why eminem is the greatest lyricist ever

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juelz21
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while most dudes rhyme words like cat hat rat san fan can

eminem rhymes syllables like can hat tool doom

perfect rhyme involves rhyming words and not just the syllable like imperfect rhyme

this is why eminem is the king of rhyming imo
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  • BackInWhite
    BackInWhite Members Posts: 23,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Do you know what the ? a syllable is, ? ?
    Plus can hat tool and doom don't rhyme
  • L3NU
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    @5th Letter still waiting on that interview with this dude
  • Nah Son
    Nah Son Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
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    yeah "can hat tool doom" sounds like a really dope rhyme. foh
  • Stew
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    One of them for sure. Wouldn't say "the" greatest, way too much stuff goes into figuring this ? out also, ain't got the time.
  • sapp08_2001
    sapp08_2001 Members Posts: 7,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A great yes. Greatest hell naw
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lyrically Em been wack for a while but his fans can't hear past the flow and yellin'
  • Stew
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    Lyrically Em been wack for a while but his fans can't hear past the flow and yellin'

    Explain to me how this is wack. Ill wait....

    https://youtu.be/LSxtNd_ja6I
  • KneeGro_DuperMan
    KneeGro_DuperMan Members Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Em is one of the wordplay GOATS
  • BackInWhite
    BackInWhite Members Posts: 23,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Stew wrote: »
    Lyrically Em been wack for a while but his fans can't hear past the flow and yellin'

    Explain to me how this is wack. Ill wait....

    https://youtu.be/LSxtNd_ja6I

    Just stop
  • Stew
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    Thats a great explanation.
  • Go figure
    Go figure Guests, Members, Confirm Email, Writer Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I feel like Em really fell off after Eminem Show tho he had some good songs/features every now and then after that album.

    But back in his prime he was one of the goats. Inspired Budden whos a great lyricist, killed on Renegades with Jay, No Love with Wayne, etc.

    And those underground freestyles where the dj would say a random word n he would rap about it.

    Was young then so its easy to forget but gotta give Em his respect
  • Go figure
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    N lets not forget how bad he would rip rappers apart on disses

    Nail in the Coffin makes my personal top 5 disses all time
  • qawshun
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    Like Jay didn't get busy on Renegade, but EM still the 2nd best mc in state. Royce the fifty-nineth>>>>>> emgermin.
  • Go figure
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    qawshun wrote: »
    Like Jay didn't get busy on Renegade, but EM still the 2nd best mc in state. Royce the fifty-nineth>>>>>> emgermin.

    "Killed on Renegades with Jay" =/= Killed Jay on Renegades

    They both had hard verses
  • yahwehprofet
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    za'kiss wrote: »
    Em used to be nice. I liked his flow and style on Slim Shady LP and MMPL. Those are very good albums

    But well over a decade later, I just can't relate to what he's saying on his records, and he doesn't flow like he used to. All the multis and aggressive hollering is just exhausting on the listener to be honest.

    I'm been saying this on the IC for awhile now, but your comment is why people need to realize its NOT The same guy. MArshall Mathers is dead. Probably months after "when I'm gone". Notice his face/body are way different from his videos before And after. He was a talented lyricist and in his REAL catalogue we saw a man caught In an industry that basically USED him and real hip hop listeners saw the trans
  • smp4life
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  • Cleveland7venty6
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    Since im in a position to talk to these kids and they listen, i aint no politician but i kick it wit em a minute...
  • Cabana_Da_Don
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    Nasir Jones made way more valuable music.Ems best subject matter was when he was getting off drugs and when he was on drugs.
  • BobOblah
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    Renegade was a good feature, but I really don't think anyone would be talkin bout "ooh he murdered Hov" if Nas didn't say it
  • Stew
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    Nasir Jones made way more valuable music.Ems best subject matter was when he was getting off drugs and when he was on drugs.

    What was the in between?
  • _Goldie_
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    Top 10? yea Goat? nah
  • 5 Grand
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    Eminem had the machine behind him. I've been a Hip Hopper since day one and the only other person that got as much media hype was 50 Cent.

    If you take the machine away, yeah, Eminem was an outstanding lyricist but let's be honest with each other, the quality of his music and replay value leaves a lot to be desired.

    If you take record sales and skin color away from the conversation, he doesn't make the top 10.