Why are 90's rappers so much more deeper then those of today?

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Ear2DaSt
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Why does it seem like rappers of today are less talking from a perspective of experience then those of the 90's?
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  • Built 4 cuban linx
    Built 4 cuban linx Members Posts: 12,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They're aren't, it's just that most of them are now indie. Blame the labels
  •  i ro ny
    i ro ny Members Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    Why does it seem like rappers of today are less talking from a perspective of experience then those of the 90's?


    perspective of experience?


    in the 90's, you couldnt just "be a rapper" who was talking a whole bunch of ? . your credentials had to be proven. there were "gatekeepers" to help ensure ? .

    now, a lot of new rappers are speaking from a perspective of experience...whether its something they've witnessed or been involved with...or in some extreme cases, a few are claiming outright that they are rapping strictly for entertainment purposes.

    the biggest difference now is that anybody "can rap" and make it available to the world with the click of a button and the general public doesnt really care about who writes what nor do they question the authenticity of the person speaking as long as the song is "hot".



  • supergangster
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    edited January 2017
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    Therefore at 90 so poverty higher. Nowadays people are not as poor now all contributions and stuff. You get money when you're not working. Even I who am an orphan, it has good because I live on welfare
  •  i ro ny
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    Therefore at 90 so poverty higher. Nowadays people are not as poor now all contributions and stuff. You get money when you're not working. Even I who am an orphan, it has good because I live on welfare

    dont mind my LOL reaction, fam.
  • Ear2DaSt
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    it's like backs then rappers were geniuses
  • SheerExcellence
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    edited January 2017
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    Therefore at 90 so poverty higher. Nowadays people are not as poor now all contributions and stuff. You get money when you're not working. Even I who am an orphan, it has good because I live on welfare
    If you are an orphan who was putting you in the oven? Was this your biological, adopted father, or the guy in st. Louis?
    And what about your sister that had a party with fifteen dudes and no one else. Was she blood sister or adopted sister, If adopted, did you smash?

  • just.might.b.ok
    just.might.b.ok Members Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well this thread wont make people mad, i'll tell you that.
    To answer the questions, rappers now say that back then you had to be dope to be respected and sell and now its "just do some catchy ? that bumps in the whip and say whatever ? thing you want" to make it big.
    Yet most of the dope rappers from the 90s are still active now and nobody is forcing nobody to check out whats hot on radio stations, i've never heard a complete lil fucky or yatchy or uzi song, i just listen to what i put on my phone.
  • SheerExcellence
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    Very easy
    1) way more rappers today than back then
    2) rap was fairly new mainstream wise so people had no blueprint to make money. There, ppl were just being creative and performing for the art of it.
    3) once big money started coming on, people eventually just started doing what would get the money, as is the case with most things in capitalist society


    If being a garbageman paid 100x more than being a lawyer or a doctor, lawyers and doctors would quit and start picking up garbage tomorrow


    Same as this, when posing and fronting like a gangster or drug dealer or whatever pays lots of money, ppl will start doing it.

  • anduin
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    Therefore at 90 so poverty higher. Nowadays people are not as poor now all contributions and stuff. You get money when you're not working. Even I who am an orphan, it has good because I live on welfare

    What the hell are you talking about?
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think the major corporations started looking for the stupidest person they could find regardless of talent.
  • bck145
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    Kids ain't experiencing ? like they used to....kids are hooked on the Internet and playing video games all damn day instead of living in the real world

    Then another bunch of these kids is high as ? on bars and purple and not remembering ? anyway
  • Stew
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    anduin wrote: »
    Therefore at 90 so poverty higher. Nowadays people are not as poor now all contributions and stuff. You get money when you're not working. Even I who am an orphan, it has good because I live on welfare

    What the hell are you talking about?

    ? had too many doo doo grits this morning.
  • J-GUTTA
    J-GUTTA Members Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Knowledge of self was what was popular.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    5th Percenters and Nation of Islam
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    Its coz hip hop has fallen under the same spell of laziness and fleetin' gratification that everything else has fallen under since the internet. These kids prefer interchangeable one hit wonders to actual good music.

