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  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    texas409 wrote: »
    You've done 11. Ride it out to 20. You won't regret it. I just finished my 20 and I'm good now.

    Lil Wayne let you do 20 years in the military?

    @Michael_malice is a 5 star general in the young money militia
  • DarthRozay
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    grYmes wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    You've done 11. Ride it out to 20. You won't regret it. I just finished my 20 and I'm good now.

    You get some kinda benefits at 20 you don't get at 11? Another 9 years is a looooong time if his heart ain't fully into it

    Retirement pay and benefits (lifetime health insurance, etc) at 20. Even if I get out now I still get benefits from the VA and my GI Bill for school among other things. Obviously doing 20 gets you the most.

    9 years does feel like a long time but it’s never been about that. I could do the 9 years no problem, but this honestly just feels like I’m at a turning point in my life. Where I don’t think the military is something I want to continue to have overtake my life anymore.

    Yeah that was the other thing I had in mind. Haven't been in the military personally, but obviously it's much more "life consuming" than any other job. Other jobs you don't have worry about once you're clocked out, military you're basically surrounded by it damn near 24/7/365
  • NCswag
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  • Michael_Malice
    Michael_Malice Members Posts: 17,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    caddo man wrote: »
    I will say this. 20 years and you get free health for you and your fam for life.
    Then you get a retirement check at 20.
    So let say you get $2,250 a month for retirement.
    Health insurance is damn near $600 a month.
    We up to $2,850. Then you go to the VA and get 30%. Not sure what that is but lets say $500.

    Now you are getting over $3,000 in money and benefits for the rest of your life.

    If you can get that outside the military and more then you are making the right decision.
    I have a friend in Bama clocking about $4,000 a month and has a state job making $30 an hour. His VA claim is going through for bad knees, back and sleeping disorder. He will drop the ED if he needs it.

    Oh and ? that reserve ? . Just do the VA because the reserves you have to wait till age 60.

    All of this. That Healthcare and Dental is the key for me. I was at the VA last week and the Dr. was telling me that Tricare is such a bargain and won't change but that private Healthcare/insurance is about to get out of hand. My kids have been to the dental and Dr quite a few times this year and I gave barely paid anything. Nice retirement check covers my mortgage and more. Oh and I used my VA loan to get a house built. Nice disability check from the VA every month. I have a nice job and also get $1500 for OJT from the VA. I don't really have to work but I can't sit at home all day. And I'm about to get this Dodge Challenger ? Pack cause I'm about to go through a midlife crisis. And I'm not even 40 yet. Doing those 20 was the best decision I ever made. Just some thoughts man.
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was at 10yrs 6mos when I decided to give it up

    because of my last deployment I was stop-lossed for 18months

    the stop-loss ? was revealing cuz I had two other mofos in my same unit who were stop-lossed and they died while we were on deployment
    I would tell anybody at the midpoint who is thinking about getting out (especially if u are enlisted and don't have ur degree) to consider the following:

    VA compensation benefits can be equivalent or even more than full retirement benefits

    full retirement pay gets taxed, while VA payments do not

    if u do the full 20 u and ur fam will NOT get free healthcare, u will have to pay for Tricare

    and Tricare can either be good or bad.....depends on if u cool with using military doctors who sometimes practice on u.............also access is a big benefit or disadvantage to using Tricare

    if u want to work for the govt/military and receive the same stability, then civil service provides a lot of the same benefits

    if I had to do it again, I def would've taken the same path and got out even tho I did enjoy my time in the Army

    if u have health issues - get out
    if u aren't getting promoted fast enough - get out (and maybe get ur degree and consider going back in)
    if u have a nest egg to carry u for at least a year - get out
    if ur kids are young enough to appreciate u coming home everyday - get out
    if mentally u can't stand working for people locked into groupthink - get out



    otherwise if none of those situations apply, and u and the fam are happy............then another 10yrs ain't ?

    u should be deep enough in the game to where u can navigate easily and knock out the last yrs until retirement
  • Turfaholic
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.
  • Karl.
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    That stop-loss ? they do in the US is crazy.
  • MARIO_DRO
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    grYmes wrote: »
    Alright, so after about 11 years being in and with 7 months left in my contract.. I’m actually thinking if this is the time to go. Wifey kinda pushing for me to get out. A lot because of how things have gone and the threat of a war. Normally I’d go all in with the “it’ll be ok” response but these days I don’t blame her. Along with the fact that I’m kinda at a place where I want something new.

