980. Treacherous Three is amongst the first.
But Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 released two records in 1979. They have tapes from 1978. There's documented evidence and eyewitness accounts that Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 are essentially the first rap group. They made gold and platinum records, classic singles and are recognized by the greater music industry by their induction in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. They have records that have been preserved by the Library of Congress;
Every year, the US Library of Congress selects a batch of 25 audio recordings it deems “culturally, historically and aesthetically significant.” The records are chosen for preservation in the National Recording Registry. Selected recordings span eras and genres. They include civil rights speeches, comedy albums, jazz classics and, yes, a handful of hip-hop records. (Recordings have to be at least 10 years old to be eligible for induction.)
The Six Hip Hop Records Recognized By The Library of Congress
Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - "The Message"
Public Enemy - 'Fear of a Black Planet'
Tupac Shakur - "Dear Mama"
De La Soul - '3 Feet High & Rising'
Sugar Hill Gang - "Rapper's Delight"
Lauryn Hill - 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill'
http://rap.about.com/od/hiphop101/ss/Hip-Hop-Records-Preserved-by-the-Library-of-Congress.htm
Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna let some old white men tell me whats hot, but the fact that The Message was the first rap record to be recognized by the Library of Congress is saying something. -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupJust because you're the originator don't mean you can't get surpassed.
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupwe've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan -
Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupwe've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now? -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupwe've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
the internet -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupwe've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
? . Are you serious?
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Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupShizlansky wrote: »we've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
? . Are you serious?
Yeah I'm serious
How many units do you think these records sold;
The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Superrappin - Grandmaster Flas and the Furious 5
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5
White Lines - Grandmaster and Melle Mel
Spoonin Rap - Spoonie G
Love Rap - Spoonie G
Funk You Up - The Sequence
Rapture - Blondie
Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1
^^^ Look up those sales figures. You probably won't find anything but looking them up is a good exercise...arguably an exercise in futility.
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupShizlansky wrote: »we've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
? . Are you serious?
Yeah I'm serious
How many units do you think these records sold;
The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Superrappin - Grandmaster Flas and the Furious 5
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5
White Lines - Grandmaster and Melle Mel
Spoonin Rap - Spoonie G
Love Rap - Spoonie G
Funk You Up - The Sequence
Rapture - Blondie
Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1
^^^ Look up those sales figures. You probably won't find anything but looking them up is a good exercise...arguably an exercise in futility.
what does that have to do with the original question? -
Yes - The Treacherous Three Is A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupShizlansky wrote: »we've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
? . Are you serious?
Yeah I'm serious
How many units do you think these records sold;
The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Superrappin - Grandmaster Flas and the Furious 5
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5
White Lines - Grandmaster and Melle Mel
Spoonin Rap - Spoonie G
Love Rap - Spoonie G
Funk You Up - The Sequence
Rapture - Blondie
Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1
^^^ Look up those sales figures. You probably won't find anything but looking them up is a good exercise...arguably an exercise in futility.
what does that have to do with the original question?
nothing but somebody asked me if I was serious about record sales.
Look up the Treacherous Three's record sales while your at it. -
No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupShizlansky wrote: »we've gone over this, early hip hop wasn't quality music....it sounded real amateur hour, so if they are the originators or not doesn't mean I have to respect them if I didn't enjoy their music or what they were doing
even as a little kid the people would play this stuff and I wasn't into it, I've said it before if hip hop didn't evolve and iron out it's sound I probably wouldn't have been an overall fan
If early Hip Hop wasn't quality music why did it sell more than the stuff that comes out now?
? . Are you serious?
Yeah I'm serious
How many units do you think these records sold;
The Breaks - Kurtis Blow
Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Superrappin - Grandmaster Flas and the Furious 5
The Message - Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5
White Lines - Grandmaster and Melle Mel
Spoonin Rap - Spoonie G
Love Rap - Spoonie G
Funk You Up - The Sequence
Rapture - Blondie
Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1
^^^ Look up those sales figures. You probably won't find anything but looking them up is a good exercise...arguably an exercise in futility.
what does that have to do with the original question?
nothing but somebody asked me if I was serious about record sales.
Look up the Treacherous Three's record sales while your at it.
you can't compare album sales from the 80's when ppl had to go to the store to buy music as opposed to 2015 when ppl download everything....so I could care less what their album sales were
and as we all know, sales doesn't mean your album is good....if that what the case we should also listen to taylor swift and a bunch of country music -
No but they could rock a party more than most of the groups listed here. It would be interested to see acts that made music just for party venues.
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop Groupthere's a difference between being first, selling the most, being original, and being top ten. deal
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No - The Treacherous Three Is Not A Top 10 Hip Hop GroupI 100% know hip hop is a thousand times more popular then it ever was
It's world wide now.
You have hip hop in every part of the media now
The only reason sales is worst because of ppl downloading free music.
I remember when I was a kid my mom had no burnt CDs
Fast forward 20 years and my mom has a ? ton of burnt music and music in her phone she didn't pay for
You sir are an idiot.
