Your NBA Top 5 All time by position
PanchoYoSancho
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My list...
Point Guard
1. Magic
2. Oscar Robertson - Even tho it was a was in a watered down league, the man average a 30 point triple double in his first 5 season
3. John Stockton
4. Isiah Thomas
5. Jason Kidd - Could go either way with him/CP3/Glove
Curry's barely entering his prime, so I'm leaving him off this list for now.
Shooting Guard
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Jerry West
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Ice Man George Gervin
Small Forward
1. Larry Bird - You could argue LeBron's already passed him, but I still give it Bird. 3 consecutive MVPs and the East was a Beast in the 80's.
2. Lebron James - If he isn't already, he'll be the greatest SF ever and top 5 period. But Bird never disappeared in Finals like Lebron did against the Mavs, so I give the fraction of an edge to Bird.
3. Julius Irving
4. Elgin Baylor - Like The Big O, his numbers were inflated by the era he played in, but he was still dominant for his time. Over 27/13 for his career. Helped the Lakers get to 8 Finals. He retired 9 games into a season the Lakers finally got over the ? and won their ring. Ultimate ether.
5. Scottie Pippen - One of the greatest two-way players ever. In the 90s, he was averaging better than 19/6/7/2.5/1 as the 2nd option on a dynasty. Jordan didn't do it by himself.
Power Forward
1. Tim Duncan - One of the most skilled big men ever. Best player in the post MJ era IMO.
2. Karl Malone
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Charles Barkley
5. Kevin Garnett/Kevin McHale
Center
1. Hakeem - Kareem had the better career, but in his prime there was no one better IMO. His skill set and defense was second to no Center ever. He played in the greatest Center era ever and out played all of em, including embarassing MVP David Robinson, en route to back to back titles. The 1st one being with nothing but role players. Him and Shaw are the only ones on this list I saw play, so my opinion's a little one sided
2. Kareem - 6 MVPs, 6 rings, 2 Finals MVP, all time leading scorer, skyhook. Probably should be #1, but I couldn't do it
3. Wilt Chamberlain - I don't believe he would've been able to average 50 a game in the modern era, but was legendary regardless. He was 11 ppg ahead of the 2nd leading scorer and 19 ppg ahead of the 3rd leading scorer that season. 4 MVPs, 2 rings/Finals MVPs
4. Shaq - In his prime, unguardable. All you could do was foul him and hope he'd miss his FTs. 4 rings, 3 of those with Lakers where he destroyed his competition in the Finals. He's probably was an underachiever always coming to training camp out of shape, but he was still a monster averaging 27/12 his first 12 seasons in the league. The most dominant force in the paint since Wilt.
5. Bill Russell - The best player on the best team. He wasn't a huge scorer in an era where countless others were averaging 30 a game. He averaged half as many points as Wilt did, but only 6 fewer ppg in the playoffs. A 5 time league MVP, the man only played 13 seasons and won 11 rings. He also won 2 rings in college too. All he did was win
Point Guard
1. Magic
2. Oscar Robertson - Even tho it was a was in a watered down league, the man average a 30 point triple double in his first 5 season
3. John Stockton
4. Isiah Thomas
5. Jason Kidd - Could go either way with him/CP3/Glove
Curry's barely entering his prime, so I'm leaving him off this list for now.
Shooting Guard
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Jerry West
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Ice Man George Gervin
Small Forward
1. Larry Bird - You could argue LeBron's already passed him, but I still give it Bird. 3 consecutive MVPs and the East was a Beast in the 80's.
2. Lebron James - If he isn't already, he'll be the greatest SF ever and top 5 period. But Bird never disappeared in Finals like Lebron did against the Mavs, so I give the fraction of an edge to Bird.
3. Julius Irving
4. Elgin Baylor - Like The Big O, his numbers were inflated by the era he played in, but he was still dominant for his time. Over 27/13 for his career. Helped the Lakers get to 8 Finals. He retired 9 games into a season the Lakers finally got over the ? and won their ring. Ultimate ether.
5. Scottie Pippen - One of the greatest two-way players ever. In the 90s, he was averaging better than 19/6/7/2.5/1 as the 2nd option on a dynasty. Jordan didn't do it by himself.
Power Forward
1. Tim Duncan - One of the most skilled big men ever. Best player in the post MJ era IMO.
2. Karl Malone
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Charles Barkley
5. Kevin Garnett/Kevin McHale
Center
1. Hakeem - Kareem had the better career, but in his prime there was no one better IMO. His skill set and defense was second to no Center ever. He played in the greatest Center era ever and out played all of em, including embarassing MVP David Robinson, en route to back to back titles. The 1st one being with nothing but role players. Him and Shaw are the only ones on this list I saw play, so my opinion's a little one sided
2. Kareem - 6 MVPs, 6 rings, 2 Finals MVP, all time leading scorer, skyhook. Probably should be #1, but I couldn't do it
3. Wilt Chamberlain - I don't believe he would've been able to average 50 a game in the modern era, but was legendary regardless. He was 11 ppg ahead of the 2nd leading scorer and 19 ppg ahead of the 3rd leading scorer that season. 4 MVPs, 2 rings/Finals MVPs
4. Shaq - In his prime, unguardable. All you could do was foul him and hope he'd miss his FTs. 4 rings, 3 of those with Lakers where he destroyed his competition in the Finals. He's probably was an underachiever always coming to training camp out of shape, but he was still a monster averaging 27/12 his first 12 seasons in the league. The most dominant force in the paint since Wilt.