    The security of being in the military is what’s the major thing. The insurance, overall benefits kinda spoil you. Especially when you got a family. I got a couple of things in mind. Taking classes to become an insurance agent. Maybe get her uncle to help me out in becoming a cop in Fredricksberg, VA (not something I wanna do forever) while I go to school. It’s just a big ass step.

    Anyone been in this situation?

    BRUH... NEXT JULY, I HIT 20 YEARS AND ILL BE DONE...

    I SHARE THE SAME FEELINGS AS YOU ABOUT THE MILITARY.. ? IS GETTING WORST, ALL THESE WARS, THE CHANGES, JUST ALL THIS NONSENSE AINT COOL... ILL BE DONE WITH MY MASTERS IN NOVEMBER, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA ON WHAT I WANNA DO WHEN I GET OUT...

    THE MEDICAL, DENTAL, 1ST AND 15TH CHECKS SPOIL YOU.. BUT IM READY FOR A "REGULAR" LIFE... I JOINED ONE MONTH AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, SO ILL STILL BE IN MY 30'S WHEN IM DONE...
  • 5 Grand
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    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.
  • caddo man
    caddo man Members Posts: 22,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    The Navy has O-6 captains. A O-3 is LT and that take about 4-6 years. In the Navy if you make LCDR by 8 years or three tries. You are out.
  • caddo man
    caddo man Members Posts: 22,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have Reserve tricare and I dont use military doctors. Hell I cant! I have to go out in the economy. I regret getting caught up in high year tenure but in the end I cant do ? now but keep hustling this reserve check.

    Like I said man. I know mfers that make 6 figures regret not doing 20 years. I also know cats that make 20 dollars a hour that never look back. It is all about you and your situation.
    With that being said ? that Army ? . I have been trying to go officer for damn near 3 years. I could have went officer in the army yesterday. But I never looked at that the Army thinking ......................Yeah I might give that a try.
    Nah ? that.
    tenor.gif
    That's that BS! I go on missions with Army cats and they hit me with ? and I cant.

    Went to Korea and they wanted us to sleep outside on camping ? .
    Nah player!
    tenor.gif
    You better find me the closest hotel. And you better hurry up cause one phone call and we pulling chocks back to Peachtree street on the next plane. Find me at the BBQ spot eating Bulgogi!
  • rickmogul
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    @caddo man ...Got a buddy about 35 now who's Navy. Got injured in basic and had to leave. Got all his test done and was approved for 3K monthly as u stated. Raises, cost of living too I think. He had 2 undergo a series of tests and wait forever for approval but he got it.
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?
  • grYmes
    grYmes Members Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?

    You an awkward muthfucka you know that?















    I’m an E-5. Could be an E-6 by the end of the year. If I stay in realistically I could be an E-7 at 20.
  • CottonCitySlim
    CottonCitySlim Members Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    grYmes wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?

    You an awkward muthfucka you know that?















    I’m an E-5. Could be an E-6 by the end of the year. If I stay in realistically I could be an E-7 at 20.


    that's about 6k a month in retirement but.....only do what makes you happy. ? the army you already know how they do you

  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    grYmes wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?

    You an awkward muthfucka you know that?















    I’m an E-5. Could be an E-6 by the end of the year. If I stay in realistically I could be an E-7 at 20.



    OK, I just did a google search to figure out what that means.

    I say you should stay in for the full 20. I know the world is changing and there's a possibility of a conflict with North Korea. But retiring from the army is a very noble thing to do. You will command more respect if you stick it out. Also with all the benefits and the retirement package makes it worth it. You're halfway there. I say stick it out.
  • mc317
    mc317 Members Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    grYmes wrote: »
    Alright, so after about 11 years being in and with 7 months left in my contract.. I’m actually thinking if this is the time to go. Wifey kinda pushing for me to get out. A lot because of how things have gone and the threat of a war. Normally I’d go all in with the “it’ll be ok” response but these days I don’t blame her. Along with the fact that I’m kinda at a place where I want something new.

    The security of being in the military is what’s the major thing. The insurance, overall benefits kinda spoil you. Especially when you got a family. I got a couple of things in mind. Taking classes to become an insurance agent. Maybe get her uncle to help me out in becoming a cop in Fredricksberg, VA (not something I wanna do forever) while I go to school. It’s just a big ass step.

