DJ Clark Kent "For every one dope Pac bar I could give you 200 Jay and Big dope bars"
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »Getoboy might be a bigger Stan than Usmarine
You reached 5'6" little ? .? -
bless the child wrote: »That's that NY ? , New York ? swear bars is everything.
Umm....it kinda is.
Let me guess, shooting/scoring in basketball is also overrated too. -
playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about. -
playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
But Jay and big don't make u jump thru hoops to get what they are saying.... I mean if u do, then that says alot about u more than it does them ... LMAO @ papoose being the extreme opposite -
We're still waiting for those 200 bars.
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This is a trick statement since half of jays bars are bigs bars.
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playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Consonance seems like a lost art as well
"The penitentiary is packed with promise makers" -
still waiting of those 20 I mean 200 dope bars.
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Depends on what you're looking for. These interview ? is ? me off too, how you gon dickride the dickrider. Everything this ? say it's like "awwwwww" in the background, how you gon let this ? say that big and hov are the only ones that think about the songs they make. At some point somebody gotta be like c'mon bruh.
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Lol mothefuckers would say 2Pac wasn't as lyrical as Jay Z but the momment you bring Big L or Talib Kweli (or any of the guys that are better rappers) they like "been lyrical is the reason he ain't as big, jay z da goat, tidalgang!"
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bless the child wrote: »That's that NY ? , New York ? swear bars is everything.
Bars are everything. Fucknuts -
Louis Devinear wrote: »bless the child wrote: »That's that NY ? , New York ? swear bars is everything.
Bars are everything. Fucknuts
Bars are 50%
The beat is the other 50%
I don't care how dope your bars are, if your beats are wack I'm not listening. Word to Canibus. -
I like the way he worded that. Those bars wasn't that badLets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines.
"I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen" -
Only on the internet have I ever seen or heard people say jay, big and the like are more "complex" than pac.
If u really think that ur comprehension of language n poetry is subpar n ur fandom of this particular genre should be questioned. Saying something simple doesn't equate to stupidity and saying something eloquently or with complexity doesn't equate to intelligence.
The way y'all write most of yall at least finished high school. U should know this.
That bar comment is way off base.
This is music. If u can't be entertained simply it's not entertaining. If u can't follow said artist for whatever reason that's really you and ur preferences not what they're saying. -
Listencloser wrote: »playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Consonance seems like a lost art as well
"The penitentiary is packed with promise makers"
so is assonance assonance is slant rhyming and if multi-syllable rhyming is literally not rhyming the consonant sounds
and just rhyming the vowel sound then pac is the goat. -
Stating that they had doper bars than Pac is stating the obvious. There are plenty of lyricists who have doper bars than Pac. Pac was never a "dope bar" rapper. Pac's greatest strength was his ability to create songs that connected w/ people emotionally.
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the cool kid wrote: »Listencloser wrote: »playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Consonance seems like a lost art as well
"The penitentiary is packed with promise makers"
so is assonance assonance is slant rhyming and if multi-syllable rhyming is literally not rhyming the consonant sounds
and just rhyming the vowel sound then pac is the goat.
@juelz21 you ain't foolin no one ? -
Some of you are acting like big and Jay were just rapping to be rapping. Bringing up content and songwriting like they didn't have that in most of their catalogs either
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Big and Jay are better emcees than Pac lol ? act like this is far fetched. Pac had a more diverse catalog of songs but he can't touch them two bar for bar rhyming.
Smack yourself for thinking "enemies and Hennessy" was some "oh ? he flowing" type of rhyming
For alot of Pac "fans" his legacy has become untouchable. For someone to say pac was an average rapper or not the GOAT is the same as saying ? that ballerina ass ? lol. His fans can't tell the difference. I think Pac was cool. He's just not as dope as a lot of his fans claim. But music is subjective so I guess... -
Cake, cake, cake, cake, cake.
Lyrical gawd. -
mr.october wrote: »Only on the internet have I ever seen or heard people say jay, big and the like are more "complex" than pac.
If u really think that ur comprehension of language n poetry is subpar n ur fandom of this particular genre should be questioned. Saying something simple doesn't equate to stupidity and saying something eloquently or with complexity doesn't equate to intelligence.
The way y'all write most of yall at least finished high school. U should know this.
That bar comment is way off base.
This is music. If u can't be entertained simply it's not entertaining. If u can't follow said artist for whatever reason that's really you and ur preferences not what they're saying.
I feel you bro
All you trying to say is does the IC have $20 you can borrow?? -
the cool kid wrote: »Listencloser wrote: »playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Consonance seems like a lost art as well
"The penitentiary is packed with promise makers"
so is assonance assonance is slant rhyming and if multi-syllable rhyming is literally not rhyming the consonant sounds
and just rhyming the vowel sound then pac is the goat.
Lol nice try. -
Pac the GOAT
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You got it bro.mr.october wrote: »Only on the internet have I ever seen or heard people say jay, big and the like are more "complex" than pac.
If u really think that ur comprehension of language n poetry is subpar n ur fandom of this particular genre should be questioned. Saying something simple doesn't equate to stupidity and saying something eloquently or with complexity doesn't equate to intelligence.
The way y'all write most of yall at least finished high school. U should know this.
That bar comment is way off base.
This is music. If u can't be entertained simply it's not entertaining. If u can't follow said artist for whatever reason that's really you and ur preferences not what they're saying.
I feel you bro
All you trying to say is does the IC have $20 you can borrow??
Truth is most the goats say simple ? . Any genre. If u pay attention to what big says u would realize he said simple ? . Jay, pac, nas etc say simple ? too. If u couldn't follow what he said it wouldn't be that dope. U wouldn't feel it my guy.
I think people have biases n make it seem like pac was wack for not always flowing the way they prefer as opposed to big n them n confuse words with technique. Content is misused too. But whatever I guess I said too much for you.
Run that bread homie. -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »the cool kid wrote: »Listencloser wrote: »playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.playmaker88 wrote: »Content > than Dope bars...
I ? with big and jay but.. ill take cake over icing.
The problem with this quote is Jay, ,Nas, and Biggie all had content and managed to be lyrical. Why is that such a hard concept for you Tupac diehards. Just because you have content is no excuse to be basic as ? .
You're being trivial though. You know what he meant when he mentioned content. All songs have content otherwise they wouldn't be a song. Pac had more depth in his message.
Pac was clearly a follower of Occam's Razor, the simplest way was the best way. It's about knowing your audience. He didn't need to be Papoose on every track. Pac's gift was his storytelling, ease of access and imagery.
Just because he doesn't make his audience jump through hoops to get his point across doesn't mean he wasn't lyrical.
Similies, metaphors, alliteration, parables, entendres etc are all facets of lyricism.
Lets not act like Jay was always hitting home runs with his lines. "I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I jack, I rob, I sin
Aww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
'Cept when I run base, I dodge the pen"
Listen to Shed So Many Tears and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Consonance seems like a lost art as well
"The penitentiary is packed with promise makers"
so is assonance assonance is slant rhyming and if multi-syllable rhyming is literally not rhyming the consonant sounds
and just rhyming the vowel sound then pac is the goat.
@juelz21 you ain't foolin no one ?
Lmaoooooo
