Jay Z becomes first rapper inducted into the Song Writing Hall Of Fame
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Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition -
Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08 -
It's 20+ years of consistency, if you don't have 20+ years of consistency you can't get in... How hard is that to understand???
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Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em -
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Focal Point wrote: »
Shots getting thrown at Drake -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Jay lowkey been writing for your favorite rappers and UEONO.
Go listen to RD and see if you could ever write that ? back in 95, let alone freestyle it as he did.
For those who wanna make an argument about Pac and Cube... HOV been rapping since 89. Just didn't get put on until later.
And his lyrical content was always way better than his peers.
Let some people here tell it rappers writing for other rappers is a new phenomenon lol -
Focal Point wrote: »It's 20+ years of consistency, if you don't have 20+ years of consistency you can't get in... How hard is that to understand???
They don't hear u tho
Watch someone come in and say b..B.. But Krs-One.
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »Focal Point wrote: »It's 20+ years of consistency, if you don't have 20+ years of consistency you can't get in... How hard is that to understand???
They don't hear u tho
Watch someone come in and say b..B.. But Krs-One.
LMAO cuz on the radio this morning said Krs-One.
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Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ? -
Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ?
Consistency ? do you speak it!!!? -
Focal Point wrote: »It's 20+ years of consistency, if you don't have 20+ years of consistency you can't get in... How hard is that to understand???
I don't think longevity has anything to do with it. There people like Buddy Holly and Sam Cooke in, who had short careers. I think it's more impact and the quality of the music that they look at. -
Snoop been rapping for 20 years, Cube been rapping for 20 years.. where they any good??
? no.
Ice cube was consistent with MUSIC from 88-92. And then he went the Hollywood route. He came back with the war and peaces in 98-01 with no one giving two ? about, and rode the wave of Up in smoke tour and Dre's revival. (See chin check etc)
Then he disappeared again and mainstream music didn't give a ? about cube. Which is why he started doing songs with lil jon was big at the time.
Then he disappeared again.
Cube has NOT been consistent. It's not an argument
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That straight outta compton movie done made so many people all of a sudden jump on that ? nuts. Where the hell was all this cube stans 3 years ago?
It's SONGWRITING. Jay being as versatile as he is got him in there. There's a reason why he's had so many number one albums. When you can range from making songs like dead presidents to hard knock life to big ? to where I'm from, Empire State of mind etc. You have that much versatility in your catalog then.You deserve to be in. Who cares whose first, he's not going to be the last that gets put in there. I'm sure the other legends y'all crying about would get in too. Put down the straight outta compton blu ray and cut the ? . -
The only people that have negative ? to say itt, are clown ass ? and white boys that have a history of being incompetent, incoherent ? .
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Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ?
Bruh yo simple ass gotta be slow or something NOBODY not even cube has had the success,versatility, consistency, and cross over appeal in rap for a 20+ year stretch Jay could drop a platinum album today of high quality after being in the game 20 plus years who else can say they can do that or could do that now??? So no fool you stand incorrect becuz Cube wasn't consistent over 20 years he didn't have the versatility in his song writing over 20 years he ain't have cross over success in music for 20 years and he didn't have the same success over 20 years and by 20th year in the game his current impact in the writing of songs wasn't what it once was ppl still 20 years in stop what they doing to hear a new Hov verse so how you come up shorter in all the criterias it would take to get in first but deserve to get in first??? Foh -
Big ups to 1 of the GOATS...
"...The youth I used to be, soon to see a mill'in
No more Big Willie, my game has grown
Prefer you call me William..."
Can I Live
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Im outnumbered so it's like beating a dead horse
Yall think it's hating I think it's giving a realistic level headed perspective.
Naw bruh when you start asking what songs has Jay wrote over years where he deserves to be in it becomes either hating or lack of knowledge at that point especially when your example is song cry I mean you DO realize they look at much more then just your singles right??? And they also judge it off of much more then who has the most heartfelt introspective story telling lyrics.... I mean he just got a platinum plaque for I got the keys and he been in this game doing that forever now.... So hate or lack of knowledge I'll let you call it
Don't even waste your time on responding to that clown he ? posts 5 year old videos of KB Da Kidnappa like the ? just was out yesterday. Ear2DaShitty Music's opinion is trash in the IC. -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Focal Point wrote: »It's 20+ years of consistency, if you don't have 20+ years of consistency you can't get in... How hard is that to understand???
I don't think longevity has anything to do with it. There people like Buddy Holly and Sam Cooke in, who had short careers. I think it's more impact and the quality of the music that they look at.
