Russian plane shot down by Turkey! Putin says it was "stab in the back by the terrorists"!

Options
DoUwant2go2Heaven
DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
Russia confirms its jet was shot down near Turkish border

Associated Press By SUZAN FRASER and NATALIYA VASILYEVA
1 hour ago

http://news.yahoo.com/report-turkey-shoots-down-warplane-over-airspace-intrusion-081734904.html

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey shot down a Russian fighter plane Tuesday — a long-feared crisis in Syria's civil war and apparently the first time a NATO member has downed a Russian plane in a half-century. At least one of the pilots was reported killed.

Russian President Vladimir Putin called Turkey's action a "stab in the back by the terrorists' accomplices" and warned of "significant consequences," and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov cancelled a visit to Turkey which had been planned for Wednesday.

At Turkey's request, NATO's governing body called an emergency meeting.

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu insisted his country has the right to take "all kinds of measures" against border violations, and called on the international community to work toward "extinguishing the fire that is burning in Syria."

Turkey said the Su-24 ignored several warnings that it was nearing, then intruding, into Turkish airspace. Russia insisted the plane stayed over Syria, where it was supporting ground action against rebels.

"We will never tolerate such atrocities as happened today and we hope that the international community will find the strength to join forces and fight this evil," Putin said.

Rebels said they fired at the two parachuting pilots as they descended, and that one had died. A rebel spokesman said they would consider releasing the body in exchange for prisoners held by Syria. The fate of the second pilot was not immediately known.

Despite harsh words, some analysts believe that Russia and Turkey have reasons not to let the incident escalate.

"Relations have been very strained between Russia and Turkey of late so Moscow will be trying its utmost to contain the damage this might cause," said Natasha Kuhrt, lecturer in International Peace and Security at King's College London.

"It's a serious incident in anybody's book," added Ian Kearns, director of the European Leadership Network, a London think-tank.

But Kearns said the Russian-Turkish economic relationship, including in the energy field, is important to Moscow. And Russia and the West appeared to be moving toward an understanding of their common strategic interest in eradicating the Islamic State group following the bombing of a Russian airliner over Sinai and the attacks in Paris.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry invited diplomats from the five U.N. Security Council member countries for a meeting to brief them about the incident. Separately, the Russian charge d'affaires was also invited for a meeting during which Turkey "conveyed its sensitivities" over border violations.

Turkey has complained repeatedly that Russian planes supporting Syrian President Basher Assad were straying across the border — a complaint repeated to the Russian ambassador only last Friday.

Turkey and Russia have long been at odds over the crisis in Syria. Turkey has been concerned over Russia's bombing of Turkmen areas and the fact that the Russian operations have complicated the possibility of creating a safe zone in northern Syria to protect civilians as well as moderate rebels fighting Assad. The creation of a safe zone has been a long-term Turkish goal.

Turkey has long been seeking the ouster of Assad — an important Russian ally.

The Russian plane was supporting Syrian troops which have been on the offensive in an area controlled by several insurgent groups including al-Qaida's branch in Syria, the Nusra Front, and the 2nd Coastal Division and the 10th Coast Division that includes local Turkmen fighters.

Jahed Ahmad, a spokesman the 10th Coast Division, said its forces fired at the Russian pilots as they descended. One died, Ahmad told The Associated Press.

A Turkish military statement said the plane entered Turkish airspace over the town of Yayladagi, in Hatay province.

Turkish officials released what they said was the radar image of the path the Russian plane took, showing it flying across a stretch of Turkish territory in Turkey's southern-most tip, in the region of Yayladag, in Hatay province.

Three Russian journalists working in Syria suffered minor injuries when a missile landed near their car on Monday, Russia's Defense Ministry said. They were being treated in a military hospital.

Last month, Turkish jets shot down an unidentified drone that it said had violated Turkey's airspace.

Turkey changed its rules of engagement a few years ago after Syria shot down a Turkish plane. According to the new rules, Turkey said it would consider all "elements" approaching from Syria an enemy threat and would act accordingly.

Following earlier accusations of Russian intrusion into Turkish airspace, the U.S. European Command on Nov. 6 deployed six U.S. Air Force F-15 fighters from their base in Britain to Incirlik Air Base in Turkey to help the NATO-member country secure its skies.

Sarah Lain, an analyst at the Royal United Services Institute, said the last time she could remember a NATO member country —the United States — shooting down a Russian/Soviet plane was the 1950s. "But the Soviets appear to have shot down more U.S. planes amid the Cold War," she added.
«1

Comments

  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.
  • texas409
    texas409 Members Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    There will be whispers of wars.....
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    texas409 wrote: »
    There will be whispers of wars.....

