Thai man kills baby on Facebook Live then takes own life

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A Thai man filmed himself killing his baby daughter on Facebook Live, before taking his own life, Thai police say.
The 21-year-old hanged his daughter, and then himself, at a deserted hotel in Phuket on Monday, reportedly after an argument with his wife.

Facebook sent condolences to the family for the "appalling" incident and said that the content had now been removed.
The company pledged a review of its processes after footage of a US killing stayed online for hours this month.
The footage of the Thai killing had also been available on video sharing website YouTube, but the company took it down after the BBC alerted it to its presence.

Relatives of the Thai man, Wuttisan Wongtalay, saw the distressing footage and alerted the police - but the authorities arrived too late to save him and his daughter.

In a statement, a Facebook spokesperson said: "This is an appalling incident and our hearts go out to the family of the victim. There is absolutely no place for content of this kind on Facebook and it has now been removed."

Reuters said two videos were posted, at 16:50 (09:50 GMT) and 16:57 on Monday, and were taken down at about 17:00 on Tuesday, roughly 24 hours later. Facebook has yet to confirm the times to the BBC.

Thailand's ministry of digital economy said it had contacted Facebook on Tuesday afternoon about removing the videos.
Ministry spokesman Somsak Khaosuwan told Reuters: "We will not be able to press charges against Facebook, because Facebook is the service provider and they acted according to their protocol when we sent our request. They co-operated very well."

YouTube said it had taken down the video within 15 minutes of being told of its presence by the BBC.
Its statement read: "YouTube has clear policies that outline what's acceptable to post and we quickly remove videos that break our rules when they're flagged."

Thai social media users reacted with anger to the footage, while offering condolences to the family of the girl, BBC Thai editor Nopporn Wong-Anan says.

Devastated relatives of the child, including the mother, picked up the body of the girl and her father from hospital on Tuesday.

Following the US killing, Facebook said it was "constantly exploring ways that new technologies can help us make sure Facebook is a safe environment".
"We prioritise reports with serious safety implications for our community, and are working on making that review process go even faster," blogged one of its executives last week.


This latest atrocity comes less than a fortnight after a US man bragged on Facebook Live about his murder of a 74-year-old man in Cleveland, having also posted a video of the killing to the social network.
The platform's chief, Mark Zuckerberg, subsequently acknowledged he had "a lot of work" to do after it emerged the murder clip had remained online for more than two hours despite Facebook having received complaints in the meantime.

Prior to that, Facebook Live broadcast the death of a Chicago man who was shot in the neck and head last June, and then in July a woman streamed the death of her boyfriend after he was shot by police in Minneapolis.
There have also been reports of sexual assaults, animal abuse and teenage suicide having been shown.
For its part, Facebook is trying to find ways for its review team - which employs thousands of people - to react to such content more quickly.

In addition, the firm has developed software to prevent such footage being reshared in full on its service at a later point.
And it is also exploring the use of artificial intelligence to automatically flag videos and photos that need to be reviewed rather than waiting for other users to report them.

What it hasn't discussed is the idea of scrapping Facebook Live altogether.
With Twitter and YouTube, among others, offering rival live-streaming products, doing so could put it at a disadvantage.
But as a result, there will inevitably be further outrages and criticism because Facebook Live's popularity makes it all but impossible for the firm to keep a human eye over each broadc
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  • Broddie
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    Facebook Live is a socipathic attention hoe's dream come true. Wonder how many more massacres will be broadcast before the year ends?
  • Kat
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    Wtf...Jesus.

    I don't think it's fair to target FB, because plenty of social media outlets have the same feature.
  • Broddie
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    Kat wrote: »
    Wtf...Jesus.

    I don't think it's fair to target FB, because plenty of social media outlets have the same feature.

    Yes and they have been around for years but unfortunately this is the only one that has attracted all these psychos to celebrate their psychoticness via their broadcasts.

    Maybe it's because Facebook has the largest userbase of all and by proxy is more likely to have a larger number of warped minded members but nevertheless. ? is becoming a pattern.
  • D. Morgan
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    that ? is about to be changed to "Facebook Delayed".

    They going to keep the feature somewhat but all the videos are going to have to start going through a content approval process.

    That is probably going to go in effect for all live video social media postings
  • Broddie
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    D. Morgan wrote: »
    that ? is about to be changed to "Facebook Delayed".

    They going to keep the feature somewhat but all the videos are going to have to start going through a content approval process.

    That is probably going to go in effect for all live video social media postings

    Somehow I don't see the youtube community taking that ? lightly.

    Typical facebook though. Always ruining ? for everybody else with their half baked swagger jacking.
  • D. Morgan
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    Broddie wrote: »
    D. Morgan wrote: »
    that ? is about to be changed to "Facebook Delayed".

