Ain't This Sh-t The Biggest Slap In The Face: Former Grand Wizard David Duke Will Debate At HBCU

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Former Ku Klux ? grand wizard David Duke has received enough support for his Senate campaign in Louisiana to be included in a televised debate. The debate is scheduled to take place on Nov. 2 at New Orleans' Dillard University, a historically black college, where students say they are shocked and planning to respond.

Duke, who made waves early in the presidential race over his support for Donald Trump and later announced his run for Senate, has polled high enough to qualify for the Nov. 2 debate with race frontrunners John Kennedy, a Republican, and Foster Campbell, a Democrat, according to an ABC News report.

The university, which agreed to host the debate before Duke qualified, has said it is contractually obligated to keep the event scheduled. On Monday, Dillard student leader Joseph Caldwell said there are plans to respond to the fact that an internationally known racist and white nationalist will get a speaking platform at an institution that has provided higher education opportunities predominantly to African-Americans in the Deep South since the end of slavery.

"David Duke is unacceptable and he's not welcome here," Caldwell, a 20-year-old sophomore and vice president of Dillard's Student Government Association, said in a phone interview.

"We are going to look at that as a student body and we're probably going to do something about it," he said.



Caldwell, an urban studies and human policy major, said the announcement shocked many students over the weekend. University officials did not meet with student body leaders before Dillard agreed in September to allow the debate to take place in George's Auditorium, part of the professional schools and sciences building.

David Grubb, a Dillard spokesman, said university President Walter Kimbrough and the board of trustees learned WVUE-TV had invited Duke to participate in the event on Thursday. While officials are in ongoing conversations about Duke's participation, pulling out of the event has not been part of those discussions, Grubb said in a phone interview Monday.

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"It was a shock to us, just like it was to anyone else," Grubb said. With the coronation of Mister and Miss Dillard on Saturday and Founders Day convocation on Sunday, the university simply had no time to meet with student government leaders about Duke, Grubb said.

Later on Monday, Grubb said Roland Bullard, Dillard's vice president for student success, met with SGA executive board members to clear the air about the upcoming debate. The spokesman said students are "aware and clear" on the university's position about Duke.

"Most importantly, we encourage them to make sure they get out and vote on Election Day," Grubb said in a phone interview.

In a statement released Saturday, Dillard ensured that it would work with the station to keep the event secure and professional. It also said Dillard "does not endorse the candidacy of any of the candidates who will appear at the debate."

Duke has expressed his excitement at the invitation to join the debate. But the 66-year-old former KKK leader has reportedly expressed his concern over safety. "Dillard is pretty supportive of Black Lives Matter, and I've been pretty critical of them," Duke told theAcadiana Advocate on Oct. 20.

Grubb said Duke may have been referring to a Sept. 20 event Dillard held with conservative writer Rick Lowry, who told a room full of black students that he disagreed with Black Lives Matter and there was no incident.

"Issues about safety are unfounded," the spokesman said.

Campbell, the Democratic Senate candidate, told ABC News it was "unfortunate" that WVUE-TV was allowing Duke to participate.

"His destructive rhetoric is a distraction from this campaign, which is about our future, not our past," Campbell said.

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Duke, who ran unsuccessfully for the Democratic and Republican presidential nominations in 1988 and 1992, has also failed in runs for the Louisiana state Senate and governorship, U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. Duke was elected to the Louisiana House of Representatives in 1989 and served until 1992. He renounced his membership with the KKK in the 1970s, but has been known for espousing anti-immigrant and anti-Semitic viewpoints since then.

In March, he denied ever officially endorsing Trump's candidacy, but said he agrees with the real estate mogul's call for draconian immigration policy proposals that would allow the U.S. to remain Eurocentric in population and policy.

Founded in 1869, just a few years after the abolition of U.S. slavery, Dillard became a premiere Christian institution of higher learning in the 20th century and has the designation of being a historical black college or university, or an HBCU. Dillard enrolled 1,185 students in 2014, 90% of whom were black.

Should Duke get to debate on campus, Dillard students aren't going to start a riot, Chadrick Hudson, the past SGA president who graduated from the New Orleans university last spring, said in a phone interview.

"I know my student body," Hudson said Monday. "They're going to carry themselves with intelligence. But I think it's going to get tense."

Dillard sent an email to the student body and to alumni over the weekend to acknowledge the concern among students, Hudson said.

"If I was still SGA president, I would have pushed for the debate to be hosted off-campus," Hudson said in the phone interview. "We could have had shuttles for students to actually go to the debate."

Given that student leaders were not initially consulted before Dillard agreed to host the debate, Hudson questioned whether officials had students in mind at all.

"I really kind of feel as though they're not looking at it beyond the publicity," he said.

WVUE-TV's invitation to Duke is "disrespectful and distasteful," Caldwell, the current SGA vice president, said over the phone.

"I can care less what David Duke has to say," Caldwell said. "He's racist. He endorses Donald Trump. As a student body, we just have to rally together. This is our chance to make our mark."
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
  • JokerzWyld
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    In b4 freedom of speech.
  • jono
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  • AP21
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    Dillard used to have dem biddies
  • kzzl
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    Damn a contract. Should of dropped that tv station for inviting him or not televised it at all. The KKK are a domestic terrorist group, our people should have zero tolerance for them across the board. Active, former, or affiliate.

