They Should Ban Unauthorized Remixes

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5 Grand
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I was just on youtube and I saw a song called Kings Of NY by Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane and Rakim. It looked interesting so I clicked it. Clearly this isn't a studio recording. Its a mix that some DJ made, but it doesn't sound good. The vocals don't match the beat. And sometimes the vocals are sped up or slowed down.

I wish people would leave the original songs alone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ANIFGsxQ4


Here's another one called Come Go With Me that is supposed to be Raekwon, Ghostface, Kool G Rap and Rakim, but they're just acapellas thrown together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6egM6kCUxRs



And if we're talking about producers that sample other people's music, the sampling laws say that you have to clear the sample with the copyright and publishing owner.

In other words, sampling is ok because you have to clear it. But these Youtube remixes are unauthorized and 9 times out of 10 they don't sound right.

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  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
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    I agree, said this when the mixtape game started to get heavy again in the early 00's. ? mad annoying.
  • JonnyRoccIT
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  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Okay

    This. >_>
  • OnnaThursday
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    Not really a remix but Biggie's verse on Three Bricks from Fishscale wasn't a bad addition and i know it was snatched from somewhere
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Not really a remix but Biggie's verse on Three Bricks from Fishscale wasn't a bad addition and i know it was snatched from somewhere

    I think it was left off of The Biggie Duets album
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not really a remix but Biggie's verse on Three Bricks from Fishscale wasn't a bad addition and i know it was snatched from somewhere

    I'm pretty sure it was a verse from Life After Death.

    However, they cleared that verse with the copyright/publishing owner.

    The premise for this thread is unauthorized remixes that some wannabe DJ made in his bedroom. The vocals are offbeat and the lyrics don't match the music.

    Three Bricks was professionally done, by professionals. I'm talking about amateur remixes. Remixes that aren't done properly that are floating around Youtube.

    They should make a law/rule that if you have an unauthorized remix and it sounds horrible you should have to pay a fee. That would filter out most of the garbage.
  • Soloman_The_Wise
    Soloman_The_Wise Members Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And I will respectfully disagree as a Lot of time the Unauthorized remix is better than the Authorized remix versions. A Great Example would be this atrocity...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5MMmEygsY
    But this Unauthorized version right here Slaps...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NzfgM1sd0
    There are more examples but this one stands out as far as great examples...
  • SheerExcellence
    SheerExcellence Members Posts: 6,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Who is the "they" that should do the banning?
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Who is the "they" that should do the banning?

    The RIAA, ASCAP and/or BMI
    And I will respectfully disagree as a Lot of time the Unauthorized remix is better than the Authorized remix versions. A Great Example would be this atrocity...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5MMmEygsY
    But this Unauthorized version right here Slaps...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NzfgM1sd0
    There are more examples but this one stands out as far as great examples...

    They both sound wack to me.

    And you just proved my point. The original Mackavelli series (1-9) >>> Until The End Of Time, Better Days, Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life
  • Soloman_The_Wise
    Soloman_The_Wise Members Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Who is the "they" that should do the banning?

    The RIAA, ASCAP and/or BMI
    And I will respectfully disagree as a Lot of time the Unauthorized remix is better than the Authorized remix versions. A Great Example would be this atrocity...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5MMmEygsY
    But this Unauthorized version right here Slaps...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NzfgM1sd0
    There are more examples but this one stands out as far as great examples...

    They both sound wack to me.

    And you just proved my point. The original Mackavelli series (1-9) >>> Until The End Of Time, Better Days, Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life

    Actually Original Makaveli series were all Unauthorized so you are contradicting yourself... As to my post the Akon mix Slaps even the OG is better than the Elton John mockery that is off beat and vocals speed changed to ride a trashbin beat ? Eminem cursed the world with we will have to just disagree...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7OQgDrh-R0
  • THE_R_
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    DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Who is the "they" that should do the banning?

    The RIAA, ASCAP and/or BMI
    And I will respectfully disagree as a Lot of time the Unauthorized remix is better than the Authorized remix versions. A Great Example would be this atrocity...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5MMmEygsY
    But this Unauthorized version right here Slaps...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NzfgM1sd0
    There are more examples but this one stands out as far as great examples...

    They both sound wack to me.

    And you just proved my point. The original Mackavelli series (1-9) >>> Until The End Of Time, Better Days, Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life

    Actually Original Makaveli series were all Unauthorized so you are contradicting yourself... As to my post the Akon mix Slaps even the OG is better than the Elton John mockery that is off beat and vocals speed changed to ride a trashbin beat ? Eminem cursed the world with we will have to just disagree...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7OQgDrh-R0

    @ 2:19 Pac explains what he was trying to do. So the original Makevelli series was authorized. He told the producers to hook it up later. So the Mavavelli series is the closest thing to the original. At least he met with those producers and had a relationship with them. Its not like they were total strangers.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukFFkKJNoA
  • Soloman_The_Wise
    Soloman_The_Wise Members Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Who is the "they" that should do the banning?