    ? whispers there's been full blown war in ME past 10 years.
  • Ajackson17
    Ajackson17 Members Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Time for us African folk to rebuild. Let the Caucus region/Indo-European war with each other.
  • AZTG
    AZTG Members Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Turkey downed a russian plane? Only one possible conclusion, Jesus is coming back!
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    texas409 wrote: »
    There will be whispers of wars.....

    Wars and whispers of war. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Time for us African folk to rebuild. Let the Caucus region/Indo-European war with each other.


    No time like the present. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    AZTG wrote: »
    Turkey downed a russian plane? Only one possible conclusion, Jesus is coming back!


    Yeshua is coming like a thief in the night. But the tribulation hasn't begun yet, so we are at least 7+ years away from Him standing on the Mount of Olives. Amen.


  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran

    They'll unite when the evil scheme comes to their mind. The evil scheme is to destroy Israel and take away their spoil. Why? Because they all despise Israel. That is why Syria is the staging ground. And once Damascus is nuked the invasion of Israel will soon follow. So look up for our redemption draws nigh. Amen.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran

    They'll unite when the evil scheme comes to their mind. The evil scheme is to destroy Israel and take away their spoil. Why? Because they all despise Israel. That is why Syria is the staging ground. And once Damascus is nuked the invasion of Israel will soon follow. So look up for our redemption draws nigh. Amen.


    LOL is you forreal. Russia has literally no reason to form any formal alliance with any country if they wanted to destroy Isreal. What could they possibly offer Russia?
  • jetlifebih
    jetlifebih Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    So ? is punishing us with oppression? While empowering the oppressors??

    Well got dam....it must be 2 sides
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran

    They'll unite when the evil scheme comes to their mind. The evil scheme is to destroy Israel and take away their spoil. Why? Because they all despise Israel. That is why Syria is the staging ground. And once Damascus is nuked the invasion of Israel will soon follow. So look up for our redemption draws nigh. Amen.


    LOL is you forreal. Russia has literally no reason to form any formal alliance with any country if they wanted to destroy Isreal. What could they possibly offer Russia?

    RESOURCES!!!!


    1. Leviathan gas field. It is the world's largest offshore gas find in the past decade! Could supply Israel for over 100 years and also export to the whole world!!!!

    Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/13/israel-natgas-leviathan-idUSL6N0PO08Q20140713#OTcriyPEu1j3UXtp.99

    leviathan-gas-field.png

    https://youtu.be/ZvzFFG2BNKc



    2. But that's not all. Israel also has the Golan Heights Oil well that was discovered jus this year!


    http://www.oilinisrael.net/top-stories/golan-heights-oil-discovery

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/huge-oil-discovery-on-the-golan-heights/2015/10/07/

    golan-map.jpg

    The black is the oil and the red is the border.



    That is why they will invade my friend. But they will be utterly destroyed by ? on that day. The whole world will shake on that day. The cloudy day will be upon all the inhabitants of the earth. 1/4 of the worlds population will be dead when the 7 year tribulation begins. It is the day of sudden destruction! The day when ? will bow down the heavens on a cloud and take vengeance upon the invaders of Israel. Oh yeah and the west will be destroyed as well. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Read Ezekiel 38 and 39 for the invasion and the results of it. Amen
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Wuwop wrote: »
    So ? is punishing us with oppression? While empowering the oppressors??

    Well got dam....it must be 2 sides

    Explain what you mean my friend?
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2015
    Options
    A few months ago this guy said Russia would team up with Turkey to destroy America

    What's more likely is that America and Russia team up to clear the middle east of terrorist threats.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran

    They'll unite when the evil scheme comes to their mind. The evil scheme is to destroy Israel and take away their spoil. Why? Because they all despise Israel. That is why Syria is the staging ground. And once Damascus is nuked the invasion of Israel will soon follow. So look up for our redemption draws nigh. Amen.


    LOL is you forreal. Russia has literally no reason to form any formal alliance with any country if they wanted to destroy Isreal. What could they possibly offer Russia?

    RESOURCES!!!!


    1. Leviathan gas field. It is the world's largest offshore gas find in the past decade! Could supply Israel for over 100 years and also export to the whole world!!!!

    Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/13/israel-natgas-leviathan-idUSL6N0PO08Q20140713#OTcriyPEu1j3UXtp.99

    leviathan-gas-field.png

    https://youtu.be/ZvzFFG2BNKc



    2. But that's not all. Israel also has the Golan Heights Oil well that was discovered jus this year!


    http://www.oilinisrael.net/top-stories/golan-heights-oil-discovery

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/huge-oil-discovery-on-the-golan-heights/2015/10/07/

    golan-map.jpg

    The black is the oil and the red is the border.



