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Ajackson17
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Let's talk about some information and the conscious community. I don't really want anything negative so if you have positive stuff to talk about then post them in here.

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  • The_Jackal
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    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things
  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.
  • The_Jackal
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia
  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia

    No, the proper word they used in the bible was EL, Eloyihim which has no connection to the word ? /Gheut which has it's origins in indo-european language which comes from Hetu which refers to Indra.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=? &allowed_in_frame=0

  • The_Jackal
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia

    No, the proper word they used in the bible was EL, Eloyihim
    which has no connection to the word ? /Gheut which has it's origins in indo-european language which comes from Hetu which refers to Indra.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=? &allowed_in_frame=0

    1st part is almost a halftruth. El could be used to refer to moloch. ? specifically mentions that he revealed himself as El (? ) but did not let them know his name as Yahwah.

    2nd what does ghuet have to do with any of this

  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia

    No, the proper word they used in the bible was EL, Eloyihim
    which has no connection to the word ? /Gheut which has it's origins in indo-european language which comes from Hetu which refers to Indra.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=? &allowed_in_frame=0

    1st part is almost a halftruth. El could be used to refer to moloch. ? specifically mentions that he revealed himself as El (? ) but did not let them know his name as Yahwah.

    2nd what does ghuet have to do with any of this

    ? descends from it, the point of Etymology is to understand the language and true meanings behind words as years pass on it from the original meaning. Using ? as a word to denote to a creator when it's original meaning doesn't even transcribe into "He is" "He exists" "He is self-existing". We literally have no word for Yahweh nor El or Eloyihim.

    They literally should be teaching you this in the church.


    El is in reference to any deity, but the Hebrews point out to Yahweh and they barely ever use it. It's either EL, Adonai, Eloyihim. It depends on the writer and what tribe or they are from the northern Israel or Southern Judah as well.
  • SELASI_i
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4hpJyAwCUQU[/url]

    Origin of the name Indian for Native Americans - Clyde Winters provides a great deal of source material on pre-american and pre african colonial history. The brotha isn't egotistical or disrespectful I really like to follow up on some of the information he provides.
  • SELASI_i
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydnWtoRW3KA[/url]

    explaining how the ancient greeks knowledge base was rooted in africa
  • Ajackson17
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    SELASI_i wrote: »
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydnWtoRW3KA[/url]

    explaining how the ancient greeks knowledge base was rooted in africa

    Saw this a while ago. Dope video.
  • Ajackson17
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    SELASI_i wrote: »
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4hpJyAwCUQU[/url]

    Origin of the name Indian for Native Americans - Clyde Winters provides a great deal of source material on pre-american and pre african colonial history. The brotha isn't egotistical or disrespectful I really like to follow up on some of the information he provides.

    I seen this, like in the thread with the Jarwa tribe it's important to see the haplogroup and autosomal dna. But they were people who possessed a lot of melanin and very peaceful people.
  • SELASI_i
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    I made this one bout 3 yrs ago. I think you might have seen it @Ajackson17 tho

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=0i5YGlf3T8E[/url]
  • The_Jackal
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia

    No, the proper word they used in the bible was EL, Eloyihim
    which has no connection to the word ? /Gheut which has it's origins in indo-european language which comes from Hetu which refers to Indra.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=? &allowed_in_frame=0

    1st part is almost a halftruth. El could be used to refer to moloch. ? specifically mentions that he revealed himself as El (? ) but did not let them know his name as Yahwah.

    2nd what does ghuet have to do with any of this

    ? descends from it, the point of Etymology is to understand the language and true meanings behind words as years pass on it from the original meaning. Using ? as a word to denote to a creator when it's original meaning doesn't even transcribe into "He is" "He exists" "He is self-existing". We literally have no word for Yahweh nor El or Eloyihim.

    They literally should be teaching you this in the church.


    El is in reference to any deity, but the Hebrews point out to Yahweh and they barely ever use it. It's either EL, Adonai, Eloyihim. It depends on the writer and what tribe or they are from the northern Israel or Southern Judah as well.

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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Eh watched some of it. Disagree that you need history to have spirtuality do agree spirtuality and religion are to different things

    In African thought spirituality is knowing your ancestors and knowing what transpired as a Christian and according to the bible Yahweh made it utmost importance for them to know their heritage and where they came from and their ancestors. The word ? which comes from the germanic word Gheut to honor the ancestors.

    That's cool that they believe that doesn't mean they are right or that I'm right. Just what they believe.

    To the second bolded huh? People been using the word ? since pre mesopotamia

    No, the proper word they used in the bible was EL, Eloyihim
    which has no connection to the word ? /Gheut which has it's origins in indo-european language which comes from Hetu which refers to Indra.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=? &allowed_in_frame=0

    1st part is almost a halftruth. El could be used to refer to moloch. ? specifically mentions that he revealed himself as El (? ) but did not let them know his name as Yahwah.

    2nd what does ghuet have to do with any of this

    ? descends from it, the point of Etymology is to understand the language and true meanings behind words as years pass on it from the original meaning. Using ? as a word to denote to a creator when it's original meaning doesn't even transcribe into "He is" "He exists" "He is self-existing". We literally have no word for Yahweh nor El or Eloyihim.

    They literally should be teaching you this in the church.


    El is in reference to any deity, but the Hebrews point out to Yahweh and they barely ever use it. It's either EL, Adonai, Eloyihim. It depends on the writer and what tribe or they are from the northern Israel or Southern Judah as well.

