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I was raised "Black" whatever that means. I was in Jack N Jill and we'd celebrate Kwanzaa and Black History Month. All my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc are the same complexion as me, some a lil darker and some a lil lighter.
When I was younger I was told that we have Native American in our family, on both sides. As I got older I remember the elders telling me that during reconstruction it was better to be Black than Native American. It was illegal for Native Americans to own land or go to school. So if you WERE Native American it was better to claim to be mulatto or just light skinned.
In hindsight my grandmothers on both sides were light skinned.
Does anybody on this board have a similar story? Is anybody light skinned or redboned?
I never really considered myself "Native American" but I'm not an immigrant, nor were my parents or grandparents.
What does the term "Native American" mean?
I'm basically lightskined and my grandparents were born in America. Does that make me Native American, or ? ?
When I was younger I was told that we have Native American in our family, on both sides. As I got older I remember the elders telling me that during reconstruction it was better to be Black than Native American. It was illegal for Native Americans to own land or go to school. So if you WERE Native American it was better to claim to be mulatto or just light skinned.
In hindsight my grandmothers on both sides were light skinned.
Does anybody on this board have a similar story? Is anybody light skinned or redboned?
I never really considered myself "Native American" but I'm not an immigrant, nor were my parents or grandparents.
What does the term "Native American" mean?
I'm basically lightskined and my grandparents were born in America. Does that make me Native American, or ? ?
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Call men "redbones" brehs
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Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid -
I'm enrolled in a tribe too. I'm only an 8th though. My grandma is half and she was big into native art and stuff. Got family in Montana near the reservation. I get free health care as well at IHS facilities and I work for one of them.
Unfortunately my tribe isn't one that hands out dividends lol.
The natives up here in alaska had their deals with the government done much recently than tribes in the lower 48, so some of these tribes up here get oil money and pass it out to registered members quarterly.
Depending how much shares they have in the tribe some people in those tribes can make up to 15k a quarter just off the tribes dividends. -
I was raised "Black" whatever that means. I was in Jack N Jill and we'd celebrate Kwanzaa and Black History Month. All my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc are the same complexion as me, some a lil darker and some a lil lighter.
When I was younger I was told that we have Native American in our family, on both sides. As I got older I remember the elders telling me that during reconstruction it was better to be Black than Native American. It was illegal for Native Americans to own land or go to school. So if you WERE Native American it was better to claim to be mulatto or just light skinned.
In hindsight my grandmothers on both sides were light skinned.
Does anybody on this board have a similar story? Is anybody light skinned or redboned?
I never really considered myself "Native American" but I'm not an immigrant, nor were my parents or grandparents.
What does the term "Native American" mean?
I'm basically lightskined and my grandparents were born in America. Does that make me Native American, or ? ?
I've never heard that at all. I have Native on both sides of my family, however I'm a tribal member because of one side.
I've never heard that Natives weren't allowed to own land considering my grandmother owns land that was passed to her from her mother that was passed to her from her family. My wife's family also has Native blood. I've seen pictures of her great grandmother and my MIL told me her grandmother was 100% Native and also a land owner. She had to have been born in the late 1800's.
"Native American" is just a blanket name for the people that were here prior to the invasion of the Americas by Christopher Columbus. We all had our own names for ourselves, but we were here before all of the Euro-? fuckery started. -
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Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid
Same here. Our casinos ain't been doin too hot so we're not getting checks until next year, but we usually get them twice a year.
Like you I take pride in my heritage and often speak up for Natives on this board when a discussion about us comes up and also take offense at "? ". -
konceptjones wrote: »Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid
Same here. Our casinos ain't been doin too hot so we're not getting checks until next year, but we usually get them twice a year.
Like you I take pride in my heritage and often speak up for Natives on this board when a discussion about us comes up and also take offense at "? ".
There are a few that make bank but the majority of reservation casinos are in the middle of niwhere and the main clientel are people who live on the rez themselves.
My tribe has always had a casino my whole life but we just started getting quarterly checks from them striking oil about 10yrs back.
People who dont know natives in real life or never been to a reservation thing natives are swimming in cash.
In reality the poorest counties & highest unemployment % in the US are on reservation land. -
You ? real Indians or 5 dollar Indians who paid to get certified??
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konceptjones wrote: »Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid
Same here. Our casinos ain't been doin too hot so we're not getting checks until next year, but we usually get them twice a year.
Like you I take pride in my heritage and often speak up for Natives on this board when a discussion about us comes up and also take offense at "? ".
There are a few that make bank but the majority of reservation casinos are in the middle of niwhere and the main clientel are people who live on the rez themselves.