    And to you 'there's good rap out there guys'. Nah man radio defines the genre, unfortunately, so I don't see an issue with TS' question
  • 5 Grand
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    You know, I can remember in the early 80s when rap first came out the elders said it wasn't music and, when you listen to Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Aretha Franklin, James Brown, you can definitely see what they were talking about.

    Now, we're the elders and we're saying the same thing that the elders were saying in the early 80s.

    What goes around comes around.
  • BackInWhite
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    Kb da kidnappa trash bro
  • thisisrich_23
    thisisrich_23 Members Posts: 4
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    There is a youtube channel that does debates on these types of things ya'll should check it outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHaO21iujHU
  • thisisrich_23
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    Let me know what yall think about this youtube channel thewave9283
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De1KFBoHG_I
  • natural born sinners
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    Very easy
    1) way more rappers today than back then
    2) rap was fairly new mainstream wise so people had no blueprint to make money. There, ppl were just being creative and performing for the art of it.
    3) once big money started coming on, people eventually just started doing what would get the money, as is the case with most things in capitalist society


    If being a garbageman paid 100x more than being a lawyer or a doctor, lawyers and doctors would quit and start picking up garbage tomorrow


    Same as this, when posing and fronting like a gangster or drug dealer or whatever pays lots of money, ppl will start doing it.

    I was tryinta explain this to my girl earlier, not about rap, but jobs n careers in general. How People usually enter a particular field with good intentions. Then they realize there are opportunities to feed they families better and be better off n go for it. They might struggle with the new position n change but eventually it comes down to money n math
  • natural born sinners
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    Rappers and athletes do it all the time. They come in n please a certain crowd or city and bow to always "keep it real" and never change. then the opportunity to make money that is too large to pass up comes in the picture n they make a "business decision". back in the early to mid 90's there wasn't a formula to imitate. Puffy, death row n russel gave ? the game plan n rap ain't been the same ever since.
  • qawshun
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    These rappers aren't held to a standard.
  • twenty2
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    bck145 wrote: »
    Kids ain't experiencing ? like they used to....kids are hooked on the Internet and playing video games all damn day instead of living in the real world

    Then another bunch of these kids is high as ? on bars and purple and not remembering ? anyway

    This.

    I was actually just thinkin about this this morning. Not only in terms of music, but in a general sense too.

    Kids seem to be "maturing" a little later than they used to. Look at most of the "intellectual" rappers we have now and their ages range from like 27-early 30s. Whereas in the past, cats was droppin "jewels" at a much younger age...19, 20, etc.

    I think what plays a huge part is, in the 90s you had a lot of kids "coming of age" a lot sooner due to absent parents, drug addicted parents, or whatnot. So it kinda forced them to get they ? together and fend for themselves early on. Now these kids are kinda afforded the luxury of 2-parent households or at least 2 people that co-parent sufficiently, or at the very least SOME people in their lives with a LITTLE bit of sense. So they can essentially "remain kids" a little longer. They have an entirely different set of experiences and it reflects in all parts of life and culture.

    Now with THESE druggie ass fools that they've become it'll be interesting to see of the cycle repeats...
  • king hassan
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    twenty2 wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Kids ain't experiencing ? like they used to....kids are hooked on the Internet and playing video games all damn day instead of living in the real world

    Then another bunch of these kids is high as ? on bars and purple and not remembering ? anyway

    This.

    I was actually just thinkin about this this morning. Not only in terms of music, but in a general sense too.

    Kids seem to be "maturing" a little later than they used to. Look at most of the "intellectual" rappers we have now and their ages range from like 27-early 30s. Whereas in the past, cats was droppin "jewels" at a much younger age...19, 20, etc.

    I think what plays a huge part is, in the 90s you had a lot of kids "coming of age" a lot sooner due to absent parents, drug addicted parents, or whatnot. So it kinda forced them to get they ? together and fend for themselves early on. Now these kids are kinda afforded the luxury of 2-parent households or at least 2 people that co-parent sufficiently, or at the very least SOME people in their lives with a LITTLE bit of sense. So they can essentially "remain kids" a little longer. They have an entirely different set of experiences and it reflects in all parts of life and culture.

    Now with THESE druggie ass fools that they've become it'll be interesting to see of the cycle repeats...

    And add the fact that a lot of these kids are coddled now and more spoiled. And if they only live with the mother, well the way they raise sons, there you go