    Show any source that beside yours that doesn't even link to anything and reference itself that this ghuet originally meant ? cause I can't find any credible source online or in my student database that it has. And Hebrews used El to refer to nearly every diety including Yahweh which is where the verse I posted came from.
  • Ajackson17
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    SELASI_i wrote: »
    I made this one bout 3 yrs ago. I think you might have seen it @Ajackson17 tho

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=0i5YGlf3T8E[/url]

    No, I haven't this is about to get a spin real quick.
  • SELASI_i
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    I know this is a conscious thread and I also know that some people dont look at biblical scholarship and consciousness in the same light, but can one of you hebrews or bible thumpers explain this verse to me?


    Jeremiah 7:18: The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven.


    from my understanding the Queen of Heaven was depicted as Ashtoreth, although It is unclear where the idea that Ashtoreth was a “consort” of Yahweh originated, initially she was thought of as the wife of baal. I saw an older video with a brotha breaking it down etymologically and he was explaining how some of those early bible stories were astrological and allegorical, he was saying how baal represented the bull or the calf hence why in the exodus story the israelites made a golden calf to worship after moses had been gone, the story was foreshadowed in the cain and abel story meaning cain killed a-bel, a-baal, a bull, signifying the isralites victory over false gods.


  • The_Jackal
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    SELASI_i wrote: »
    I know this is a conscious thread and I also know that some people dont look at biblical scholarship and consciousness in the same light, but can one of you hebrews or bible thumpers explain this verse to me?


    Jeremiah 7:18: The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven.


    from my understanding the Queen of Heaven was depicted as Ashtoreth, although It is unclear where the idea that Ashtoreth was a “consort” of Yahweh originated, initially she was thought of as the wife of baal. I saw an older video with a brotha breaking it down etymologically and he was explaining how some of those early bible stories were astrological and allegorical, he was saying how baal represented the bull or the calf hence why in the exodus story the israelites made a golden calf to worship after moses had been gone, the story was foreshadowed in the cain and abel story meaning cain killed a-bel, a-baal, a bull, signifying the isralites victory over false gods.

    Ashtoreth being the queen of heaven in a way makes sense since she was attributed to the planet Venus. As far as her being a wife of baal I don't think that is correct.
  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    I know this is a conscious thread and I also know that some people dont look at biblical scholarship and consciousness in the same light, but can one of you hebrews or bible thumpers explain this verse to me?


    Jeremiah 7:18: The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven.


    from my understanding the Queen of Heaven was depicted as Ashtoreth, although It is unclear where the idea that Ashtoreth was a “consort” of Yahweh originated, initially she was thought of as the wife of baal. I saw an older video with a brotha breaking it down etymologically and he was explaining how some of those early bible stories were astrological and allegorical, he was saying how baal represented the bull or the calf hence why in the exodus story the israelites made a golden calf to worship after moses had been gone, the story was foreshadowed in the cain and abel story meaning cain killed a-bel, a-baal, a bull, signifying the isralites victory over false gods.

    Ashtoreth being the queen of heaven in a way makes sense since she was attributed to the planet Venus. As far as her being a wife of baal I don't think that is correct.

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  • The_Jackal
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »

    I mean an exact quote from it stating that
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    I know this is a conscious thread and I also know that some people dont look at biblical scholarship and consciousness in the same light, but can one of you hebrews or bible thumpers explain this verse to me?


    Jeremiah 7:18: The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven.


    from my understanding the Queen of Heaven was depicted as Ashtoreth, although It is unclear where the idea that Ashtoreth was a “consort” of Yahweh originated, initially she was thought of as the wife of baal. I saw an older video with a brotha breaking it down etymologically and he was explaining how some of those early bible stories were astrological and allegorical, he was saying how baal represented the bull or the calf hence why in the exodus story the israelites made a golden calf to worship after moses had been gone, the story was foreshadowed in the cain and abel story meaning cain killed a-bel, a-baal, a bull, signifying the isralites victory over false gods.

    Ashtoreth being the queen of heaven in a way makes sense since she was attributed to the planet Venus. As far as her being a wife of baal I don't think that is correct.

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    Different myths surround her. One that I heard was not that she was his wife but in fact his mother. Who's to say
  • Ajackson17
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    Just buy the book man
  • The_Jackal
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Just buy the book man

    Lol linguistic just doesn't interest me if it was philosophy then yeah perhaps but I would never read it
  • Ajackson17
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Just buy the book man

    Lol linguistic just doesn't interest me if it was philosophy then yeah perhaps but I would never read it

    It's a good reference. But that is the reference brotha.
  • Dave2one6
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    My conscious journey is now taking me right back here. I am learning the difference between native americans and indigeneous americans. goodbye africa. im gonna miss ya.
  • SELASI_i
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=-h12shd0Is8[/url]
    showing how the rig veda detailed the ? invasion.
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    Dave2one6 wrote: »
    My conscious journey is now taking me right back here. I am learning the difference between native americans and indigeneous americans. goodbye africa. im gonna miss ya.

    African Americans are not indigenous to the americas.
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Dave2one6 wrote: »
    My conscious journey is now taking me right back here. I am learning the difference between native americans and indigeneous americans. goodbye africa. im gonna miss ya.

    African Americans are not indigenous to the americas.

    true, and really nobody is indigenous to the americas, but africans were the first in the americas.