Big daddy Kane or Jay Z? Higher on a GOAT list?

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Mvpbrodie93
Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
edited August 2010 in The Face Off Forum
There both in the top 7 IMO. But who deserves to be higher on a GOAT list?


Catologue-
Originality-
Concepts-
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Live Performance-
Poetic Value-
Body of Work-
Industry Impact-
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Battle Skills-


And overall the winner is.......
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  • brombonze
    brombonze Members Posts: 406 ✭
    edited August 2010
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    Kane and yes i'm biased. that's my all time favorite emcee bar none
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  • genocide_cutter
    genocide_cutter Members Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    I'm with big daddy kane
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  • Julius
    Julius Banned Users Posts: 216 ✭
    edited August 2010
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    Big Daddy Kane is better IMO
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  • t. webb
    t. webb Members Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Jay-Z....only because I didn't grow during that time period.....
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  • isayas
    isayas Confirm Email Posts: 2,972 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Kane, and I didn't even grow up in that time period.
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  • flushill401
    flushill401 Members Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Big Daddy Kane, yes big not little
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  • ChuckieInDaMurderAve
    ChuckieInDaMurderAve Members Posts: 1,787 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Kane, no questions, quite possibly in my top 5 list. But if there's a valid reason to say he shouldn't be in a top 5 is simple... he should have knocked all those AWFUL sucky R&B love songs he was so obsessed with.

    I mean I could never understand a single reason to listen to "To Be Your Man", "On the Move", "All of Me", "I'm Not Ashamed", "TLC", "Lover in You" or "Very Special"... He made one good love ballad and that was "The Day You're Mine", mostly because the lyrics were actually good as opposed to the same ol' boring love songs everybody else (including later Kane) did and does.
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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    t. webb wrote: »
    Jay-Z....only because I didn't grow during that time period.....
    I understand what your saying cause Kane is not my generation either but...
    That's no excuse. It's not like it's sports and you never saw the guy play, you can listen to the music and form your own decision.
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  • therealist_
    therealist_ Members Posts: 3,389 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    t. webb wrote: »
    Jay-Z....only because I didn't grow during that time period.....

    Yeah, i'm runnin with this ^^^
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  • Mrslim1
    Mrslim1 Members Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    I got go with JAY. Because of the era Kane really didnt get a chance to grow musically .
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  • therealist_
    therealist_ Members Posts: 3,389 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »
    I understand what your saying cause Kane is not my generation either but...
    That's no excuse. It's not like it's sports and you never saw the guy play, you can listen to the music and form your own decision.

    So your saying it doesn't play a part in his decision at all?
    Let me know, because i think that's a respectable answer..

    (plus i co-singed i'ma co-signer for it too, lol)
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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    therealist_ wrote: »
    So your saying it doesn't play a part in his decision at all?
    Let me know, because i think that's a respectable answer..

    (plus i co-singed i'ma co-signer for it too, lol)
    Naa I think jay but not because I was born in 92'
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  • Julius
    Julius Banned Users Posts: 216 ✭
    edited August 2010
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    I wish i grew up during that time period.Hip hop isnt like it used to be
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  • isayas
    isayas Confirm Email Posts: 2,972 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Hip Hop was like that at that time. Kane was just a raw spitter, and musically he was nice. Didn't y'all listen to 'Prince of Darkness'?
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  • Mrslim1
    Mrslim1 Members Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    isayas wrote: »
    Hip Hop was like that at that time. Kane was just a raw spitter, and musically he was nice. Didn't y'all listen to 'Prince of Darkness'?

    I think the newness of Hip Hop had alot to do with it . I am 33 and grew up during that time , but I think that 95-99 or so was the best years . I think the production caught up to the lyrics during those years . I also think that we are at the place now in Hip Hop where the same thing is kinda of happening with these new wave of artist . For along time in the last few years the production was ahead of the artistry and lyrics .
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  • t. webb
    t. webb Members Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »
    I understand what your saying cause Kane is not my generation either but...
    That's no excuse. It's not like it's sports and you never saw the guy play, you can listen to the music and form your own decision.

    I can respect that....where should I start then?
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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    t. webb wrote: »
    I can respect that....where should I start then?

    My brother in law put me on an album called "long live the Kane" you should listen. For the record I think jay>>>Kane, but that's after listening to both artists.
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  • great l
    great l Members Posts: 393
    edited August 2010
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    Jay anyday of the week.
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  • beats&rhymes
    beats&rhymes Members Posts: 195
    edited August 2010
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    No doubt in my mind it's Big Daddy Kane. Do people really rate Jay that High to compare him to Kane? I guess so.
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  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Members Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Jay-Z IMO, although i like King Asiatic a lot more.
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  • bull6599
    bull6599 Members Posts: 6,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Imma go w/ Jay, but either way BK stand the ? up!!!
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  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    edited August 2010
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    bull6599 wrote: »
    Imma go w/ Jay, but either way BK stand the ? up!!!

    ^...........
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  • coolc31
    coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    I go with Jay just for the simple fact Reasonable Doubt is my favorite album of all time, and I believe he put out a better body of work. I'm a fan of Kane, but I think I Get The Job Done derailed what could have been a great career. To me, he started catering to the ladies a little too much after that. I can't fault the brother because I love the ladies too, but as a fan of raw hip hop at that time, the music he made after It's A Big Daddy Thing didn't do it for me. Honestly, I can't see how anyone could pick Kane over Jay if we go by the t/s criteria. I can feel you liking Kane more, but he did provide a guideline to go by. This of course is just my take on it.
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  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Jay-z gets my vote. kane was that dude but come on now ya'll know jay got this. what has kane done that jay hasn't ?
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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    n.mcfly wrote: »
    Jay-z gets my vote. kane was that dude but come on now ya'll know jay got this. what has kane done that jay hasn't ?

    Drop back to back classics
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