5. Bill Russell - The best player on the best team. He wasn't a huge scorer in an era where countless others were averaging 30 a game. He averaged half as many points as Wilt did, but only 6 fewer ppg in the playoffs. A 5 time league MVP, the man only played 13 seasons and won 11 rings. He also won 2 rings in college too. All he did was win
Comments
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Magic
Thomas
Stockton
Kidd
CP3
Jordan
Kobe
Wade
AI
Clyde
LBJ
Bird
Dr. J
KD
Nique
Duncan
Dirk
Malone
McHale
Barkley
Shaq
KAJ
Hakeem
Wilt
Russell
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Magic
Stockton
Big O
Zeke
Nash/Curry
MJ
Kobe
West
Iverson
Wade
Lebron
Bird
Doctor J
KD
Pippen
Duncan
Barkley
Malone
KG
Dirk
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Shaq
Hakeem
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Watch the Dirk disrespect in here. If he ain't in everybody top 3 I think it's crazy.
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Point Guard
1 Magic Johnson
2 Oscar Robertson
3 John Stockton
4 Isiah Thomas
5 Chris Paul
Shooting Guard
1 Michael Jordan
2 Kobe Bryant
3 D Wade
4 Clyde Drexler
5 Jerry West
Power Forwards
1 Tim Duncan
2 Charles Barkley
3 Karl Malone
4 Kevin Garnett
5 Dirk Nowitzki
Small Forward
1 Lebron James
2 Larry Bird
3 Scottie Pippen
4 Julius Earving
5 Elgin Baylor
Center
1Kareem Abdul Jabaar
2 Hakeem Olajuwon
3 Shaq
4 Bill Russell
5 Wilt -
Dennis Johnson
Bob Cousy
Tiny Archibald
Jojo White
KC Jones
Sam Jones
Bill Sharman
Reggie Lewis
Frank Ramsey
Danny Ainge
Larry Bird
John Havlicek
Paul Pierce
Satch Sanders
Cedric Maxwell
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Mchale
Antoine Walker
Tom Heinsohn
Bill Russell
Robert Parrish
Dave Cowens
Ed Mccauley
Kendrick Perkins -
Shizlansky wrote: »Watch the Dirk disrespect in here. If he ain't in everybody top 3 I think it's crazy.
I went back n forth with him and Charles, but Chuck was killing the boards in his prime so I have him the edge. Even tho Dirk had a helluva championship run. Same thing with KG and McHale. McHale was the better scorer, but KG had a better all around game. Both are toss ups IMO. -
I agree with most of you guys but so far nobody has mentioned David Thompson
According to Wikipedia,- Thompson is one of the five players to score 70 or more points in an NBA game.
- ....lead North Carolina State University to an undefeated season (27-0) in 1973, he then led the Wolfpack to a 30-1 season and the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship in 1974, defeating the reigning national champions, the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Bruins. His nickname was "Skywalker" because of his incredible vertical leap. The alley-oop pass, now a staple of today's high-flying, above-the-rim game, was "invented" by Thompson and his NC State teammate Monte Towe, and first used as an integral part of the offense by NC State coach Norm Sloan to take advantage of Thompson's leaping ability.
- Thompson was the No. 1 draft pick of both the American Basketball Association (Virginia Squires) and the National Basketball Association (Atlanta Hawks) in the 1975 drafts of both leagues.
- Thompson and Julius Erving were the finalists in the first ever Slam-Dunk Competition, held at the 1976 ABA All-Star Game at McNichols Sports Arena in Denver.
- On April 9, 1978, the last day of the regular NBA season, Thompson scored 73 points against the Detroit Pistons in an effort to win the NBA scoring title (he barely lost the scoring title to San Antonio's George Gervin, who scored 63 points in a game played later that same day).
Unfortunately David Thompson got involved with drugs (? ) and his career was cut short. He put in most of his work in the ABA and by the time the ABA merged with the NBA his career was already in a downward spiral. But He was a GOAT player in the mid 70s when he played for the ABA. - Thompson is one of the five players to score 70 or more points in an NBA game.
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PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Watch the Dirk disrespect in here. If he ain't in everybody top 3 I think it's crazy.
I went back n forth with him and Charles, but Chuck was killing the boards in his prime so I have him the edge. Even tho Dirk had a helluva championship run. Same thing with KG and McHale. McHale was the better scorer, but KG had a better all around game. Both are toss ups IMO.
Dirk carried two totally different squads to the championship.