    That is why they will invade my friend. But they will be utterly destroyed by ? on that day. The whole world will shake on that day. The cloudy day will be upon all the inhabitants of the earth. 1/4 of the worlds population will be dead when the 7 year tribulation begins. It is the day of sudden destruction! The day when ? will bow down the heavens on a cloud and take vengeance upon the invaders of Israel. Oh yeah and the west will be destroyed as well. Amen.

    Russia has its own pipelines running through Siberia amd an infinite amount of prison labor working on them. Combined with them being friendly with various middle eastern countries I strongly doubt they would attack for resources
  • Black Boy King
    Black Boy King Members Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    timeline review and some updates (didn't read the thread)


    Russian jet allegedly approached the border and was warned 10 times when they were 2 miles out

    Turkish forces shot down Russian jet after it allegedly violating airspace (they say it was a few seconds)

    Russian rescue copters attempt to save pilots but were shot down

    Russian rescue pilots ejected and were killed while parachuting down by Free Syrian Army rebels

    Emergency meeting held by NATO around noon, conclude that Russia is at fault

    Pentagon has sided with Turkey's story

    Putin rushed back to Moscow to weigh military response



    ........Yeah Putin either folds and looks like a hoe or he retaliates and sets off some major ? .

    I doubt he retaliates as that would mean lshsgpda.giflshsgpda.giflshsgpda.giflshsgpda.gif



    srjceahd.gif
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Already talking about it in isis thread in SL. Russia and Turkey are major trading partners along with turkey bein a NATO country. If you think there is gonna be a major ground operation in Turkey on Russia part your deluded.

    Turkey is one of the allies with Russia, Iran, and the North African nations during the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel. Which is the war that causes sudden destruction and the beginning of the 7 year tribulation.

    The results of that war will ? 1/4 of the human population.


    And it's soon to come. Amen.



    But as for what happened with this plane being shot down, i'm not sure what the effects will be. Russia plays chess so it's response will be very calculated.

    Turkey are trading partners with Russia not allies amd they sure as ? ain't allies with Iran

    They'll unite when the evil scheme comes to their mind. The evil scheme is to destroy Israel and take away their spoil. Why? Because they all despise Israel. That is why Syria is the staging ground. And once Damascus is nuked the invasion of Israel will soon follow. So look up for our redemption draws nigh. Amen.


    LOL is you forreal. Russia has literally no reason to form any formal alliance with any country if they wanted to destroy Isreal. What could they possibly offer Russia?

    RESOURCES!!!!


    1. Leviathan gas field. It is the world's largest offshore gas find in the past decade! Could supply Israel for over 100 years and also export to the whole world!!!!

    Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/13/israel-natgas-leviathan-idUSL6N0PO08Q20140713#OTcriyPEu1j3UXtp.99

    leviathan-gas-field.png

    https://youtu.be/ZvzFFG2BNKc



    2. But that's not all. Israel also has the Golan Heights Oil well that was discovered jus this year!


    http://www.oilinisrael.net/top-stories/golan-heights-oil-discovery

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/huge-oil-discovery-on-the-golan-heights/2015/10/07/

    golan-map.jpg

    The black is the oil and the red is the border.



    That is why they will invade my friend. But they will be utterly destroyed by ? on that day. The whole world will shake on that day. The cloudy day will be upon all the inhabitants of the earth. 1/4 of the worlds population will be dead when the 7 year tribulation begins. It is the day of sudden destruction! The day when ? will bow down the heavens on a cloud and take vengeance upon the invaders of Israel. Oh yeah and the west will be destroyed as well. Amen.

    Russia has its own pipelines running through Siberia amd an infinite amount of prison labor working on them. Combined with them being friendly with various middle eastern countries I strongly doubt they would attack for resources

    The eyes of man are never satisfied my friend. It's never enough. Mankind always wants more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

    And they will come all for spoil. Look at what the gulf states and her merchants (the WEST) say when the invaders of Israel come

    "Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?" Ezekiel 38:13


    Even now the gulf states and her merchants have been questioning Russia and Irans intentions in Syria!!!!


    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/29/on-eve-of-syria-peace-talks-saudi-arabia-questions-russian-iranian-intentions


    It's building up to what is coming.


    https://youtu.be/8cnEcO4TOCQ


    They are gearing up to invade Israel! This is Gog and Magog my friend! All you have to do it study the word of ? . It's all there. And we are witnessing the stage being set. Amen.
  • ThaNubianGod
    ThaNubianGod Members Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Time for us African folk to rebuild. Let the Caucus region/Indo-European war with each other.

    Rebuild where? Black america has the GDP of a Top 10 World country. All we have to do is focus the money we already have.