    Debate can be nothing but a damn bullshitting contest, anyway.They could have his ass arguing in favor of black empowerment and all he has to do is be the most convincing liar. Intellectually my foot, I don't know what yall get outta that.
  • gns
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    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
    jono wrote: »
    Debate him.

    ? him
    Debate a klansman for what? To prove to him ? aint dumb
  • The Lonious Monk
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    gns wrote: »
    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
    jono wrote: »
    Debate him.

    ? him
    Debate a klansman for what? To prove to him ? aint dumb

    To prove to him and everyone like him that they are dumb.

    We should be taking every opportunity we can to beat people like him any way we can. Why run from such an opportunity.
  • zzombie
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    gns wrote: »
    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
    jono wrote: »
    Debate him.

    ? him
    Debate a klansman for what? To prove to him ? aint dumb

    To prove to him and everyone like him that they are dumb.

    We should be taking every opportunity we can to beat people like him any way we can. Why run from such an opportunity.

    Yeah you have a point but... since his ideas have long since been proven to be ? I don't see the point in rehashing the debate and over and over again
  • rapmusic
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    Why are people so dumb? Cmon man smh.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
    jono wrote: »
    Debate him.

    ? him
    Debate a klansman for what? To prove to him ? aint dumb

    To prove to him and everyone like him that they are dumb.

    We should be taking every opportunity we can to beat people like him any way we can. Why run from such an opportunity.

    Yeah you have a point but... since his ideas have long since been proven to be ? I don't see the point in rehashing the debate and over and over again

    True, but nothing wrong with beating a dead racist horse.
  • Stiff
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    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?

    He's not coming to debate any of them...it's a senate election debate that just happens to be at this particular university. They likely wouldn't get a chance to engage him at all
  • xxCivicxx
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    I would actually love to debate David Duke

    He's actually pretty knowledgeable about certain topics(black issues isn't one of them though)

    And like I said in the other thread, white people have always had complete access to hbcu's

    Most of them were started by white people
  • playboy buddy rose
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    they gon ? around and ? this cracka
  • D0wn
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    They knew exactly what they were doing choosing Dillard for the debate location. It's a big ass plantation. That was a symbolic gesture.

    Boom!
  • PapaDoc223
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    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?
    Because we should smack him up literally.
  • PapaDoc223
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    Do Jews debate neo nazis?
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Stiff wrote: »
    Why would it be a slap in the face? Why wouldn't black people want to smack someone like him down intellectually?

    He's not coming to debate any of them...it's a senate election debate that just happens to be at this particular university. They likely wouldn't get a chance to engage him at all

    Well I guess that's a little different, but makes it even more reasonable that he's able to come. If they hosting a debate, they can't just refuse to allow one of the candidates because of his beliefs.
  • thegreatunknown
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    Before I came into to this thread I was please don't let it be Dillard..and dammed if it wasn't Dillard..

    Yes I'm an alum...


    Edit: I texted a friend who's in the know..its a Senate Debate, Dillard is hosting and if you have at least 5% of polling you're in.
  • Crude_
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    I know most of yall might not be as familar with Louisiana politics because yall obviously arent from Louisiana.

    Duke was about a Buddy Roemer fumble away from winning governor of the state back in the early 1990s.

    Roemer went on to win that governor election in a runoff; however, Duke went into obscurity even going to another country for a little while somewhere in Europe I believe.

    Like Civic mentioned Duke is actually somewhat articulate on some things, but he's a hate monger and overt bigot. He's managed to polish himself enough to be somewhat tactful with his obvious bigotry.
  • thegreatunknown
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    They knew exactly what they were doing choosing Dillard for the debate location. It's a big ass plantation. That was a symbolic gesture.

    Its not a plantation, people say that because of the trees on the Avenue of the Oaks.
  • thegreatunknown
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    kzzl wrote: »
    Damn a contract. Should of dropped that tv station for inviting him or not televised it at all. The KKK are a domestic terrorist group, our people should have zero tolerance for them across the board. Active, former, or affiliate.

    Debate can be nothing but a damn bullshitting contest, anyway.They could have his ass arguing in favor of black empowerment and all he has to do is be the most convincing liar. Intellectually my foot, I don't know what yall get outta that.

    Yea, I agree. I'm calling the school tomorrow to demand that they decline hosting the debate..a couple other of my friends are doing the same...
  • rickmogul
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    1 st amendment rights allow him to speak. Southern blacks R so slave minded ( especially the older ones) that all they care about is making to the next day. Ask a ? this as an example.w hats up bruh? Him: Just trying to make it through the day. Got Dam shame. While other cultural groups think in decades and centuries. They deserve this for the simpleton minded mentality they possess.
  • G.Avant
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    rickmogul wrote: »
    1 st amendment rights allow him to speak. Southern blacks R so slave minded ( especially the older ones) that all they care about is making to the next day. Ask a ? this as an example.w hats up bruh? Him: Just trying to make it through the day. Got Dam shame. While other cultural groups think in decades and centuries. They deserve this for the simpleton minded mentality they possess.

    What does any of this have to do with the thread beyond the first sentence? Where u from?