I'm just going by what was said in the blurb. Anything else I can't call -
Real talk this done bigger than rap ? . This should be be praised
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Pac should b in there
I don't understand why this got so many nosigns. We aren't talking about lyricism. We're talking about song writing. You trying to tell me Pac doesn't have well written songs in his catalog? -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ?
Consistency ? do you speak it!!!?
Obviously, you don't because cube drop Westside connection in 96 -
Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ?
Bruh yo simple ass gotta be slow or something NOBODY not even cube has had the success,versatility, consistency, and cross over appeal in rap for a 20+ year stretch Jay could drop a platinum album today of high quality after being in the game 20 plus years who else can say they can do that or could do that now??? So no fool you stand incorrect becuz Cube wasn't consistent over 20 years he didn't have the versatility in his song writing over 20 years he ain't have cross over success in music for 20 years and he didn't have the same success over 20 years and by 20 years his in the game his current impact in the writing songs wasn't what if once was ppl still 20 years in stop what they doing to hear a new Hov verse so how you come up shorter in all the criterias it would take to get in first but deserve to get in first??? Foh
? , you don't even understand what the songwriter hall of fame is about. You posted about one criteria and ran with it. You don't even know the other artists that's in the songwriter hall of fame. You just on jayz nuts and not being objective -
Congrats to jay but it's like a slap in the face for him to be the first cube nas pac all great writers in hip hop
It's for writers who been doing it for 20 years and it's for song writers not who's the best rapper or who impact is bigger impact.... Jay still getting plaques in 2017 for music he wrote in 2016 how is it a slap in the face
Y'all take ? wrong. I'm saying it should have been other hip hop artist in before him because they were here before him. I'm not even hating on jayz. It's like that don't want to acknowledge artist before him
They haven't proven to be better song writers over the same stretch of time.... It's like comparing Curry hot years of excellence to a player that was great for 20 years... No other rapper has had this kinda run of writing songs that still matter to the public both fans of that genre and outside of that genre so for that the only real choices that would make sense are him or Em
Ice cube '88 to '08 but he talked about Jews so that's why he didn't get get the first nod but I doubt he get in. I think nas is a better writer
I love cube but if you think ppl was paying attention to cube in 08 outside of real hip hop fans you are really lying to yourself especially if you think he was still crafting songs worth that kind of recognition
Raw footage went Gold in 08
Meanwhile Jay was still going multi plat with singles and album sells see the difference??? When you mix high quality song writing with success and crossing over to all genres while doing it for a longer stretch then anybody of 20 years which is the criteria you really only come down to 2 ppl Jay or Em
Why are you telling me that jay was more popular in 08 like I don't know. You made it seem like nobody in hip-hop had a 20 year run in which I point out ice cube had 20 years and still went gold. So i still stand correct that he wasn't the first it should have been cube first ?
Bruh yo simple ass gotta be slow or something NOBODY not even cube has had the success,versatility, consistency, and cross over appeal in rap for a 20+ year stretch Jay could drop a platinum album today of high quality after being in the game 20 plus years who else can say they can do that or could do that now??? So no fool you stand incorrect becuz Cube wasn't consistent over 20 years he didn't have the versatility in his song writing over 20 years he ain't have cross over success in music for 20 years and he didn't have the same success over 20 years and by 20 years his in the game his current impact in the writing songs wasn't what if once was ppl still 20 years in stop what they doing to hear a new Hov verse so how you come up shorter in all the criterias it would take to get in first but deserve to get in first??? Foh
? , you don't even understand what the songwriter hall of fame is about. You posted about one criteria and ran with it. You don't even know the other artists that's in the songwriter hall of fame. You just on jayz nuts and not being objective
Cube has had a great career, but he doesn't belong in over Jay. Neither does Em. The only argument that can be made, imo, is Nas. Cube has had large pockets of absence and music that hasn't resonated outside of the genre. Their musical careers and influence are not on the same level.
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »Im outnumbered so it's like beating a dead horse
Yall think it's hating I think it's giving a realistic level headed perspective.
Naw bruh when you start asking what songs has Jay wrote over years where he deserves to be in it becomes either hating or lack of knowledge at that point especially when your example is song cry I mean you DO realize they look at much more then just your singles right??? And they also judge it off of much more then who has the most heartfelt introspective story telling lyrics.... I mean he just got a platinum plaque for I got the keys and he been in this game doing that forever now.... So hate or lack of knowledge I'll let you call it
Don't even waste your time on responding to that clown he ? posts 5 year old videos of KB Da Kidnappa like the ? just was out yesterday. Ear2DaShitty Music's opinion is trash in the IC.
Whatever you Meek stan see I can't even clown meek music cuz nothing stands out