    The RIAA, ASCAP and/or BMI
    And I will respectfully disagree as a Lot of time the Unauthorized remix is better than the Authorized remix versions. A Great Example would be this atrocity...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5MMmEygsY
    But this Unauthorized version right here Slaps...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NzfgM1sd0
    There are more examples but this one stands out as far as great examples...

    They both sound wack to me.

    And you just proved my point. The original Mackavelli series (1-9) >>> Until The End Of Time, Better Days, Loyal To The Game & Pac's Life

    Actually Original Makaveli series were all Unauthorized so you are contradicting yourself... As to my post the Akon mix Slaps even the OG is better than the Elton John mockery that is off beat and vocals speed changed to ride a trashbin beat ? Eminem cursed the world with we will have to just disagree...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7OQgDrh-R0

    @ 2:19 Pac explains what he was trying to do. So the original Makevelli series was authorized. He told the producers to hook it up later. So the Mavavelli series is the closest thing to the original. At least he met with those producers and had a relationship with them. Its not like they were total strangers.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukFFkKJNoA

    There was a lot of tracks that were never able to get sample clearance and Afeni Fought to shut those tapes Down even though Daz who was one of Pac Producers was behind leaking those joints because he was Mad Suge Named Michel le' and Cold 187um heads of Deathrow in his absence. The battle was public and she than released R U Still Down as a Strike against Deathrow having control over all the Masters Pac recorded while signed to the label, it took years of Court Battles Daz was Sued by Pac's estate and all kinds of ? popped over those Makaveli Mix Tapes Daz Helped bless us with...
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Remember being a kid playing video games getting frustrated when the ? was hard and throwing the controller down talking about "they cheating!"?

    Who is "they" ? ?
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I remember back in the limewire days you'd always find songs that "featured" a mega list of cats like pac, big, 50, em, jay, cam, ye, game, etc. etc. and it would always be a blend of some ? . just random verses from each artist over the same beat. after a while you'd wise up and stop trying to download those songs
  • freshb651
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    LOL,you can't stop people from making their own mixes,that's literally the birth of the culture. and @DarthRozay

    Limewire had so much unreleased fire,my little cousin had Limewire he used to find so many mixtape songs and

    unreleased joints. Young Chris had this song called "Back around my old way" so raw and i can't find it I had it burned

    to disc but it got scratched.
  • Ear2DaSt
    Ear2DaSt Members Posts: 10,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like remixes if it sound dope

    so i disagree

    as long as you can tell it's bootleg

    not trying to pushed as authorized

    that's really for rappers that don't drop much

    a nice remix helps you have more material to listen to

    .....

    that first remix was pretty dope
  • unspoken_respect
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    Depends on how it sounds.

    This album was dope. All original beats and the voices were in sync. He put work in.
    common-nas-commonasm-mixtape.jpg
  • 5 Grand
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    freshb651 wrote: »
    LOL,you can't stop people from making their own mixes,that's literally the birth of the culture. and @DarthRozay

    Limewire had so much unreleased fire,my little cousin had Limewire he used to find so many mixtape songs and

    unreleased joints. Young Chris had this song called "Back around my old way" so raw and i can't find it I had it burned

    to disc but it got scratched.

    Yeah but if you've listened to the early tapes of Grandmaster Flash, Cold Crush, Treacherous 3, etc. They used to rap over other people's beats while the DJ mixed the records.

    But when it was time to make a studio recording they'd get a band to replay the original song rather than use two turntables and two copies of the record. They did it that way because it sounds professional.


    Rapper's Delight wouldn't have worked if it was a DJ mixing the records.
  • LUClEN
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    According to my dj friend an unauthorized remix is not a remix, it's a bootleg.
  • Rubato Garcia
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    Remember being a kid playing video games getting frustrated when the ? was hard and throwing the controller down talking about "they cheating!"?

    Who is "they" ? ?

    Lmao right

    Who is “they” and how do you suggest “they” enforce this ban?
  • AZTG
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    Could just not listen to things you dont like.
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Remember being a kid playing video games getting frustrated when the ? was hard and throwing the controller down talking about "they cheating!"?

    Who is "they" ? ?

    Lmao right

    Who is “they” and how do you suggest “they” enforce this ban?

    Well they remove certain songs for copyright issues but certain remixes go under the radar at Youtube.
    AZTG wrote: »
    Could just not listen to things you dont like.

    I hate it when I'm looking for something I like and a unauthorized/bootleg recording comes up so I click on it and its the vocals from one of the artists songs sped up or slowed down over a beat that doesn't match the lyrics or the bounce/rhythm of the beat.