    Anyone been in this situation?

    Since you not retiring gather all medical records from your active time to take to VA Hospital when you get out so you can get some service connection disability money coming in for rest of your life tax free. 10% service connection$300 a month-100% Serv Connectin $3800 a month till you die.
  • aneed123
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    how many years left before full benefits? have u been deployed?
  • Huey_C
    Huey_C Members Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    grYmes wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?

    You an awkward muthfucka you know that?















    I’m an E-5. Could be an E-6 by the end of the year. If I stay in realistically I could be an E-7 at 20.



    OK, I just did a google search to figure out what that means.

    I say you should stay in for the full 20. I know the world is changing and there's a possibility of a conflict with North Korea. But retiring from the army is a very noble thing to do. You will command more respect if you stick it out. Also with all the benefits and the retirement package makes it worth it. You're halfway there. I say stick it out.

    With all due respect this isn't a topic you should comment on unless you've served in some capacity.
  • mc317
    mc317 Members Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mastery wrote: »
    mc317 wrote: »
    grYmes wrote: »
    Alright, so after about 11 years being in and with 7 months left in my contract.. I’m actually thinking if this is the time to go. Wifey kinda pushing for me to get out. A lot because of how things have gone and the threat of a war. Normally I’d go all in with the “it’ll be ok” response but these days I don’t blame her. Along with the fact that I’m kinda at a place where I want something new.

    The security of being in the military is what’s the major thing. The insurance, overall benefits kinda spoil you. Especially when you got a family. I got a couple of things in mind. Taking classes to become an insurance agent. Maybe get her uncle to help me out in becoming a cop in Fredricksberg, VA (not something I wanna do forever) while I go to school. It’s just a big ass step.

    Anyone been in this situation?

    Since you not retiring gather all medical records from your active time to take to VA Hospital when you get out so you can get some service connection disability money coming in for rest of your life tax free. 10% service connection$300 a month-100% Serv Connectin $3800 a month till you die.

    You say 100% like the VA just handing them ? out like candy haha

    Not at all was just giving him range in figures

    100% is very hard unless you got tbi, ptsd, schizophrenia
    ? mostly be getting 10% for tinnitis, 10% ? deformity for free viagra, 20% for bad knees, sleep apnea 40-70%. These are the most common I see
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    grYmes wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Huey_C wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Serious question;

    What is your rank?

    I've heard that it takes approximately 20 years to make it to Captain, and another 20 years to make it to General.

    How old are you? Have you been promoted? Realistically if you stick around for another 9 years what do you think your rank will be?

    Lol naw 5-7 years to get CPT, enlisted and commissioned are different. Based on the fact he even made this thread means he's enlisted.

    Whats the difference between enlisted and commissioned?

    Enlisted are privates, specialist, corporal, sergeants & Sergeant major.

    Commissioned are lieutenants, captains, majors & generals and ? .

    Commissioned calls the plays. Enlisted carries them out.

    Thanks

    T/S still didn't tell us his rank.

    That makes all the difference. If you're still a private get out. But if you're a sergeant you could stay for another 10 years and maybe get promoted to Captain.

    Captain looks really good on your resume.

    U don't know what your talking about, just stop

    I know I don't know what I'm talking about.

    What is the T/S rank?

    You an awkward muthfucka you know that?















    I’m an E-5. Could be an E-6 by the end of the year. If I stay in realistically I could be an E-7 at 20.

    no diss but SMH @ u being an E-5 in the Army after 11yrs

    how u figure u can make E-6 within 7mos unless u plan on re-enlisting? u got to have at least 2 yrs left in order to get promoted to E-6 (unless ? has changed)

    besides if u only a SGT after 11yrs then that tells me u ain't doing so good as far as being a Soldier(ie. u fat/injured/got an Art.15).......after all the deployments lately there is no excuse to be less than an E-6(p) by 10yrs in

    u need to get tf out and at least finish school..........then if u don't like civvie life while in school u will at least have an opportunity to come back in as an officer as long as u are still under the age limit

    do another 9 yrs as O1 thru O3 with enlisted bonus pay is way more beneficial than being an NCO struggling to not get QMPed

    how did u end up with 11yrs in and only made it to SGT?

    but then again the Army thrives on mofos being comfortable and not really having ambition