Best non-QB player in the NFL?
fightforolddc
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Who yall got? Not necessarily the most valuable, but the guy with most overall game.
Best non-QB player in the NFL? 34 votes
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Odell Beckham Jr.I would actually say a tie between ODB and Gronk.
I feel like Beckham is one of the best combinations of skills I've ever seen at the WR position. He's not tall but he can catch jump ? , 4.3 speed, great route runner, elusive after the catch and has the best hands in the league.
And Gronk is just like no player I've ever seen. -
J.J. WattWatt, Von Miller, Luke
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J.J. WattPretty easy
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J.J. WattIts clearly jj watt he has won 3 dpoy for a reason
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En-Fuego22 wrote: »Its clearly jj watt he has won 3 dpoy for a reason
Last year Kuchley should of won. -
Antonio BrownHe's amazing
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J.J. WattWatt. Led the league in sacks, gets turnovers, and scored TDs on D and and O.
You can't beat that ? . -
Odell Beckham Jr.Aaron Donald actually graded out higher last year than J.J. Watt
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-aaron-donald-just-broke-j-j-watts-all-time-grade-record-and-should-be-dpoy/
I think Gronk is more dominant than Watt in that he is the best at his position at pretty much every skill.
"Key stat: Gronk led all NFL TEs in yards, yards per reception, touchdowns, yards after the catch, receiving grade, and blocking grade." -
J.J. Wattfightforolddc wrote: »Aaron Donald actually graded out higher last year than J.J. Watt
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-aaron-donald-just-broke-j-j-watts-all-time-grade-record-and-should-be-dpoy/
I think Gronk is more dominant than Watt in that he is the best at his position at pretty much every skill.
"Key stat: Gronk led all NFL TEs in yards, yards per reception, touchdowns, yards after the catch, receiving grade, and blocking grade."
Gronk is the best at his position and Watt is the best player on defense -
J.J. WattJJ is the best...Odell is my ? though...if anyone in the NFL was my spirit animal it's be that muh ? right there. The epitome of not Givin a ? ...dancing in the end zone...head butting cornerbacks...aahhhhh...so refreshing
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Odell Beckham Jr.I think it'll be seen this year that it's OBJ. He has no weaknesses at all. The one that he had slightly going into his 2nd year was getting off the jam at the line, he refined it in that year. I think going into this season in his 3rd year of this variation of the WCO and having more help at receiver, he's gonna do crazy things.
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J.J. WattPuts your bias to the side Giants fans damn
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J.J. WattOBJ isn't even hands down the best receiver
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Odell Beckham Jr.Not being biased, I just believe he's that great. My vote is more so for the now and upcoming season, not where everybody left off last year. I expect him to be the best player in the league. His name wouldn't be on this list if he wasn't a legitimate option. You acting like the ? way outta the realm of possibility.
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J.J. WattJJ Watt easily
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J.J. Wattits....JOHN B wrote: »OBJ isn't even hands down the best receiver
It's very debatable. He missed over 5 games and still up there in every category. -
J.J. WattShizlansky wrote: »its....JOHN B wrote: »OBJ isn't even hands down the best receiver
It's very debatable. He missed over 5 games and still up there in every category.
It is debatable but they are still being biased when he probably isn't even top 3 in the conversation I wouldn't even put him top 5 -
J.J. Watt5 WRs better than ODB?
Really ?
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J.J. WattNo you idiot, non qb
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J.J. WattWatt
Miller
Luke
Brown
Gronk
Peterson
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Odell Beckham Jr.OBJ is a better player than Peterson.
Peterson is a great runner but to be honest there's at least two other backs I'd rather have on my squad. He's not a complete player, OBJ is a complete wideout. -
J.J. Wattfightforolddc wrote: »OBJ is a better player than Peterson.
Peterson is a great runner but to be honest there's at least two other backs I'd rather have on my squad. He's not a complete player, OBJ is a complete wideout.
Debatable but fine, either way everyone should be voting for Watt -
J.J. Wattits....JOHN B wrote: »fightforolddc wrote: »OBJ is a better player than Peterson.
Peterson is a great runner but to be honest there's at least two other backs I'd rather have on my squad. He's not a complete player, OBJ is a complete wideout.
Debatable but fine, either way everyone should be voting for Watt
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J.J. WattIts not whether OBJ is that good, its the impact of his position.
There's a huge drop off from Watt to next best at his position
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How much of a drop off is there from OBJ to Brown to Hopkins to Julio???
Thats why im more inclined to take Watt, Donald, Miller, even throw in a Leveon Bell if he wasnt such a screw up.
WR is too crowded a position for 1 guy to be seen as best player OVERALL -
Its not whether OBJ is that good, its the impact of his position.
There's a huge drop off from Watt to next best at his position
vs.
How much of a drop off is there from OBJ to Brown to Hopkins to Julio???
Thats why im more inclined to take Watt, Donald, Miller, even throw in a Leveon Bell if he wasnt such a screw up.
WR is too crowded a position for 1 guy to be seen as best player OVERALL
This is how I judge too kinda. I got a debate with my friend about who was more dominant. Jordan or Jerry Rice, and chose Rice because of this. I may go With Gronk because no one dominates on a level near him at his position.