    They going to keep the feature somewhat but all the videos are going to have to start going through a content approval process.

    That is probably going to go in effect for all live video social media postings

    Somehow I don't see the youtube community taking that ? lightly.

    Typical facebook though. Always ruining ? for everybody else with their half baked swagger jacking.

    But don't youtube got more rules and regulations in regards to what type of video content can be posted?

    Also I don't have any social media pages but isn't youtube much quicker than facebook in removing a video it deems as breaking its rules?

  • Broddie
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    D. Morgan wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    D. Morgan wrote: »
    that ? is about to be changed to "Facebook Delayed".

    They going to keep the feature somewhat but all the videos are going to have to start going through a content approval process.

    That is probably going to go in effect for all live video social media postings

    Somehow I don't see the youtube community taking that ? lightly.

    Typical facebook though. Always ruining ? for everybody else with their half baked swagger jacking.

    But don't youtube got more rules and regulations in regards to what type of video content can be posted?

    Also I don't have any social media pages but isn't youtube much quicker than facebook in removing a video it deems as breaking its rules?

    Considering that youtube's main hook is video content where as with facebook it's more supplementary I would think so, yeah.

  • TayGettem
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    Only way Live goes away is if media moguls complain of revenue loss during PPV's.

    Lol wtf live got to do with ppv
  • TayGettem
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    Idk why people blame Fb Live. Social media is a thing. Just like a gun is a thing ita neither good nor bad its all abt how its used. Even if u take live and social media away people still gonna commit dat, ? , steal, ? and do all types of other fckd up dumb ? we just wont see it from the comfort of our phones anymore thats all.
  • Trollio
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  • 7figz
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    True, but ? Facebook tho.

    They censor all the wrong ? , and add / take away all the wrong features.
  • TayGettem
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    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are
  • D. Morgan
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    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    facebook and others are just going to have to pay lobbyists just like the other industries do to BUY politicians to get what they want in the end like all the other billion dollar industries and corporations do.

  • Trillfate
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    The 21-year-old hanged his daughter, and then himself, at a deserted hotel in Phuket on Monday, reportedly after an argument with his wife.

    #bars ..he chose that place to ? himself on purpose
  • Trillfate
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    TayGettem wrote: »
    Only way Live goes away is if media moguls complain of revenue loss during PPV's.

    Lol wtf live got to do with ppv

    Bruh u didn't know they live stream fights and mma on social media?
  • TayGettem
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    Trillfate wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Only way Live goes away is if media moguls complain of revenue loss during PPV's.

    Lol wtf live got to do with ppv

    Bruh u didn't know they live stream fights and mma on social media?

    I don't even have a fb or any social media period. The i.c is the only place anyone can find me even then no one knows me personally
  • Copper
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    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings
  • Broddie
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    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.
  • VulcanRaven
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.

    If guns protect people then why is gun violence so high? Adding more guns made things worse. No other country has this problem. Not even Mexico or Itaq.
  • Broddie
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.

    If guns protect people then why is gun violence so high? Adding more guns made things worse. No other country has this problem. Not even Mexico or Itaq.

    On the flip side how come every gun carrying state has low crime while non carrying ones have high crime?

    Gun violence is high because some ? up people get access to guns in non carrying states. It does not mean that they do so because they get access to them by legal means. If the citizens of these states had access to them as well though they'd stand a fighting chance and I can't believe what you just typed about mexico L O ? L.
  • Copper
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.

    You could also protect your family a hell of a lot easier if said perpetrator didnt have access to a gun
  • Broddie
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    Copper wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.

    You could also protect your family a hell of a lot easier if said perpetrator didnt have access to a gun

    You can do even better if you had a gun at home though.

    Guns are not the problem. ? up people is the problem. Should psych evaluations for gun permits be reformed? Maybe but to say no guns for citizens at all is stupid. That's the type of ? that just invites martial law.
  • Copper
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    TayGettem wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    If we're going to attack facebook over deaths yet the gun industry remains unscathed we have a huge accountability issue

    Guns aint a issue either people are

    Guns make it possible to perpetrate mass killings

    Guns also make it possible for people to protect their families and communities. It's not that cut and dry.

    You could also protect your family a hell of a lot easier if said perpetrator didnt have access to a gun

    You can do even better if you had a gun at home though.

    Guns are not the problem. ? up people is the problem. Should psych evaluations for gun permits be reformed? Maybe but to say no guns for citizens at all is stupid. That's the type of ? that just invites martial law.

    Who said that?

    No or lax gun laws for everyone is worse than nobody having them.

    I've never seen a news report of a ? killing dozens of people with a knife at once