My tribe has always had a casino my whole life but we just started getting quarterly checks from them striking oil about 10yrs back.
People who dont know natives in real life or never been to a reservation thing natives are swimming in cash.
In reality the poorest counties & highest unemployment % in the US are on reservation land.
Yeah. It's pretty depressing visiting the res in Yuma. I used to drive out there two or three times a year to pick up the checks in person. That was when we first moved out here to AZ. My last trip there was in 2010, the novelty wore off and I saw first hand how NOTHING was changing there. No improvement, no nothing and our casinos are in Yuma, AZ and Winterhaven, CA. Basically the middle of nowhere out I-8 on the way to Cali from AZ. Yuma has no industry at all and it's only on the map because of the military base there.
The Navajo Nation is, IIRC, the poorest tribe in the country and also the largest. Whitey found yellow cake uranium on the res and came and mined the hell out of it with barely any money going to the tribe and leaving cancer in it's wake as the Navajo that helped mine it weren't given proper radiation suits to handle the ? whereas honkies made sure they were wearing 'em. Navajo workers carried yellow cake dust home on their clothes, contaminating everything and everyone in their immediate surroundings. The Navajo miners were typically paid less than minimum wage for their work but white workers enjoyed a good living from working those mines.
And this story has been repeated across many Native nations, just change the product to oil, copper, iron, etc and the results are the same.
We ain't swimming in cash, we swimming in misery.
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jetlifebih wrote: »You ? real Indians or 5 dollar Indians who paid to get certified??
I posted my tribal docs a couple of years ago. I'm native by blood. One day I'll gather up all the information on my lineage 'cause there's Native blood pretty much everywhere in my family tree. -
konceptjones wrote: »jetlifebih wrote: »You ? real Indians or 5 dollar Indians who paid to get certified??
I posted my tribal docs a couple of years ago. I'm native by blood. One day I'll gather up all the information on my lineage 'cause there's Native blood pretty much everywhere in my family tree.
He mean how u look -
Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid
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Go around the Rez and start asking if you're an ? or not and see how that works out.
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blackgod813 wrote: »konceptjones wrote: »jetlifebih wrote: »You ? real Indians or 5 dollar Indians who paid to get certified??
I posted my tribal docs a couple of years ago. I'm native by blood. One day I'll gather up all the information on my lineage 'cause there's Native blood pretty much everywhere in my family tree.
He mean how u look
Like I could be from Cuba, DR, Belize, Honduras, or something like that. Let my wife tell it the longer I grow my hair the more Native look. -
To everybody that says ? is disrespectful, don't let me go back and find a post of you using the word "? ".
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Im an enrolled member of a Native tribe.
I get free healthcare thru the tribe
I get quarterly checks of 1000-2500 from the tribe
Take great pride in my people
? is disrespectful... You sound stupid
How did y'all manage to get checks but black people don't get ? ? -
To everybody that says ? is disrespectful, don't let me go back and find a post of you using the word "? ".
I dont use ? in my everyday life.
And its not the same.
Black folks call eachother ? all the time. Natives dont call eachother injuns. -
ghostdog56 wrote: »
The checks come from the tribal govt
Not the US govt
Its our own people taking care of eachother. Not white people cuttin checks -
My family is from the Dominican Republic. Being Black is associated with slavery so almost everyone claims to be "Indio", even though the Taino Indians were basically wiped out by the time Columbus started bringing slaves to Hispaniola, and it's actually one of the reasons why he did. One time I got ? and called my mom out on this @ a gathering when she tried to tell someone our background.
Good times. -
ghostdog56 wrote: »
During colonization the English thought they were being crafty and diplomatic and they made a bunch of treaties. Indigenous groups then used these treaties as the basis for obtaining lands and rights.
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To everybody that says ? is disrespectful, don't let me go back and find a post of you using the word "? ".
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Ill put a gun in some ones mouth
Why must people dont undastand..racial slurs are dangerous im not black im me u call me ? u see the next.life sik of black men an women thinkin im a ? or share cultural -
blackgod813 wrote: »
Ill put a gun in some ones mouth
Why must people dont undastand..racial slurs are dangerous im not black im me u call me ? u see the next.life sik of black men an women thinkin im a ? or share cultural
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My family is from the Dominican Republic. Being Black is associated with slavery so almost everyone claims to be "Indio", even though the Taino Indians were basically wiped out by the time Columbus started bringing slaves to Hispaniola, and it's actually one of the reasons why he did. One time I got ? and called my mom out on this @ a gathering when she tried to tell someone our background.
Good times.
How come Dominicans Neva give my Haitian people's credit for helping them get out of slavery not once but twice?