MVP
Champion
One of the All time great Scorers
His high post game was unstoppable. Turn around shot was only second to the sky hook
Double double machine when the lights get bright.
And some of y'all fav thing in the world. Clutch. -
its....JOHN B wrote: »Dennis Johnson
Bob Cousy
Tiny Archibald
Jojo White
KC Jones
Sam Jones
Bill Sharman
Reggie Lewis
Frank Ramsey
Danny Ainge
Larry Bird
John Havlicek
Paul Pierce
Satch Sanders
Cedric Maxwell
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Mchale
Antoine Walker
Tom Heinsohn
Bill Russell
Robert Parrish
Dave Cowens
Ed Mccauley
Kendrick Perkins
Shizlansky wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Watch the Dirk disrespect in here. If he ain't in everybody top 3 I think it's crazy.
I went back n forth with him and Charles, but Chuck was killing the boards in his prime so I have him the edge. Even tho Dirk had a helluva championship run. Same thing with KG and McHale. McHale was the better scorer, but KG had a better all around game. Both are toss ups IMO.
Dirk carried two totally different squads to the championship.
MVP
Champion
One of the All time great Scorers
His high post game was unstoppable. Turn around shot was only second to the sky hook
Double double machine when the lights get bright.
And some of y'all fav thing in the world. Clutch.
Yeah you right. And me never had the talent around him that Kobe, Shaq or Timmy had either. The closest thing was Nash and Cuban ain't believe in him and we saw how that worked out. -
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oh ? , just read the op. let me revise my list
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Magic
Curry
Kidd
Zeke
Cousy
MJ
Kobe
Jerry West
Wade
Reggie Miller
Bird
Lebron
Pippen
Hondo
Dr.J
Duncan
Dirk
Barkley
McHale
Malone
Wilt
Shaq
Dream
Kareem
Ewing -
Annual thread.
Magic
Stockton
Zeke
Oscar
Kidd
Jordan
Kobe
Wade
Drexler
Iverson
LeBron
Bird
Erving
Dominique
Pippen
Duncan
Malone
Dirk
Barkley
KG
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Shaq
Moses
Just realized I don't have hakeem....ah well -
Annual thread.
Magic
Stockton
Zeke
Oscar
Kidd
Jordan
Kobe
Wade
Drexler
Iverson
LeBron
Bird
Erving
Dominique
Pippen
Duncan
Malone
Dirk
Barkley
KG
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Shaq
Moses
Just realized I don't have hakeem....ah well
What makes Russell and Wilt better than Shaq?
@Beta -
if you put a hunkey on your list youre already discredited.
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PG
1. Magic Johnson
2. Anfernee Hardaway
3. Isiah Thomas
4. Chris Paul
5. John Wall
SG
1. Michael Jordan
2. Allen Iverson
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwayne Wade
5. Jerry West
SF
1. LeBron James
2. Scottie Pippen
3. Larry Bird
4. Kevin Durant
5. Julius Erving
PF
1. Charles Barkley
2. Anthony Davis
3. Karl Malone
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kevin Garnett
C
1. Hakeem Olajuwon
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Shaquille O'neal
4. Kareem Abudul-Jabbar
5. Bill Russell -
Shizlansky wrote: »
Idk I put 25% thought into that list
With all these players its hard to seperate one from the other and make a case for one over the other. Especially at the C spot -
PG
1. Magic Johnson
2. Anfernee Hardaway
3. Isiah Thomas
4. Chris Paul
5. John Wall
SG
1. Michael Jordan
2. Allen Iverson
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwayne Wade
5. Jerry West
SF
1. LeBron James
2. Scottie Pippen
3. Larry Bird
4. Kevin Durant
5. Julius Erving
PF
1. Charles Barkley
2. Anthony Davis
3. Karl Malone
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kevin Garnett
C
1. Hakeem Olajuwon
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Shaquille O'neal
4. Kareem Abudul-Jabbar
5. Bill Russell
? made a personal favorite list -
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Well mister 1 hand dribbling and terrible shooting Havlicek is the greatest Guard of all time
And that cigar smoking coach is the greatest coach of all time. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Well mister 1 hand dribbling and terrible shooting Havlicek is the greatest Guard of all time
And that cigar smoking coach is the greatest coach of all time.
Stop using the Robert Horry defense -
You meant Cousy the goat not Havlicek -
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Skill: Kobe Bryant / Greatness: Michael Jordan... toss up.
SF - Lebron James
PF - Tim Duncan - by default, if we move him to Center, which is his position now, he would struggle to make top 5
C - Kareem
And these ? are head and shoulders above the competition for their position, so I don't see a need to name anyone else. -
To many trash white boys on the court to take them serious.
Crackers was so trash that 2 players could pull down
30 rebounds by them self regularly. So many missed shots and so many attempts. No skills. -
Shizlansky wrote: »To many trash white boys on the court to take them serious.
Crackers was so trash that 2 players could pull down
30 rebounds by them self regularly. So many missed shots and so many attempts. No skills.
Kys for disrespecting the pioneers
